Question concerning guild wars's future

Tidus the one

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2005

I was just wondering how the pve people will enjoy their games without a way to make money freely.... Of course, I'm a mmorpg fan but i consider World of Warcraft to be better because the game offers a lot more freedom. Unlike wow, Guild Wars restricted the players to make money or to make profit when sell back a particular item. I think this is unfair and soon, will ruin guild wars. I want your thought on this and how you feel. Thank you.

Killmur

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Arizona - America

R/Mo

I see no restrictions whatsoever. Sure making money is hard but that is just like in real life.

striderkaaru

striderkaaru

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Scars Meadows [SMS], Retired Officer

W/

making money is hard...?

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tidus the one
I want your thought on this and how you feel. Thank you.
ok

according to the sales tracking services GW which had only 8 months of the year to get its sales in was number 4 overall

it passed one million very early according to conventional wisdom.

it is (and has already) expanded (will expand) soon into several new potentially high sales countries.

if you check out all the different sites the will you buy Factions polls the results are usually very positive for return players which is a good sign.

according to Anet reps the number of active and new playing accounts is growing faster than they expected or hoped.

the above makes me think GW will be around for some time.

my opinion as asked for

Lord Iowerth

Lord Iowerth

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Atlanta, GA (#guildwarsguru FTW!)

Biscuit Of Dewm [MEEP]

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by striderkaaru
making money is hard...?
/ponder

Does that mean you're handing it out free, Strider?

Killmur

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Arizona - America

R/Mo

X_X... Yea it can actually be hard to make money. It's worse when you have more than 2 characters and you have to buy gear for them. It will be far more worse when people merge their accounts into 6 slotters.

striderkaaru

striderkaaru

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Scars Meadows [SMS], Retired Officer

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord Iowerth
/ponder

Does that mean you're handing it out free, Strider?
lol.

part of the reason i can say something like that is because i don't hand it out for free. sorry to disappoint, iowerth. =P

Teklord

Teklord

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Lloyd.ab.ca

Lords of All

R/Mo

It can be hard to make money if you didn't jump on the 55 bandwagon, or other successful farming technique back when they were introduced and were affordable.

Or if you didn't (or wouldn't) take advantage of some game exploit simply because it was there.

You don't make several hundred plat merely by picking up every drop and selling it to the merchant. And to get that perfect drop that people will pay insane amounts for is just plain luck.

"In my experience there's no such thing as luck." -Obi Wan

Lord Iowerth

Lord Iowerth

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Atlanta, GA (#guildwarsguru FTW!)

Biscuit Of Dewm [MEEP]

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by striderkaaru
lol.

part of the reason i can say something like that is because i don't hand it out for free. sorry to disappoint, iowerth. =P
Just thought i'd give you some grief and I wouldn't take it anyway!

I have a habit of sneaking extra money into transactions with my guildies ... this is commonly known as "Pulling a Lord" ... they are pretty much the only people I give items/cash to or accept from at no charge, and they have caught onto my tricks of throwing a couple plat into the trade window on "accident"

aB-

aB-

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

I'm going to start with a very overused phrase.

Comparing Guild Wars to WoW is like comparing apples to oranges. If you like getting high levels and treasure hunting for really nice items, WoW is great. If you like a very fair and balanced game that doesn't require much time investment, Guild Wars is great. I'm not saying WoW isn't balanced abd fair or Guild Wars isn't about treasure hunting, but these games have entirely different focuses. Which game is superior? Well, that's up to the player to decide.

Cherno

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

Stars of Destiny

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Teklord
It can be hard to make money if you didn't jump on the 55 bandwagon, or other successful farming technique back when they were introduced and were affordable.

Or if you didn't (or wouldn't) take advantage of some game exploit simply because it was there.

You don't make several hundred plat merely by picking up every drop and selling it to the merchant. And to get that perfect drop that people will pay insane amounts for is just plain luck.

"In my experience there's no such thing as luck." -Obi Wan
It isn't that hard to get the money for the things you "need" in the game, crafted perfect clean weapons, 1.5k armor, skills, caps sigs, etc by just playing the game.

You will get enough gold from going around the normal way, or crafting supplies to easily be able to afford the normal stuff. What you won't be able to afford super fast is the vanity stuff or possibly perfect mods for your weapons. Even then it isn't that difficult.

I still use keys all the time. More often than not the items I get isn't worth the money for the key, but you do get the chance to get mods and armors that will be worth your time. You won't be rolling in excessive gold, but you can get by without going hungry.

quickmonty

quickmonty

Ancient Windbreaker

Join Date: May 2005

No problems making money, and I realy enjoy my PvE game.

What was the question?

Age

Age

Hall Hero

Join Date: Jul 2005

California Canada/BC

STG Administrator

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Killmur
I see no restrictions whatsoever. Sure making money is hard but that is just like in real life.
There is only one thing different between this and real life in real life you get to invest your money not in GW.

