Guildname change to expensive!

Silent Kitty

Silent Kitty

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

Netherlands

[TYW] "The Young World"

A/Me

Please make cape changing and guild name changing cheaper. A freakin' 2K to change the colour of the cape is doable, but way to expensive. I really like to re-name my guild, but I already have a hall. If I want to change the name now, I have to get myself a new hall as well, for a freakin' 20K totally.

Lex Talionis

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2005

in the real world away from virtual idiots

Wtf Is Guildwars [Duno]

Great idea that way everyone will change their guild name everyday for a cheap price + noone will know who's who. If you think a celestial sigil is expensive now, you're obviously new to the game. When this game first came out, sigils were going for 80k until they gradually dropped in price. So looking at it now 20k doesn't seem all that expensive. When you change your name, it's a new guild altogether. Money sinks exist for a reason So don't complain to anet asking them to make everything cheaper just cause you don't feel like shelling out the money. Especially for 20k ROFL You can make that easily using any cookie cutter farming build here on these forums.

Cymmina

Cymmina

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

Me/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by Silent Kitty
A freakin' 2K to change the colour of the cape is doable, but way to expensive.
You can't afford 2k? How often are you changing your capes?

Silent Kitty

Silent Kitty

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

Netherlands

[TYW] "The Young World"

A/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lex Talionis
Great idea that way everyone will change their guild name everyday for a cheap price + noone will know who's who. If you think a celestial sigil is expensive now, you're obviously new to the game. When this game first came out, sigils were going for 80k until they gradually dropped in price. So looking at it now 20k doesn't seem all that expensive. When you change your name, it's a new guild altogether. Money sinks exist for a reason So don't complain to anet asking them to make everything cheaper just cause you don't feel like shelling out the money. Especially for 20k ROFL You can make that easily using any cookie cutter farming build here on these forums.
I am not a farmer. 20K is a weeks questing for me. I have a one-person guild. I hate it when elitists tell me that that much money is easy to get. I am sorry, but I don't have a 55monk, and no character capable of ettin farming. I don't want to be forced to play that way. A Guild name shouldn't be such a big hassle, once you have a hall.
I never find any green stuff either, so I won't get any rich of trade spamming either. Simple players, like me, deserve a brake too. This is not a game for only elitists.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cymmina
You can't afford 2k? How often are you changing your capes?
I can do that, but it is way to expensive. What if I simply want a deeper shade of red?

Arduin

Arduin

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

The Netherlands

Limburgse Jagers [LJ]

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Or you could ask your guild-members to donate some funds (they will be wearing the new cape too...) I mean, with 4 or so members (small guild), 500g each isn't that much

Silent Kitty

Silent Kitty

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

Netherlands

[TYW] "The Young World"

A/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Arduinna
Or you could ask your guild-members to donate some funds (they will be wearing the new cape too...) I mean, with 4 or so members (small guild), 500g each isn't that much
You missed the part where I stated that I have one-person guild

DeathDealer

DeathDealer

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

The Dark Side of the Moon....and I'm goin' back real soon

Guildless

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lex Talionis
Great idea that way everyone will change their guild name everyday for a cheap price + noone will know who's who. If you think a celestial sigil is expensive now, you're obviously new to the game. When this game first came out, sigils were going for 80k until they gradually dropped in price. So looking at it now 20k doesn't seem all that expensive. When you change your name, it's a new guild altogether. Money sinks exist for a reason So don't complain to anet asking them to make everything cheaper just cause you don't feel like shelling out the money. Especially for 20k ROFL You can make that easily using any cookie cutter farming build here on these forums.
exactly...when I started back in july 2005, they were 70k+...they are only 20k now eh (I've been in the same guild for quite some time)?

Lex Talionis

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2005

in the real world away from virtual idiots

Wtf Is Guildwars [Duno]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Silent Kitty
I am not a farmer. 20K is a weeks questing for me. I have a one-person guild. I hate it when elitists tell me that that much money is easy to get. I am sorry, but I don't have a 55monk, and no character capable of ettin farming. I don't want to be forced to play that way. A Guild name shouldn't be such a big hassle, once you have a hall.
I never find any green stuff either, so I won't get any rich of trade spamming either. Simple players, like me, deserve a brake too. This is not a game for only elitists.



I can do that, but it is way to expensive. What if I simply want a deeper shade of red?

