55 monk swords

seekup41

seekup41

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2006

US

Guardians of Rin [GoR]

Mo/W

if some people could post their 55 monk swords they use and why, I would greatly appreciate it.

Megla Zero

Megla Zero

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

North Carolina

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Anything with an ~20% longer enchanted sword.... thats about all thats necessary. You can have the Furious mod too if you use Bonetti's.

wheel

wheel

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

Topeka, Kansas

Tyrian Fo Lyfe [word]

HoD Sword or Fiery Flame Spitter are optimal. You can pick up the 10% FFS very easily (read: cheap/quickly) and add a 19% enchant mod for cheap.

Tweecers

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2005

Mo/

Henge of Denravi Sword

+5 energy built in.

I put a 20% enchanting mod on it, and the other mod is up to you, if you play w secondary, use furious 10%.

The +5 energy can really open up doors pve wise, with armor selections not being based on mana anymore, because the HoD sword well makes up for it.

Tsunami Rain

Tsunami Rain

mmmmmmmm pie.

Join Date: Aug 2005

Honolulu, Hawaii

Favorable Winds [Gust]

Mo/

I use my FFS of Enchanting. Before getting that, I used to use a Furious Long Sword of Enchanting and if I wanted to look cool, a Furious Fell Blade of Enchanting (though it was 16%).

Reckless Abandon

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2006

Snap On U [snap]

E/Mo

Not to brag or anything.... well..... maybe it is :P

This is what I use. And yes, the price is confidential.

Megla Zero

Megla Zero

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

North Carolina

[OS]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Reckless Abandon
Not to brag or anything.... well..... maybe it is :P

This is what I use. And yes, the price is confidential.

Other than being "uber leet" aka insanely expensive... what purpose does that even have for a 55 monk (the sundering mod, I mean). Furious at least helps with generating adrenaline for Bonetti's...

Reckless Abandon

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2006

Snap On U [snap]

E/Mo

Yeah, I was looking for just a 20% mod but I could not find one. So I saw this and bought it. I'll admit the sundering is worthless, but still......

Tsunami Rain

Tsunami Rain

mmmmmmmm pie.

Join Date: Aug 2005

Honolulu, Hawaii

Favorable Winds [Gust]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Linsys
Sorry but what are you bragging about..

You set this item up WRONG first of all..

Second of all, this item can be obtained for like 50g or what ever 3 loadstones cost... + the item mods, which again your sundering mod is worthless and a waste of money..

The cesta is worth like 5k at the most... so you have an item worth about 31k... WOW "UBER 1337" I THINK NOT

Here is how it should look, my very OWN:

I agree...besides..why use sundering in the first place?..

Niosisw

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

Few Fallen Heros [FFH]

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tweecers
The +5 energy can really open up doors pve wise, with armor selections not being based on mana anymore, because the HoD sword well makes up for it. No...

The armor doesn't matter, you want the armor that gives you the most energy, the +5 en isn't that much when you have above 40....

AL doesn't matter when you have prot spirit! So why wouldn't you want the ascetics?

Murder In China

Murder In China

Banned

Join Date: Sep 2005

/B/Chan

Looking for one

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10% of Faster Skill recharge > +5 Energy.

Arawn

Arawn

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2005

Elsewhere.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Murder In China
10% of Faster Skill recharge > +5 Energy. I disagree.

Mana is far more useful than 10% recharge, because the +5 energy will save your butt far more often than the 10% recharge.

However, I would say go with the FFS when it comes to the budget factor.

Linsys

Linsys

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2005

Afk Mac N Cheeze Dun [LOOL]

Mo/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by Arawn
I disagree.

Mana is far more useful than 10% recharge, because the +5 energy will save your butt far more often than the 10% recharge.

However, I would say go with the FFS when it comes to the budget factor. It all depends, for 55 monking the FFS is better.. for general healing the HoD is better especially since i can put some sort of recharge item in my off hand spot..

Bloodied Blade

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

R/

I have to agree with Linsys on this one, 10% faster skill recharge > +5 en on a 55hp monk... if it was +10 energy, I would have to say skill recharge<+10e. Problem is mainly that on a 55hp monk, 5 energy isn't going to help you very much, whereas the 10% recharge will help you to (with a little luck) keep your defenses up vs most things.

baz777

baz777

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

South East England

Leader: Lady Hairy Armpits S[mell]

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Had the following:

1. IDS with 20% enchant mod (even out on my own I felt a bit silly with this after a while so sold it)
2. Fellblade with 20% enchant mod (I’m sure just the sight of this use to put the fear of God into those Griffs)


Now use:

FFS with 20% enchant mod

Lord Osi

Banned

Join Date: Jan 2006

Michigan

W/Mo

HoD sword with Furious 10/10 and with 20% is probably best or FFS with those 2 mods cuz of the skill recharge 10/10.

