Para got hacked

Josh

Josh

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

England, UK

D/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bloodied Blade
How do you deduce that it was "Taint This Noob" other than the fact that he seems to be bragging about it with his name...
I was joking calm down.

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bloodied Blade

Para, you got cracked, not hacked. There is a difference, though most people are not familiar with it.
the one thing that confuses me is that i thought you had to comfirm an email change from the original email.

if this is so why didnt he refuse the email change and keep his account?

toric brightblade

toric brightblade

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

Searching for EU farm guild

A/

cus this 'hacker' had acces to his email, therefore confirming it himself

Omega X

Omega X

Ninja Unveiler

Join Date: Jun 2005

Louisiana, USA

Boston Guild[BG]

W/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Loviatar
in this case free is for home personal use only and has been the top rated software firewall for years.

do you ever go by SHIELDS UP for a port scan to see if you are actually stealthed and secure?
I did that with Sygate and it was 100% stealthed with a couple of tweaks.

Yunas Ele

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by schutz
Send pictures of your cd key + game to anet and ask them to reset email and password to your choice
That seems like your best bet. And then just follow all the tips in this thread like don't DL programs that seem suspicious, keep a secure password etc to keep it from happening again.

Well if worst comes to the worst and you can't get your account back I can give you some gold to get you started up again (you messaged me for some gold but I was busy at the time so I couldn't give you any) as well as let you in my teams to get your fame back up.

undeadpolice

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2006

W/N

Awww too bad. btw do u go lan shops/cyber cafe to play GW??? if u do someone could have install a key logger into the computer. If u do play in Lan shops/cyber cafer heres my advice(becuz its works on me duing Diablo 2 days) make friends with the owner and the ppl works there(as for me they happen to be my school mates) if a hacker has install a keylogger in the computer(of cuz it has to be in a lan shop) he has to come back to the same computer to get those password due to the protection with the lan shop so theres no way u can get it by the internet. ok if u got acc hacked take note of the computer. Ask your friend to eye on that computer and call u once he spoted that hacker then u call all your friends(I'm talking about big groups at least 10-15) Pull him out of his seat give him a hell of a beating. Beat him up 1st ask question later. Force him to return your account and password(as for me I force him to speak out every account he hacked) if he lie that he duno anythhing about hacking your account by all means beat him up again. or u call the cops to arrest him but that hacker can lie his way out and if u have no proof the cops would let him go.

Lord Cooper

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Black Death Knights

E/

ok that is officially the stupidest thing i have ever heard! you expect to walk in to any business premises, drag a customer from his seat and beat the crap out of him? you will get arrrested you will get a little trip to the police station. all he has to say is he has no idea who you are or why you did it.

banishd

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

Ivy League [IVY]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by undeadpolice
Awww too bad. btw do u go lan shops/cyber cafe to play GW??? if u do someone could have install a key logger into the computer. If u do play in Lan shops/cyber cafer heres my advice(becuz its works on me duing Diablo 2 days) make friends with the owner and the ppl works there(as for me they happen to be my school mates) if a hacker has install a keylogger in the computer(of cuz it has to be in a lan shop) he has to come back to the same computer to get those password due to the protection with the lan shop so theres no way u can get it by the internet. ok if u got acc hacked take note of the computer. Ask your friend to eye on that computer and call u once he spoted that hacker then u call all your friends(I'm talking about big groups at least 10-15) Pull him out of his seat give him a hell of a beating. Beat him up 1st ask question later. Force him to return your account and password(as for me I force him to speak out every account he hacked) if he lie that he duno anythhing about hacking your account by all means beat him up again. or u call the cops to arrest him but that hacker can lie his way out and if u have no proof the cops would let him go.
You Sir are an idiot.

Str0b0

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Carolina

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by undeadpolice
Awww too bad. btw do u go lan shops/cyber cafe to play GW??? if u do someone could have install a key logger into the computer. If u do play in Lan shops/cyber cafer heres my advice(becuz its works on me duing Diablo 2 days) make friends with the owner and the ppl works there(as for me they happen to be my school mates) if a hacker has install a keylogger in the computer(of cuz it has to be in a lan shop) he has to come back to the same computer to get those password due to the protection with the lan shop so theres no way u can get it by the internet. ok if u got acc hacked take note of the computer. Ask your friend to eye on that computer and call u once he spoted that hacker then u call all your friends(I'm talking about big groups at least 10-15) Pull him out of his seat give him a hell of a beating. Beat him up 1st ask question later. Force him to return your account and password(as for me I force him to speak out every account he hacked) if he lie that he duno anythhing about hacking your account by all means beat him up again. or u call the cops to arrest him but that hacker can lie his way out and if u have no proof the cops would let him go.