Your a one man guild + don't farm? How do you plan on inviting ppl to your guild? Can you even spare the 100g for invites? I don't beleive you've thought this whole thing thru. btw invites used to be free

Silent Kitty

Silent Kitty

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

Netherlands

[TYW] "The Young World"

A/Me

I guess you all missed my point. A guild name only cost 100G But when you have a hall, changing the name is no longer that cheap. Changing the cape cost 2K, which is way to expensive when you only want to change the background a bit. Forget that, it isn't that important. Which leaves us at the namechange, once you have a hall. In that case it cost you 100G registration again, and about 20K if you want to have your hall again. Changing the name, without losing the hall, should be possible.
You get it now?

PS. I don't invite people (I am not a man either)

HawkofStorms

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

You are in a perminant one person guild with a Guild Hall with no plans on inviting anybody else.
Sry, but you don't need a guild hall then in the first place.

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by HawkofStorms
You are in a perminant one person guild with a Guild Hall with no plans on inviting anybody else.
Sry, but you don't need a guild hall then in the first place.
actually i am chief cook and sole propriator (and staff) of 3 guilds

i like the sun of Wizards islu
the moonlight of Hunters isle
and will get one of the Factions as well.

and i am not a 55 farmer have never been to FOW/UW and never sold anything over 26k for some black dyes to the trader before the reset (WHICH I MISSED BY 15 MINUTES)

Former Ruling

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Cedartown, Georgia

R/

Change the name of your guild at random? That would cuase chaos.

Its specifically designed where you CANT do that...If you could there would be no use for the Guild Ladder/rank system becuase you'd never be able to keep up with it.

If you want to change guilds (and thus halls) every day or w/e thats your agenda, but its stupid because you only need guild halls when you have 8+ members and can use the hall. If you choose to take the cost upon yourself then we cant stop you...you just have to except the high cost.

EF2NYD

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

Having a Guild Hall requires a team contribution most of the time. No team, no hall.

Winterclaw

Winterclaw

Wark!!!

Join Date: May 2005

Florida

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Sounds like a good idea to me. There might be a problem with guilds in the tournament, but perhaps the devs could program it in so that the names will alternate for the first week or two so people can get used to the change... and it isn't like some guilds will restart things again just for the challenge of working up the ladder.

Here's another suggestion for guild capes: you should be able to change them back to an old one for free, meaning once you paid the 2K you can use that cape whenever you want to and if you ever want to use it again, it'll be on a list. That way guilds can go back and forth if they want to without any hassle.

Rayea

Rayea

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

west yorkshire, Uk

Sisters of Serenity

N/Mo

winterclaw, thats a good idea (the reuse oder cloak model)

hows about, so you dont go changing your guild name every day or so....
guildname change requires one MONTH wait befor you can change again....

kitty, im in there with you, i too am a one woman guild...i used to have another memeber, but he recently stopped playing due to skillnerf ect....(and the fact he is now addicted to WoW lol)
originally, i wanted to be a newbie helper guild, but since there was no guild storeage, i was stuck....
unlike kitty, though, i have yet to collect enough to get a guildhall, so i could change my guilds name at the drop of a hat..(since i also have no cape yet...i was hoping they would implement a invisible cape part an once they did, i just never got around to getting one made....looking forward to the new designs with factions though)

ok, to the naysayer, theres no reason why a *big* guild would change its name allthe time....i mean, they WANT to be recognised, right?
its us little guys that sometimes want to change names....manes that looked cool and imaginitive are now stale and noobish feeling to some...they want to change them, but if they have a Hall, they might not be able to afford to.

(and no, not everyone has a lot of gld, rich guildies or enough in game cash to get a new guildhall often)

crazy diamond

crazy diamond

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Silent Kitty
You missed the part where I stated that I have one-person guild
Guilds are designed with many players in mind, not one. You can't seriously expect it to work the way you want it to.

To ask that they change things to cater to, not just one guild, but one person is ridiculous.

Silent Kitty

Silent Kitty

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

Netherlands

[TYW] "The Young World"

A/Me

Personally think the consensus amongs long time players, farmers and farmbot owners is that prices shouldn't go lower. When I was still a newbie, I imediately started to safe my money. I thought the price of a hall was about 70K than, so I got that money. When I arrived in Lion's Arch (I believe), it turned out to be only 17K. What I want to say is, that the price will not stop newbies from getting a hall. One can easily farm 70K in pre-sear. That was what I did.
I just want to be able to change the guild name, without losing the hall. I have worked very hard for it, while the name only cost 100G. Is that to much to ask? Put a pricetag on the hall as high as you want, but please give people a chance to change the name. It is tough, for below average players like me, to get that much of money over and over again.
The majority of my guild wants a namechange, without having to lose an arm, leg, a kidney and a high mortage on our homes.