I myself use a Furious Chaos Axe of Enchanting. (Mainly for looks)
Max - req 8 (dosnt matter, Nor does any 15^50's
Furious 10/10
Enchanting 20%

Maxiemonster

Maxiemonster

There is no spoon.

Join Date: Jun 2005

Netherlands

Mo/

Do not argue about either the FFS or the HoD Sword being better, it's pointless, 90% of all people are too stupid to understand that 5 Energy doesn't add anything to a 55Hp Monk, unlike the 10% (or 15%) skill recharge.

And when it comes to the best item for a Protective Spirit build, it's the -20Hp Axe, followed by the 15% FFS, the 10% FFS and HoD Sword.

Tweecers

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2005

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Maxiemonster
Do not argue about either the FFS or the HoD Sword being better, it's pointless, 90% of all people are too stupid to understand that 5 Energy doesn't add anything to a 55Hp Monk, unlike the 10% (or 15%) skill recharge.

And when it comes to the best item for a Protective Spirit build, it's the -20Hp Axe, followed by the 15% FFS, the 10% FFS and HoD Sword. dont hate on a hod sword.

EDIT by chris_nin00:
Please keep it clean

Parn

Parn

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

Dfw Texas

[Cry] Cries of Frustration.

Mo/

I used the Crystalline skinned longsword
6-9 no Rq
+5 arm while casting
halves casting time 5%
Furious mod 8%
19% enchant.

or my Gold max Rod rq8 smite
halves Healing/divine 18%, +5 ene, light damage

Megla Zero

Megla Zero

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

North Carolina

[OS]

You do realize that the +5 arm does nothing... right?

Maxiemonster

Maxiemonster

There is no spoon.

Join Date: Jun 2005

Netherlands

Mo/

Tweecers, tell me what +5 Energy adds to a 55Hp build, then start saying I'm wrong.

.killjoy

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

Mo/Me

+5 energy does nothing when you have balths spirit and bonneties on..

Also any sword with +19% or 20% enchant works I personally put it on a FDS.

Parn

Parn

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

Dfw Texas

[Cry] Cries of Frustration.

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Megla Zero
You do realize that the +5 arm does nothing... right? you do realize it comes on the sword....right?
I just like the way it looks and the no Rq part, not like I'm planning on doing damage with it.

Megla Zero

Megla Zero

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

North Carolina

[OS]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Parn
you do realize it comes on the sword....right?
I just like the way it looks and the no Rq part, not like I'm planning on doing damage with it. Yea, I know... I just wasn't sure if you thought you were using the +5 for something

Thats actually a pretty good sword if you use a Riposte 55 build... since you get the 5% chance along with it being a sword.

Skuld

Skuld

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2005

Thousend Tigers Apund Ur Head [Ttgr]

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I use a purple brute sword with a 19% enchant and nothing else, because it looks cool it used to be 14%, i;m thinking i might have been better with a different sword putting the 19% on. my mesmer has various percentages she uses for IW and they get swapped around with my monk and ele for 55 hp-ing. i use that crystalline long sword and an 18% flamberge, and I may have a FDS with something on somewhere. i also am thinking about putting the spare 19% axe mod on a fiery flame spitter

Tweecers

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2005

Mo/

First of all, not all farmers use Mo/W, which imo is not the best 55 monk.

Imo the best 55 monk is Mo/Me.

Because while bonetti's blocks, it doesnt stop from being interuppted by spells or other things.. and its just 75% to melee...







I mean if you are talking about easy farming, then sure go ahead and bash hod, what do you farm Hydras?



In upper level farming, you need not your average spells to farm correctly, much diff strategy is incurred other then your basic


PS+HS.


At any given time farming, I incure PS+ HS+10 mana stance + 5-10 mana spell constantly.


meaning your 20 mana you use to farm hydras, I use 35-40 maybe even more dependin on the situation.

so yes that +5 mana that will be able to let me not have to save for a ps, when I could be attacking WILL save me time, + net me more in the long run speed wise.

