Shiro Tagachi - assassin or warrior?

Tingi

Tingi

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Join Date: Dec 2005

Mo/

When I saw the Factions Cinematic i was like "oh awsome assassins own!". But it Shiro an assassins or a warrior:

Is he an Assassin? - He wields 2 blades, His eyes glowed assassins colours at the begining, when he dies hes shrouded in assassin colours (red/purply/orange).

Is he a warrior? - he's wielding SWORDS not daggers, he's pretty big (not that has much to do with it but i couldnt think of anything else)

I would prefer his to be an assassin jst to make factions seem cooler.

Wat do u think?

Tingi

Tingi

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Mo/

oh yea and he "assassinated" the emporer

Theos

Theos

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River Dancing

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Me/E

He, and all of the people who fought him excluding Visu, were Warriors. Visu was an assassin, and the four dead Ritualists were... well Ritualists.

Avarre

Avarre

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Singapore Armed Forces

Hes a warrior. He uses two large swords, and just uses the skill Hundred Blades in the cinematic to rip everyone up. He moves with more force than finesse, and an assassin devastatingly outstripped him.

He also has armor...

Eldin

Eldin

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America. How about you, commie?

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I agree with Avarre - definitely a warrior. Just because he was smart enough to strike down the emperor while he was busy praying doesn't mean he has the stealth of an assassin. The dual sword action when the guards flooded in was definitely warrior-like.

Sagaris

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Netherlands.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Avarre
Hes a warrior. He uses two large swords, and just uses the skill Hundred Blades in the cinematic to rip everyone up. He moves with more force than finesse, and an assassin devastatingly outstripped him.

He also has armor...
OMG! Major plothole! There was no Rurik in those days! Where the hell did he get 100 blades! OMFG H4X!!!

Avarre

Avarre

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Since most humans are descended from a certain point, perhaps they just happened to be an example of parallel evolution. It stands to reason that if someone was born in Tyria with 100b, likewise in Cantha.

kalvon

kalvon

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Join Date: Dec 2005

soldiers of heaven

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He could be a Warrior/Assassin.

Eclair

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

I just hope when we fight him in the game, he's not a hammer warrior =/

Syi

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W/Mo

He and Devona are in their own special professions. D:

Ira Blinks

Banned

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who cares, Talon will own him anyway :P

Misc Merik

Misc Merik

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Ira Blinks who cares, Talon will own him anyway :P
/agree

Avicara are easily the meanest monsters in the game why wouldnt talon be able to beat down Shiro.

Dahnel

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Talon for president

Fred Kiwi

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[cola]

free cake for talon

Hella Good

Hella Good

Desert Nomad

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None, free and clear

No he isn't an assassins, he isn't a warrior either, he is a mad hairdresser who murdered the Emperor for wearing a hood thus covering the masterful hair-do he fixed the Emperor with. That day he murdered the Emperor, Shiro had a reaaaaaaaal bad hair day, as you can see from the video.

Nevin

Nevin

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I think hes just plain evil... Thats like saying, What was the Lich? A Necromancer?

Lawnmower

Lawnmower

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Join Date: Mar 2006

W/R

the girl from guild wars cores cinematic also dual wielded swords...

perhaps there will be a dual wielding swords class in a later proffesion?

Josh

Josh

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D/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sagaris
OMG! Major plothole! There was no Rurik in those days! Where the hell did he get 100 blades! OMFG H4X!!!
LMFAO I laughed when I read that, nice.

Btw, he's W/A.

Nevin, the Lich was Necromancer/Queer/SplitPersonalitymancer.

Omega X

Omega X

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Boston Guild[BG]

W/Me

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Originally Posted by Josh
LMFAO I laughed when I read that, nice.

Btw, he's W/A.

Nevin, the Lich was Necromancer/Queer/SplitPersonalitymancer.
Hundred Blades...Heh, and I thought I was halucinating. HE made me watch the cinematic again just to make sure it wasn't.

Avarre

Avarre

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Singapore Armed Forces

Quote:
Originally Posted by kalvon
He could be a Warrior/Assassin.
He's not. When the emperor dies, see all that blue light he draws in? Communing with the dead is either Necro or Ritualist, and bright blue is Ritualist color.