sakura75

sakura75

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

The Netherlands

Intensive Care Unit [ICU]

I think that changing a guild's name that is not in the ladder or participating in GvGs should be doable for a much cheaper price. But still I have some questions purely to answer my curiosity.
1) Why not remain guildless if you are a solo player? A good friendslist will be fine.
2) Why buying a GH if you do not participate in GvG or have no other guildies to meet?
3) Don't you think playing in a good/friendly guild would be an enrichment for you playing GW? Believe me it is an eye-opener (positively and negatively)

Rayea

Rayea

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

west yorkshire, Uk

Sisters of Serenity

N/Mo

sakura...

remaining guildless is sometimes too much of a hastle...
ever has some random person PM (whisper) you wanting to know..'do u want 2 be in my guild? we got cape, hall website ect?'
when you explain that you dont want to , some say, oh, kk but others try the hard sell on you....and usually cause they think your a girl and want you tou stare at (at least, i have had that problem)

one person guilds are the solution to that.

why buy a hall when your just one person?
well, i want a home in guildwars, but i cant have one...so a hall is the closest i can have to one right now....its MINE, you see.....i OWN it....its not about boasting or stuff like that, its just having somehwere to all YOURS sometimes
also, if by some mirracle, they give me the things i need to *become* a newbie helper guild..(storeage in guild and for guild in the towns/outposts, a reason to quest as a guild (not connected to factions directly) traders/NPC/crafters in guildhall, rooms/tavern/little temple to the gods/ training area/1x1 to 4x4 training arena ect.)....then i will become an active guild...in which case, the cost of a celectial will skyrocket, i predict, ether cause theres more of a reason other than GvG and PvP to have a guild...or because theres some kick-ass Factions halls that everyone starts tradingin the worn out warriors isle hall for lol

playing in a good/friendly guild.....very, VERY hard to find.....once found, you have to be compatable with them, just like they have to be with you...
what is the point of spending months of in game serching to find a nice/friendly guild, only to find out they have all buggered off to WoW or whatever the new game is (in respect to RPG and PvE orientated guilds) or that your not a good enough PvP'er to be alowed into the guild (which will become more prevolent once Factions is implemented..after all, who wants deadweight in their guild when their fightin for the control of a town/city/map area?

Winterclaw

Winterclaw

Wark!!!

Join Date: May 2005

Florida

W/

I can't answer for silent kitty, but I know people make one person guilds just so they can have a cape they like.

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Winterclaw
I can't answer for silent kitty, but I know people make one person guilds just so they can have a cape they like.
and that is the funny part.
i did not buy a guild,cape, or hall until they made the fix so i could toggle that rag off and out of sight

2 capes and i never see either of them

Silent Kitty

Silent Kitty

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

Netherlands

[TYW] "The Young World"

A/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by sakura75
1) Why not remain guildless if you are a solo player? A good friendslist will be fine.
Actually, I am a clanleader. I wanted to recruit the clanmembers , for a guild here too.

Quote:
Originally Posted by sakura75
2) Why buying a GH if you do not participate in GvG or have no other guildies to meet?
My intention was to get all my clannies to help me to fight pvp. I though that buying a hall would persuade them to join me. Since they don't feel like, or constantly make empty promisses, I decided that the name is not longer valid here.

Quote:
Originally Posted by sakura75
3) Don't you think playing in a good/friendly guild would be an enrichment for you playing GW? Believe me it is an eye-opener (positively and negatively)
Sorry, I have been playing to much with random players. My experience with guild members is, In the middle of a mission; "Sorry, I have to go. My guild members need me." Result, greyed out life bar.

Winterclaw

Winterclaw

Wark!!!

Join Date: May 2005

Florida

W/

Kitty, if you ask me, that reflects poorly on the guild and the player if they can't wait 15-20 minutes to let him finish his obligation in a mission. I will say that I haven't had that happen to me very much so part of it might be your luck.