First off Illegal. Secondly beating is a poor interrogation method. KUBARK protocol doesn't even recommend the threat of it unless absolutely necessary and even then only with certain personality types. A hacker is likely to have a superior/reticent personality type and therefore be more or less immune to interrogation by torture. He'll bear it or lie to get out of it. The best bet is to contact GW support I think they can do one recovery of your account provided you can provide them with proof that you are indeed the owner of the account. A picture of your CD with the key would work or just provide the key. Sorry I did some work during my time in service and I really hate people advocating beatings as an effective means of information retrieval.

sigried

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

Honduras

Ye Old

W/Mo

its quite dificult that someone can hack the acount he has to acces email to
and by the way he recieve notice that the acount was log off since he was playing.

So i think he also mention e know what is goin on in early post.

Misz_Piggie

Misz_Piggie

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

uhmm i cant remember

W/Mo

lol beat up every person that sits in that chair. good idea! /end sarcasm

S e X e N ™

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

Team Explicit

W/Mo

Sorry to say, im guessing you use some kind of guildwars bot or somthing and they key logged your password ... or one of your friends screwed you... hope this teaches you.

Woutsie

Woutsie

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Belgium

Quote:
Originally Posted by Misz_Piggie
lol beat up every person that sits in that chair. good idea! /end sarcasm
"give me your account, i swear to god i will kill ur whole family!!!"
"ok"

Caldec

Caldec

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Buffalo, NY

people say u can set ur account 2 auto log in how exactly is that done

Knight Of Morion

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2005

United States

The Short Bus [The Crusaders]Alliance

W/Mo

Ok i had the samething happen to me, just report the incident to the A-Net ppl. Call them if you have to, they will investigate, then they will ask you to fax them a copy of your CD-Key insert in the CD-case, then they will reset your email and password....I couldn'tfigure out who stole my account though

Plazma Knight

Plazma Knight

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Nerf Wammo Plz[WaMo] Team Arena Top Guild

ouch sry to hear that..

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Caldec
people say u can set ur account 2 auto log in how exactly is that done
if your account pc is secure from prying eyes only.

right click desktop shortcut

click properties

go to target line which will end in .exe"

to that line add the following

space(a space not the word)-password=xxxxxxxx(your password

click apply

log in and type password and remember me on this pc

play and simply hit the shortcut in the future

jules

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Xen of Sigils [XoO]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Str0b0
First off Illegal. Secondly beating is a poor interrogation method. KUBARK protocol doesn't even recommend the threat of it unless absolutely necessary and even then only with certain personality types. A hacker is likely to have a superior/reticent personality type and therefore be more or less immune to interrogation by torture. He'll bear it or lie to get out of it.


So.. uh.. what's the best way to 'persuade' a hacker to cooperate?

Caldec

Caldec

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Buffalo, NY

Quote:
Originally Posted by Loviatar
if your account pc is secure from prying eyes only.

right click desktop shortcut

click properties

go to target line which will end in .exe"

to that line add the following

space(a space not the word)-password=xxxxxxxx(your password

click apply

log in and type password and remember me on this pc

play and simply hit the shortcut in the future
i did exactly that and it accepted when i hit apply but it still goes 2 log in screen did i miss something

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Caldec
i did exactly that and it accepted when i hit apply but it still goes 2 log in screen did i miss something
log in screen or character selection screen?

EDIT

it should look like this

.exe" -password=xxxxxxxxx

Caldec

Caldec

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Buffalo, NY

Quote:
Originally Posted by Loviatar
log in screen or character selection screen?
regular log in

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Caldec
regular log in
2 things

if it looks exactly like my edit

manually log in and play for a moment then log out and be sure you have the little remember me box checked.

take a look at the target line to see if it is still there and absolutely correct.

i havent typed a pass in months so i know this works

Josh

Josh

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

England, UK

D/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Caldec
i did exactly that and it accepted when i hit apply but it still goes 2 log in screen did i miss something
It should be:

"C:\Program Files\Guild Wars\Gw.exe" -password=XXX

XXX = your password

But also, make sure your e-mail is set to "remembering it" on the Guild Wars login page.