At upper level farming, if you take on more of lets say 3-5 you have a high risk of failure at 55 hp, you must be constantly using different spells, stances etc.etc to compete with the different higher lvl monsters you are going to face.



I mean, do you just farm creatures that hit you physically? If so you are narrowminded.


Bonetti's really isnt going to do anything if they are casting spells on you, bonetti's wont help you for example.....


IDS farming.


With just Balth Spirit on you, and not your average "insert augory rock creature here name" skill setup, you actually use mana , and have to manage it wisely or else you will be waiting for that 10th mana to pop up just as PS dies.



My words speak of higher lvl, and not just... what hydra or troll farming?

Bash a hod sword for 55'ing if your into something that can be done while I am sleeping using just a -55 focus.



HoD sword has uses, it is just if you are biased like that, because you bought a FFS for like 50 gold, do not hate, and look beyond your casual farming.



How will things change if random kids keep hating on a good weapon that was removed from the game with reason* and flame on me because I dont do hydra runs like they do with their uber Mo/W.


Why more mana?

In a nutshell higher lvl monsters require more strategy/spells, meaning MORE mana cost, more spells to be cast, more chance for interupption, higher difficulty, better drops.



Sorry if I actually go outside of the box, terrrrrrribly sorry :\

Megla Zero

Megla Zero

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

North Carolina

[OS]

1) PS and HB
2) Bonetti's blocks projectile and melee, but only gives energy on melee misses
3) -50 cesta, not -55

Umm, also, no one said Mo/W was the superior farmer... just the Furious is the only real mod worth getting incase you DO end up using Mo/W since you'll charge Bonetti's faster.

Murder In China

Murder In China

Banned

Join Date: Sep 2005

/B/Chan

Looking for one

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tweecers
First of all, not all farmers use Mo/W, which imo is not the best 55 monk.

Imo the best 55 monk is Mo/Me.
Everyone is entitled to their own way to play a 55 monk.

Quote: Originally Posted by Tweecers Because while bonetti's blocks, it doesnt stop from being interuppted by spells or other things.. and its just 75% to melee... 75% blocking to melee and missle attacks.

Quote: Originally Posted by Tweecers I mean if you are talking about easy farming, then sure go ahead and bash hod, what do you farm Hydras? If you're going to farm hydras then a Mo/Me isn't the best. Having Balanced Stance from your Warrior secondary really helps.

Quote: Originally Posted by Tweecers In upper level farming, you need not your average spells to farm correctly, much diff strategy is incurred other then your basic In high-end farming you'll need to cast your spells at the right time, not randomly.

Quote: Originally Posted by Tweecers At any given time farming, I incure PS+ HS+10 mana stance + 5-10 mana spell constantly. What hell is a Mana Stance?

Quote: Originally Posted by Tweecers meaning your 20 mana you use to farm hydras, I use 35-40 maybe even more dependin on the situation. 8. Do Not Abuse the English Language

This is a message board, not a chat room. Secondly, Don't use "Leet-Speak" here. As such, you have all the time necessary to articulate your posts in a coherent matter. "You" is only two more letters than "u." It won't kill you to type them. Completely illegible posts are subject to moderation - and I can't guarantee their accuracy of 'translating' the author’s original message.

Additionally, when one punctuation works instead of 10 (example: ? instead of ?!?!), use one.

Quote: Originally Posted by Tweecers so yes that +5 mana that will be able to let me not have to save for a ps, when I could be attacking WILL save me time, + net me more in the long run speed wise. Most 55 monks don't spent nearly all their mana on one group they arggoed, that's just stupid. With Balthazar's spirit and Essence Bond, you shouldn't have energy trouble against 3-4 Hydras pounding you with spells. Also by the time you reach another group, your energy should be high enough for you to cast Protective Spirit and Healing Breeze and engage combact.

Quote: Originally Posted by Tweecers At upper level farming, if you take on more of lets say 3-5 you have a high risk of failure at 55 hp, you must be constantly using different spells, stances etc.etc to compete with the different higher lvl monsters you are going to face. Untrue, against 3-5 enemies you would only need to cast Healing Breeze and Protective Spirit everytime they flash. No other different spells, stance, and etc are needed.