None of his attacks are assassin, he just happens to have the item 'Dual Ancient Swords of Defence' (he blocks a few times, so thats my best guess).

Hes W/Ri.

Snowman

Snowman

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2005

Wales, UK

Devils Scorpions

W/E

no no.. look at his armour, that shoulder peice gives it away as Ranger Armour..

with the swords indicating warrior..

My Vote is Ranger/Warrior.

As for all the power that he absorbs.. well, if you notice they are surrounded by ritualist who are chanting, and they all have their head gear on.

Its obviously some big ceremony that is going on, and Shiro kills the guy releasing all that power into the nearest person, being him.

I suspect thats why all the rits die so quick as well, they have no energy left.

Vermilion Okeanos

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Join Date: Feb 2005

Obviously he was a mesemer. No one was able to touch him when his unlimited distortion was up. Until the assassin got lucky and hit through the 75% dodge.

He also planned the assassination of the emperor like how mesemer plan a monk's death. No one knew what the mesemer was doing until the monk start screaming.

Illusion of haste with 33% speed, that ritualist didn't even see it comming.

Two handed IW slicing through everyone's armor like the armor wasn't there in the first place.

The moment his IW get strip, two warriors rushed in and send him to the grave. (if he was a warrior, he wouldn't have get own so fast, at the moment after he lost his weapons)

Face it... HE IS MESEMER!
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Ok, done with the absurd.

I would say he is a warrior if one must categorize him with human playable class.

If anything, he is same class as the flame djin. With primary of a monster, and 2ndary of a warrior. something like that...

Thallandor

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Singapore

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My guess would be that hes an assassin, i remember there was a assassin boss close to the starting area in the FPE using a pair of Eternal (swords?) that matches the same length as shiro's dual (sword?).

This is a wild guess but it seems to point towards the possbility of "daggers" that would have skins that are as long as perhaps shortswords giving the perception of dual weilding sword. Let us pray together now that this will be so.

Avarre

Avarre

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Thallandor
My guess would be that hes an assassin, i remember there was a assassin boss close to the starting area in the FPE using a pair of Eternal (swords?) that matches the same length as shiro's dual (sword?).

This is a wild guess but it seems to point towards the possbility of "daggers" that would have skins that are as long as perhaps shortswords giving the perception of dual weilding sword. Let us pray together now that this will be so.
Except the swords he uses are each around 3-4 feet long, the standard length of a longsword. (1:42 of the video, when he's holding swords outwards. Also when the champions pick the swords up).

It's possible we will, in the future, receieve the prefix 'dual' which allows double wielding. He uses the skill hundred blades, riposte, wears armor, yells loudly, moves heavily and not stealthly, and he has blue soul draining energy. Why is this even a discussion?

EDIT : Eh, more to the point, why would the personal bodyguard of the emperor be an assassin?

Raxxman

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Join Date: Dec 2005

TEOC

W/N

Uh... HB and Riposte are proph skills... as is Glads defense.

He just used the pre nerf to boost his attack speed to 166% by IWAYing and TF. It was 2,000 years ago

Warrior ranger

Thallandor

Thallandor

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Singapore

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hmm good point, he does seem more warrior like. Hopefully the day will come warriors will get the 'dual' prefix without creating too much unbalance in the game.

Personal bodyguards would often be related to warrior types usually, but in Feudal Japan, damiyos have been known to have been protected by Shinobi (Not necessary Ninja assassins) which also takes up paramiltary policing work in times of peace.

Snowman

Snowman

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Raxxman
Uh... HB and Riposte are proph skills... as is Glads defense.

He just used the pre nerf to boost his attack speed to 166% by IWAYing and TF. It was 2,000 years ago

Warrior ranger
He's too slim and lean to be a warrior, whos main attribute is strength.

Plus he has all this long hair on the go... along with the fact that his armour doesnt look heavy and warrior like..

I still say Ranger Warrior.

Avarre

Avarre

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I think we're agreed that warrior fits in, and not assassin, however. Whether his second part is ritualist (secondary) or ranger (primary) is something that's a bit hard to tell. Still say W/Ri though

After he gets slashed by Visu, his turning around movement is fairly bulky and slow, not a whirling-around like I'd expect from a ranger.