Vermilion

Vermilion

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

NY

Quote:
Originally Posted by Silent Kitty
Personally think the consensus amongs long time players, farmers and farmbot owners is that prices shouldn't go lower. When I was still a newbie, I imediately started to safe my money. I thought the price of a hall was about 70K than, so I got that money. When I arrived in Lion's Arch (I believe), it turned out to be only 17K. What I want to say is, that the price will not stop newbies from getting a hall. One can easily farm 70K in pre-sear. That was what I did.
I just want to be able to change the guild name, without losing the hall. I have worked very hard for it, while the name only cost 100G. Is that to much to ask? Put a pricetag on the hall as high as you want, but please give people a chance to change the name. It is tough, for below average players like me, to get that much of money over and over again.
The majority of my guild wants a namechange, without having to lose an arm, leg, a kidney and a high mortage on our homes.
Call it a nub question, but how/why did you farm 70k in pre?

ontopic - The name change price drop would certainly cause some confusion with people changing guild names a lot like some have already said, but I do like the idea of a name-change limit.
I like having a guild
1. for a cape
2. for pvp
3. so I can form a group for any mission without spamming LFG all the time.

but thats just me.

XeNoGeArZ

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Can someone clarify:

Do you need to be in a guild to fully explore GW: Factions? I heard something about guild leader choosing the L or K side ...

sakura75

sakura75

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

The Netherlands

Intensive Care Unit [ICU]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Silent Kitty
Actually, I am a clanleader. I wanted to recruit the clanmembers , for a guild here too.
Why does many people want to be a guild leader? I am guild leader myself, but I do not mind if someone want to take over this post.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Silent Kitty
My intention was to get all my clannies to help me to fight pvp. I though that buying a hall would persuade them to join me. Since they don't feel like, or constantly make empty promisses, I decided that the name is not longer valid here.
A GH is not required to play PvP, only required to play GvG. I know the feeling. It is very hard to get daily active, friendly and loyal players nowadays, but fortunately we have several in our guild.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Silent Kitty
Sorry, I have been playing to much with random players. My experience with guild members is, In the middle of a mission; "Sorry, I have to go. My guild members need me." Result, greyed out life bar.
My hair almost turned grey by playing with PUGS, that is why I have a guild that play GvG, PvP and some PvE (only when really bored). How about PM me some time and we could play together. My lifebar will only turn grey cause of err7, which happens exceptionally.

ducktape

ducktape

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

W/R

I heard that you can talk to the Canthan Ferry Captain at Lion's arch and tell him you want to shop for a guild hall, and that once you are in a different guild hall, you tell him you want to switch guild halls and he gives you your sigil back so you can buy a different hall. At which point you can sell the sigil, or in your case, disband and recreate your guild, and choose your guild hall again.

I am not the guild leader of my guild, so I have not been able to try this, but I thought I might mention it since it could save you a lot of money. If it is not true, sorry...just trying to save you the time of farming 20k.

Makkert

Makkert

Black Beast of Aarrrrgghh

Join Date: May 2005

The Netherlands

The Biggyverse [PLEB] // Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

Only signed if changing guildname would also reset the ladderposition.

Silent Kitty

Silent Kitty

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

Netherlands

[TYW] "The Young World"

A/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vermilion
Call it a nub question, but how/why did you farm 70k in pre?
I give you two hints: "Boring static gargoyles, and easy money while being at work " This is not all, but already more than I want to tell.

Quote:
Originally Posted by ducktape
I heard that you can talk to the Canthan Ferry Captain at Lion's arch and tell him you want to shop for a guild hall, and that once you are in a different guild hall, you tell him you want to switch guild halls and he gives you your sigil back so you can buy a different hall. At which point you can sell the sigil, or in your case, disband and recreate your guild, and choose your guild hall again.

I am not the guild leader of my guild, so I have not been able to try this, but I thought I might mention it since it could save you a lot of money. If it is not true, sorry...just trying to save you the time of farming 20k.
That is certainly worth trying
It is not the money, but it is simply way to expesive losing a guild hall, just because you want to change the name.

Quote:
Originally Posted by sakura75
Why does many people want to be a guild leader? I am guild leader myself, but I do not mind if someone want to take over this post.
Erm... I didn't ask to become a leader. That is something that happens when you register the name. I deleted the character which formed the guild, but I am still leader.

Quote:
Originally Posted by sakura75
A GH is not required to play PvP, only required to play GvG. I know the feeling. It is very hard to get daily active, friendly and loyal players nowadays, but fortunately we have several in our guild.
Dream on. Why don't you try to recruit people, without a GH? You'll see that many will not join you, because you don't have one.