Caldec

Caldec

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Buffalo, NY

ok ill check again in a moment oim in pre searing developing my new account.

thanks for your help

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Josh
It should be:

"C:\Program Files\Guild Wars\Gw.exe" -password=XXX

XXX = your password

But also, make sure your e-mail is set to "remembering it" on the Guild Wars login page.
ummmm.............didnt i say add exactly what you just said to the existing target?

Teklord

Teklord

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Lloyd.ab.ca

Lords of All

R/Mo

Actually physical discomfort is a very effective way to gain cooperation or information from an individual. It may not be the most time efficient though but everyone has a breaking point it is only a matter of time needed to get to that point. Just like everyone has their price, which of itself can be used to gain information.

To perhaps more clearly illustrate the shortcut line used for auto login. Under the Shortcut tab of the properties of the shortcut there is a Target field. That field will contain this line dependant on where Guild Wars was intalled to:
"C:\Program Files\Guild Wars\Gw.exe"

Simply add the switch 'password=<password>' to activate auto login so that it will look similar to:
"C:\Program Files\Guild Wars\Gw.exe" -password=letmein

Using that shortcut will result in logging in to the account using the specified password. This also depends on having the "Remember this e-mail address" ticked at the login screen and using the correct address that goes with the password placed in the shortcut.

I've played with keyloggers at work (I'm an IT guy) so I know how dangerous they can be. To the point that I pretty much don't download anything 3rd party unless it's posted at an official site.

Edit: Shoot had to leave my response half finished to take care of something and 20 minutes later everything I wanted to clarify / add had been said.

Str0b0

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Carolina

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by jules


So.. uh.. what's the best way to 'persuade' a hacker to cooperate?

Social engineering and catering to the ego would be my tactic of choice. Hackers already think they are smarter than everyone else so play the dumb schmuck and occasionally slip in a comment about how awesome this or that is or how cool said person is. You stroke an ego enough and eventually they will spill their guts about just about anything. The most important aspect of any interrogation is establishing a dialogue with your interogatee. You can't get angry. You can't personalize anything. This tactic would not work right away. In fact you'd probably have to put up with several hours of snobby responses or lack of response at all. As long as you keep your cool though it doesn't give them the satisfaction of knowing they got to you. That is enough to bolster anyone's confidence. You don't even necessarily have to talk about the thing you want to know about right away. If you get a good dialogue going you can actually make them bring up the subject first if you are skillful enough in steering the conversation. Interrogation these days is all about psychology and mind games not torture and physical threats.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Teklord
Actually physical discomfort is a very effective way to gain cooperation or information from an individual. It may not be the most time efficient though but everyone has a breaking point it is only a matter of time needed to get to that point. Just like everyone has their price, which of itself can be used to gain information.
Nah that's just not true. You beat someone enough and they will tell you what you want to hear. They will tell you they wear ladie's underwear if it will get you to stop hitting them. Interrogation is about getting useful information. Torture also cultivates a sense of apathy which has to be avoided at all costs. If they resign themselves to their fate then what incentive do they have to cooperate? The closest an interrogator should ever come to torture is what they call "self inflicted pain". It's not really self inflicted pain but you never lay a hand on the person. A common example is making someone stand up for extended periods of time. Not so terrible eh? Try doing it for twelve hours, twenty four hours, 36 hours. It hurts bad. the whole time the interrogator will say things like." You know you are only doing this to yourself. If you would just cooperate we'd bring you a chair and let you sit down." This turns the interrogatee's stubborness into the torturer and not the interogator, thus allowing a dialogue to be maintained.You beat someone physically and you personalize the entire interrogation in their mind and they'll refuse to cooperate out of spite or if they do cooperate they will likely give out useless information or the quality of their information will be suspect and require more backchecking which in turn takes up more time.