Snowman

Snowman

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Avarre
After he gets slashed by Visu, his turning around movement is fairly bulky and slow, not a whirling-around like I'd expect from a ranger.
well, yea, the swords give away the warrior bit.

you dont really know how all this immense power pouring out of his slit wrists effect the control he has over his body.. after all he didnt seem able to make any attempt to defend himself from the double final thrust

Rhedd

Rhedd

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Let's see... He's got armor with little skulls and horns on it, his face is covered in ritual scarring, and every time he kills someone, he absorbs their souls, making him more powerful...

Oh, yeah, I'm sure he's either a Warrior or an Assassin, I just can't figure out whicNECROMANCER!

Never try to guess the class of a villain based on their weapon. Villains are allowed to do anything that looks cool. Like duel wield.

Necromancer.

heavy metal rules

heavy metal rules

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{bkr} bad karma ressurection

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i think he was a combo of all the classes, but what do i really care, not like it really matters...j/k

i believe he was killed by the +9 ogre slaying knife

Tingi

Tingi

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Mo/

ah i agree. he must be an ogre!

Nevin

Nevin

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vermilion Okeanos
Obviously he was a mesemer. No one was able to touch him when his unlimited distortion was up. Until the assassin got lucky and hit through the 75% dodge.

He also planned the assassination of the emperor like how mesemer plan a monk's death. No one knew what the mesemer was doing until the monk start screaming.

Illusion of haste with 33% speed, that ritualist didn't even see it comming.

Two handed IW slicing through everyone's armor like the armor wasn't there in the first place.

The moment his IW get strip, two warriors rushed in and send him to the grave. (if he was a warrior, he wouldn't have get own so fast, at the moment after he lost his weapons)

Face it... HE IS MESEMER!
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Ok, done with the absurd.

I would say he is a warrior if one must categorize him with human playable class.

If anything, he is same class as the flame djin. With primary of a monster, and 2ndary of a warrior. something like that...
The Assassin used Fox Fangs and Nine Tail Strike. Finally they have a purpose!

Cirian

Cirian

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Join Date: Oct 2005

European Union

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From the screenshot forum (link)

Oh looky, just like Shiro

Assassin boss dual wielding swords.



He also appears to be dead

lord-jan

lord-jan

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[Dark]

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Whateva Assassins rule , check the skills they have on gameamp for example
RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing solo fights baby

Anarion Silverhand

Anarion Silverhand

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Seeing how he killed about 10-15 guards in like 30 seconds, it reminds me of the Diablo II Skill: Whirlwind .


And I agree with Avarre; he's definately a warrior. Warlord perhaps?

#EDIT#:
Did anyone notice the way he turns around when he's about to kill the last Ritualist? He doesn't turn like a warrior, but more arrogant and stylish. Perhaps a ranger or assassin?

CKaz

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2005

well that helps the mesmer argument again...

Dark Suoon

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The Organization of Dawn [DAWN]

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hes either assassin/necro or Warrior/necro end of story!

Avarre

Avarre

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Anarion Silverhand
Seeing how he killed about 10-15 guards in like 30 seconds, it reminds me of the Diablo II Skill: Whirlwind .


And I agree with Avarre; he's definately a warrior. Warlord perhaps?

#EDIT#:
Did anyone notice the way he turns around when he's about to kill the last Ritualist? He doesn't turn like a warrior, but more arrogant and stylish. Perhaps a ranger or assassin?
He could be an assassin with Runeword:Chaos weapons to use whirlwind

But those are for 'sin claws only

Anyways... well most warriors are arrogant (WIT MENDING I TANK ALL!). In any case, the man took on a huge group of enemies just after that, he has a right to have a little swagger.

He's still W/X (X = ranger/necro/rit/sin) though in my view.

Cirian

Cirian

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Join Date: Oct 2005

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His overall hair and armour are quite ranger-ish to me, so I'd go for a R/A to build an actual likeness of him with a player character.

As far as the story goes though, well he has to be one of the new classes really From past experience of the Lich, I'll say he's a L30 Assassin with a few monster-only skills