Quote:
Originally Posted by sakura75
My hair almost turned grey by playing with PUGS, that is why I have a guild that play GvG, PvP and some PvE (only when really bored). How about PM me some time and we could play together. My lifebar will only turn grey cause of err7, which happens exceptionally.
I am not a nice person. My tactical options will always be ignored, I get angry over "My health is 350 out of 350" spam (I already know I'm a good healer ), and I don't chit chat in the game. When we do a mission, all I want to talk about is that particular mission.

Winterclaw

Winterclaw

Wark!!!

Join Date: May 2005

Florida

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Silent Kitty
I give you two hints: "Boring static gargoyles, and easy money while being at work " This is not all, but already more than I want to tell.
Great, now Anet is going to nerf presearing.

Quote:
Erm... I didn't ask to become a leader. That is something that happens when you register the name. I deleted the character which formed the guild, but I am still leader.
Well if you can get some other people to join your guild, then you can hand it off if you like.

Silent Kitty

Silent Kitty

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

Netherlands

[TYW] "The Young World"

A/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Winterclaw
Great, now Anet is going to nerf presearing.
Sure, the average drop is 3 gold. OMFG HAXX0RZ!!!!!!!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Winterclaw
Well if you can get some other people to join your guild, then you can hand it off if you like.
I'll give it to you for 10K

Jiao Yang

Jiao Yang

Lunar Rabbit

Join Date: Dec 2005

If its a one person guild, why buy a hall?
And yes.. i agree with what some people have said about guilds just changing their names too much. Its the same with changing your character name, they want to make it as realistic as possible- most people dont change their name one day just because they done like it.

UltimaXtreme

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Silent Kitty
You missed the part where I stated that I have one-person guild
thats not called a guild

Rayea

Rayea

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

west yorkshire, Uk

Sisters of Serenity

N/Mo

yes, its, by the definintions the game uses, since *anyONE* can form a guild.

personally, i am rooting for a Mini-Guild system so that those of us who want to make small guilds (from one person up to 25 memebers) can do so without having to work s hard at it.
obviously, we would loose out on certain aspects of the game, such as...

we would get a smaller hall...example, the current Halls become named Guild Isles...and one large Isle becomes around 8 different Fort-style Halls for Mini-Guilds (so rather than a celestial sigil, you pay about half the price for a Star Sigil for a hall)
mini-guild can only GvG against OTHER mini-guild, have no ladder (or if asked anough, they own little ladder)
Mini-guild dont get as much of everytihng as a full size guild would, of course.

if at any time, you wanted to upgrade to full size guild, just go talk to the guild hall manager and select upgrade. pay the difference between a celestial to Star sigil (noted at the original time of purchase, so you dont have to pay more or les dependingon the markets flux) and there ya go, chief...your now a Full Sized Guild

simply because somone has yet to find a person they trust, can play with and like, that they might aske them into their guild, dose not make thier guild a non-entity

LightningHell

LightningHell

(????????????)???

Join Date: Aug 2005

Hong Kong

Guildless

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Silent Kitty
Dream on. Why don't you try to recruit people, without a GH? You'll see that many will not join you, because you don't have one.
Why do you want to recruit people when you want to have a 1-person-guild?

Silent Kitty

Silent Kitty

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

Netherlands

[TYW] "The Young World"

A/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by LightningHell
Why do you want to recruit people when you want to have a 1-person-guild?
This question doesn't sound logical to me.

I prefer to stay as close to the topic as possible. The size of my guild, and why I want to have a hall, is my problem.

Winterclaw

Winterclaw

Wark!!!

Join Date: May 2005

Florida

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Silent Kitty
Sure, the average drop is 3 gold. OMFG HAXX0RZ!!!!!!!
That's 2.97 GP too many.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Silent Kitty
I'll give it to you for 10K
Thanks for the offer but no thanks, I have my own tiny guild that needs boosting. I'll let you join for free if you like.

keldean rainmaker

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2005

R/E

well i am guildless my self,but in the other hand i was considering a one man guild..if A-net give the option for a storage in guildhalls..i need the place to store my items..and extra money is not a problem.

i would agree with the OP (if i buy my own guild i would want to easyly change its name and hall as i want).
like Makkert said../signed if resets guild standing in ladder.

LightningHell

LightningHell

(????????????)???

Join Date: Aug 2005

Hong Kong

Guildless

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Silent Kitty
This question doesn't sound logical to me.
Exactly. The statement doesn't sound logical to me, either, given your background.

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

one possible reason is that if a quick easy, cheap guild name change were possible think of the maggots coming out of the wooswork with their cute obscene name guild just to see how long they could offend people before being told to change it.

this makes some of them think that the price of doing that is too high.