EDIT: Apologies in advance for the off topic. Call it the knowledgeable's need to instruct.

hks

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

lets farm green {lfg} tc alliance

W/R

this sucks bad for you para but i know who this guy is its the same guy who postedts on this form right( banishd ) lol he did it too me also and he does it by putting keyloggers on website wich shoud be bot farmers but in real they are keylogger i know his email its bani teh monk he think hes a hacker but he realy doesnt now jack you gonna get yourt acount back if you fax the copy of the cd-key .. if it is any comfort we played atrick to this bani 1 of our girlfriend did as if she was intrested in him and he put his webcam on she was telling him he shoud wear his hair like this or like that lol then she said we said hi and we waved at the webcam so funny guys is uber nerd :P well thing is i was lucky i have like 5 acounts so when he came online i knew and coud change others but i used 1 email at that time so he did have that and changed it but got it back afterwerds
soo i replied to a-net for you with this they where gonna investigate my case so i sent tyhem another link for your post also since its the same email
and bani gg

Haggard

Haggard

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

Urmston, Manchester, UK

Greener Pastures [DVDF]

W/Rt

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pillz_veritas
Possibility 1: Program with a Keylogger Was used to get your passwords to Both email and GW (Or you used the SAME password for both)
Bugger!
*runs off to change all my passwords*

lyra_song

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

http://reviews.designtechnica.com/review1541.html

For the more extreme of us.

I hope that in a few years, this kind of technology becomes STANDARD on home PCs.

Hope you get it back Para

undeadpolice

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2006

W/N

But it still works sometimes beating ppl up is the only way...

undeadpolice

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2006

W/N

btw how would u feel if a hacker got away/stolen with your items that is worth 10k(real money) and his laughing at it.

undeadpolice

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2006

W/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by jules


So.. uh.. what's the best way to 'persuade' a hacker to cooperate?
lol thats funny if he does i might let him go and give them some items along for cooperating.(of coz that will never happen)

Teklord

Teklord

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Lloyd.ab.ca

Lords of All

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by undeadpolice
btw how would u feel if a hacker got away/stolen with your items that is worth 10k(real money) and his laughing at it.
I hope by 'items' you are referring to real world items, like say "Plasma TV" or the like (and therefore by hacker you mean theif commiting B&E). Because no virtual in-game items of any kind from any game is worth $10,000 in real world cash. Althought this doesn't discount that there are likely some people out there with more money than brains and believes virtual items can be worth that much real cash...

Cottage Pie

Cottage Pie

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

Birmingham, England

Taking Aegis

Mo/Me

I once had £3.1k worth of gold on an RPG character (runescape). and there were plenty of bigger fish in the sea than me. 10K in theory is definately possible, but for one actual item?

All I can say is req 7 15% always crystalline sword. Technically that sword is priceless in terms of GWs economy, no items could be traded for it, so it would take a real world amount of cash...people have spent more than $10k dollars on a computer game before...It's not impossible, it's insane, but not impossible ^_^.

Mako

Mako

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

Midgar - Sector 7

Star Scar Reunion [VII]

N/Me

I had a keylogger on my comp dunno how I got it but I found it through this program called taskmanager (not the default windows one) the Icon was a toaster, it was at a 99% Danger risk so I disabled and deleted it from the windows folder, hasnt been running since. I googled the exe filename to see what it was and I found a lot of info about it, all bundled up it was used to steal passwords and such "keylogger", Glad I deleted it, Hopefully I didnt give it enough time to get my stuff but I think im clear, Still able to log my account and never get kicked like that, ever!

Corinthian

Corinthian

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2005

Always use different PW's for every login.

banishd

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

Ivy League [IVY]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by hks
this sucks bad for you para but i know who this guy is its the same guy who postedts on this form right( banishd ) lol he did it too me also and he does it by putting keyloggers on website wich shoud be bot farmers but in real they are keylogger i know his email its bani teh monk he think hes a hacker but he realy doesnt now jack you gonna get yourt acount back if you fax the copy of the cd-key .. if it is any comfort we played atrick to this bani 1 of our girlfriend did as if she was intrested in him and he put his webcam on she was telling him he shoud wear his hair like this or like that lol then she said we said hi and we waved at the webcam so funny guys is uber nerd :P well thing is i was lucky i have like 5 acounts so when he came online i knew and coud change others but i used 1 email at that time so he did have that and changed it but got it back afterwerds
soo i replied to a-net for you with this they where gonna investigate my case so i sent tyhem another link for your post also since its the same email
and bani gg
????

i dont recall this

and this one time
rabbits fell from the sky
and taught me spanish

Savio

Savio

Teenager with attitude

Join Date: Jul 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

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