Quote: Originally Posted by Tweecers
I mean, do you just farm creatures that hit you physically? If so you are narrowminded. So all the UW 55 monks are narrowminded?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tweecers
Bonetti's really isnt going to do anything if they are casting spells on you, bonetti's wont help you for example..... It does if there are melee monsters hitting you.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tweecers
IDS farming. ?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tweecers
With just Balth Spirit on you, and not your average "insert augory rock creature here name" skill setup, you actually use mana , and have to manage it wisely or else you will be waiting for that 10th mana to pop up just as PS dies. Untrue, if you have 3-5 monsters whacking you, you should have more than enough mana to cast Protective Spirit with just Balthazar's spirit alone (Natural energy regeneration anyone?).

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tweecers
Bash a hod sword for 55'ing if your into something that can be done while I am sleeping using just a -55 focus. Wha?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tweecers
How will things change if random kids keep hating on a good weapon that was removed from the game with reason* and flame on me because I dont do hydra runs like they do with their uber Mo/W. How is it good? It only provides 5 energy, nothing more. Plus it isn't even max.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tweecers
In a nutshell higher lvl monsters require more strategy/spells, meaning MORE mana cost, more spells to be cast, more chance for interupption, higher difficulty, better drops. Exactly what a Fiery Flame Spitter is good for. Faster Spell recharge of those you need to cast again in a short time or interruption of a vital spell.

chris_nin00

chris_nin00

Dun dun dun

Join Date: Aug 2005

Reddit Guild

R/

No flaming please. Thank you

My opinion on the HoD and the FFS...

HoD gives a free +5 energy with no requirement.
FFS gives a 10% or 15% in some cases skill recharge.

Now for a 55 monk, energy is abundant, at least for me, when it comes to farming. Therefore, the +5 energy is meaningless for a 55 Monk. So the winner for farming with a 55 monk in my opinion is the FFS, since the HoD gives no apparent, Darn I can't figure out the word

Monkalot

Monkalot

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Feb 2006

The Third Rock

Ultimate Genesis

Mo/

Now I know why these post are so important. Think of the money I could have saved by not buying an HOD. I take it that the FDS is the better sword for the U.W. than taking the HOD. If so it's back to farming (Low Level) to afford one of those. And yes, I am a rookie 55. But ya gotta start somewhere...

Tweecers

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2005

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Murder In China








Exactly what a Fiery Flame Spitter is good for. Faster Spell recharge of those you need to cast again in a short time or interruption of a vital spell. If you rely on 10% recharge, one in 10 sojs... or something you shouldnt be farming.


Yes once in a while a recharge on spellbreaker or soj would be nice, but is sure as hell 100% not required or at least that much more helpful towards a build.

You shouldnt be basing your farming around 10%.



I have tried the ffs... the results can hardly be seen, 10% is just too low...


natural energy management? maybe for lower lvl farming, higher lvl farming requires more -1 cumulative energy required enchantments thats all.


All in all, I have about 1 natural energy reg on a given run, so if you feel like waiting like forever for 1 mana to regenerate... alright.....

I dont rely on natural reg, it is not constant enough for me.

Again, your comments are very low lvl farming skewed, need to open your mind..


you actually quoted me saying 75% blocking melee, you added missles? meaning arrows?


What about the other 50% attacks in the game? or something that just about EVERY creature uses


what could it be?


oh wait, a spell!


By farming creatures that dont mindlessly whack you forever, you CANNOT rely on bonettis, what will it do? it will waste 8 adrenaline and not give you any mana when you git hit with a spell...

meaning if they dont physically hit you, does b. spirit work either?

NOPE.

I figure you will have +2 natural energy reg at this point ( mending/spirit)

that will get you killed in higher lvl farming areas like... guarenteed.


For newer farmers who do ONLY physical farming, which again is narrow minded.. (trolls/hydras*/griffons)

mana actually does matter in some builds that are skewed to beat HIGHER and harder farms.

that is why +5 mana in my opinion beats out a 1 in 10 chance to really kick on a spell that could actualy net you extra time/speed ( elites)


I do not see your argument saying hod sword sucks when your saying a fast casted soj will happen every time basically is your pro.


1 in 10... that is very very low odds for me.

+5 mana constantly is much better.

Am i the only one that doesnt do these newbie farms? I mean.. eh w/e


*Mantra of Resolve* anyone?

If you farm things that do not disrupt you, that is to me considered low, or extremley easy.

If you farm things that can, or maelstrom you, what is bonettis gonna do when you get interrupted on a ps for example? your dead... its simple

Example on a disrupting chop or blow thing *, its a physical attack, so even if you say, well bonetti's can block this. it still has a 1 in 4 chance to own your skill...