Grais

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

The Tools

Quote:
Originally Posted by Age
There is only one thing different between this and real life in real life you get to invest your money not in GW.
At first I thought Age must be a newbie, but I see the join date is last summer, mmm, well I guess Age has never really thought much about the concept(no crime there) of investing in GW's items when they are cheap and sellin them when they are expensive. That is called investing.

Hired Blade

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2006

Oregon USA

Leader Of (Hired Souls)

W/

Money is actually pretty easy to make. I reccomend building one character up, keep in mind what u want to do. Farming certain areas is really restricted to character type. Also you can make good money with a ranger or warrior running. Of course questing you can make a decent amount of money if get lucky drops.

Grimm

Grimm

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

N/

Money isn't even important in this game. If you only enjoy games by making money, then well, I don't know what to tell you. Maybe try the "Tycoon" series of games?

Sekkira

Sekkira

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2005

Canberra, AU

Making money in the game isn't hard. People only think it is. I made my 55 monk during the peak of it's time. Right when it was impossible to get those runes from the rune trader because scalpers were buying them and selling at ridiculous prices. This was my actual first source of income and I had no problems setting it up.

If you want something easier though, take a warrior, 16 in axe mastery, 11 tactics, 9 strength, eviscerate, executioners, penetrating, disrupting, sprint, frenzy, heal sig, res sig. Yes, res sig. Go to the desert, Elona, Dunes, Hero's, Augery, Seekers, Thirsty. Take a walk outside, kill whatever you come across. it's easy.

quickmonty

quickmonty

Ancient Windbreaker

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Age
There is only one thing different between this and real life in real life you get to invest your money not in GW.
In real life you pay taxes on what you earn

CyberNigma

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2006

San Antonio, TX

W/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cherno
It isn't that hard to get the money for the things you "need" in the game, crafted perfect clean weapons, 1.5k armor, skills, caps sigs, etc by just playing the game.

You will get enough gold from going around the normal way, or crafting supplies to easily be able to afford the normal stuff. What you won't be able to afford super fast is the vanity stuff or possibly perfect mods for your weapons. Even then it isn't that difficult.

I still use keys all the time. More often than not the items I get isn't worth the money for the key, but you do get the chance to get mods and armors that will be worth your time. You won't be rolling in excessive gold, but you can get by without going hungry.
Of course we don't need to save the world from the Titans. We can let someone else do that.. It is something we enjoy though :-) That's the difference between a game like Dungeon Siege and Guild Wars. Both are isntanced, both have updates (one in the form up an expansion and user-created mods) whereas the other from the developers in the form of an expansion and new chapters, and both are multiplayer. The difference is that in Guild Wars, you get the option of showing off your wares to others in the game :-).. Without that, it's Dungeon Siege with multiple lobbies.

Lord Iowerth

Lord Iowerth

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Atlanta, GA (#guildwarsguru FTW!)

Biscuit Of Dewm [MEEP]

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by quickmonty
In real life you pay taxes on what you earn
Shhhh!!! If the IRS finds out, you know they'll try to get us there too!

NatalieD

NatalieD

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tidus the one
Unlike wow, Guild Wars restricted the players to make money or to make profit when sell back a particular item.
What the hell does this even mean?

ghostlyranger

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

i like guildwars because of the frequent update and the more balance pvp than many other subscribing base mmo.

Rayne Nightfyre

Rayne Nightfyre

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Acolytes of Lyssa [AL]

Me/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by Teklord
It can be hard to make money if you didn't jump on the 55 bandwagon, or other successful farming technique back when they were introduced and were affordable.

Or if you didn't (or wouldn't) take advantage of some game exploit simply because it was there.

You don't make several hundred plat merely by picking up every drop and selling it to the merchant. And to get that perfect drop that people will pay insane amounts for is just plain luck.

"In my experience there's no such thing as luck." -Obi Wan
That perfectly sums up my frustration involving the current situation. Guild Wars was always said to stress player skill, not hours played (grinding/farming). That is true in PvP, but in PvE, at the minute the entire end-game seems to be all about farming for greens, 55'ing, and rushing your characters to end-game so you can take advantage of a particular exploit.
I don't know what the solution is, but I'd like to see some change in this regard by somehow seeing the focus shift from "farming" back to exploring and playing the game the way it should be played. Which involves adding incentive to play through the storyline.

But thinking again, all this mounting frustration is mostly due to GW being out for nearly a year without any major expansions (SF/Tombs doesn't count). So with the release of Factions, I'm hoping we'll see better incentive for playing PvE.

Cymboric Treewalker

Cymboric Treewalker

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

Imperial Palace - Cantha

[SFK] Sacred Forge Knights (founder)

Me/Mo

I have enough money... just shy of 910K -- after spending 80K on perfecting the dye color of choice. I have a mesmer and a ranger... but leveled one of each class to 20... I farm with my ranger is some areas... but doing alot with the mesmer now... and it is very easy to farm with the mesmer.