25% of failure is MUCH MUCH MUCH more potent then 10% of failure.

1 in 4 means even the best farmer will fail his spells a good ass portion of the time.


bonettis will not make you completely safe, and in the odds of probability, you have just as much a chance of blocking, then having lets say.. 4 hits hit in a row, including the disrupt you were trying to block.

it just isnt good enough for me... it will block attacks, but 25% will come through * physical disruption is what im talking about*

MoR will block anything based on mana removal, meaning more mana = you can cast " i boned ur mom last night" as much as you want, it aint gonna get disrupted, meaning you wont fail, meanign your monster will die, = loot anyone?


25% chance to get owned while using a so called "proection spell" when i say protection i mean for casting a spell towards physically disrupting monsters, is just tooooooo way to high for me.


or HB for example.. if you are doing a decent size mod, your dead....

My loot is bettter, my challenge is harder, but you can choose to farm whatever you want.


again, if you want to keep talking to me about troll farming which is what you basically are telling me you do, please talk to someone else, or try different farming locations pleaseeeeee


Edit* I saw you said the UW was profitable?


with ectos at ~ 5-6k now, and u finding on average 1 per run, which means you have to give the ecto to your partner, 50% to get 1 ecto every lets say... 30-45 minutes?

or if you say.. I dont need a partner! and spend a hour+ trying to get 1 ecto, well, if you think 5-6k an hour is good for farming...

I say you go farm elonas minotaurs for gold, you can do that easier, solo and make more money then farming the stupid UW for ectos.

Megla Zero

Megla Zero

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

North Carolina

[OS]

You're making the most assanine "argument" ever... its not even worth arguing. Stating that no one else uses Essence Bond... when, in fact, almost every 55 EVER uses it, just emphasizes how little you understand what people are saying. If you're that annoyed/worried about waiting for your energy to regen, waste a slot and throw in Blessed Signet. Tadaa, extra energy every, what is it, 5 seconds? No matter what you say, you're making an assanine argument that is based on nothing. The only time you should EVER be having any amount of trouble with energy, especially if you use Essence Bond and Balth's Spirit like you say, is when you're stuck going 1 on 1 against a monster...

chris_nin00

chris_nin00

Dun dun dun

Join Date: Aug 2005

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http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...d.php?t=108130

I hope that can make some sense to this thread.

Good post Megla.

Skuld

Skuld

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2005

Thousend Tigers Apund Ur Head [Ttgr]

A/

Foolish not to use essence bond..

Tweecers

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2005

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Megla Zero
You're making the most assanine "argument" ever... its not even worth arguing. Stating that no one else uses Essence Bond... when, in fact, almost every 55 EVER uses it, just emphasizes how little you understand what people are saying.
Who ever said I used essence bond? Please quote me saying that?


Megla you retard QUOTE where I said I used essence bond, your acting like a wrote a essay just on that skill.

I said i use other -1 cum enchantments you dumb 9 year old.

then you go on to flame ME for something I didnt even say? Werd shows ur intelligence.


You obviously still no NOTHING about 55'ing if you are that narrowminded

Blessed Signet? As if my skillbar is actually worthy of that skill, you have no idea how tight skillbars are farming.

I cant believe you would throw words into my mouth, I guess you think that ps + hb will work for any monster and you dont need any other skills!

why do the low lvl farmers do this to me ><

But then again you are simply refering to me as if I farm trolls or something, which is what I can almost 100% guarentee you do.

How about you leave the hard farming to the smarter people, and go kill some hydras for me.


To newbie players trying to bash me and know nothing of the farming I am doing, there is a reason you dont, because you cant understand the basis that a 55 monk actually uses skills other then ps + hb.

SO go back to augory and leave me alone.

Lourens

Lourens

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

I got a +5 energy PlaguaBorn Sword ^^

manitoba1073

manitoba1073

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

ManitobaShipyards Refit and Repair Station

(SFC)Star Fleet Command,(TDE)The Daggerfall elite,(SOoM)Secret order of Magi

actually the weapon u really want is a smite rod. skip the sword and FFS. cause u can get a collectors 20/20 smite rod. and still be able to do max damage with it alone. 20% enchant mods are ok but way over rated. with the 20% chance to recharge ur smite skills is far better. my 3 cents worth. and if u want one pm in game ill get u one at cost. IGN Tarn Vedre. u will change ur mind when using it.