Echo Sig of Cap?
Wretchman Drake
Just a question, if you cast echo then hit Sig of Capture, but cancel out of the capping menu, will it be duplicated on your echo spot for use? It would be kinda neat to cap 2 skills on one run despite the fact you either gotta be a Mesmer primary or secondary to use Echo.
sno
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Originally Posted by Wretchman Drake
It would be kinda neat to cap 2 skills on one run
besides the fact that I have no idea what the answer to your question is, an alternative to that would simply be to bring 2 signets of capture, if you wanted to cap 2 skills... or perhaps, 6 signets of capture, depending on where you are and how good you are with henchies 
November Raine
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Originally Posted by Wretchman Drake
Just a question, if you cast echo then hit Sig of Capture, but cancel out of the capping menu, will it be duplicated on your echo spot for use? It would be kinda neat to cap 2 skills on one run despite the fact you either gotta be a Mesmer primary or secondary to use Echo.
1. i doubt that would work, what would happened when you get an elite from your echo spot? where does echo go?
2. you can already carry more then 1 cap sig, i've capped as many as 6 at a time (perdition rock)
3. i'd highly doubt you'd be in a close enough area to copy cap sig then run over to another boss use the echo'd cap sig.
either way, nice idea.
2. you can already carry more then 1 cap sig, i've capped as many as 6 at a time (perdition rock)
3. i'd highly doubt you'd be in a close enough area to copy cap sig then run over to another boss use the echo'd cap sig.
either way, nice idea.
SincorpDeath
okayyyy.. i hope i have the right answer to this. I was thinking of a build for a 4v4 random arena that would involve echoing a rez signet, but then i remembered that ANET is very literal in its skill descriptions. Therefore, I read the description for arcane echo, and it will mimic the next "SPELL" that is cast, therefore, i realized that my echo sig shouldn't work, along with your cap sig, seeing as how, a "sig" is in fact a signet skill, and not a spell. I may be wrong, and I even hope i am, cuz then i could exploit this for free cap sigs, but i'm pretty sure i'm right :/.
Wretchman Drake
I know I was just wondering if it was possible I wouldn't do it since I hate being a mesmer in PvE. Just toying around with some skills and their possibilities...
sno
@Sincorp: The question is not about arcane echo, it's about Echo, the elite spell, which clearly says "skill" and works with signets.
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Jiao Yang
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Originally Posted by sno
theres a spot in perdition rock where you fight 2 bosses together.
Theres a couple of spots I think.. and yes that would be the best place to try this out. I cant btw.. all my PvE chars have every skill from perdition rock.
Theres a couple of spots I think.. and yes that would be the best place to try this out. I cant btw.. all my PvE chars have every skill from perdition rock.
koneko
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Originally Posted by Wretchman Drake
Just a question, if you cast echo then hit Sig of Capture, but cancel out of the capping menu, will it be duplicated on your echo spot for use? It would be kinda neat to cap 2 skills on one run despite the fact you either gotta be a Mesmer primary or secondary to use Echo.
Just tested on my Mo/Me. Doesn't work. Echo doesn't change once you hit Signet of Capture.
Pay no attention to the awful skills on the skillbar.
Edit: sigh, GuildWiki's page on Echo already mentions this...I could've saved a plat. Meh.
Pay no attention to the awful skills on the skillbar.
Edit: sigh, GuildWiki's page on Echo already mentions this...I could've saved a plat. Meh.
Mister Muhkuh
yep, doesnt work.
LouAl
just to be clear.
Echo {e} + Res Sig DOES work
BUT you have to wait for 2 dead teammates so it is very situational. I did use it on the Defend N. Kryta quest once as during that quest multiple party members seem to go down at the same time...
too bad on the echo + cap sig tho
I suppose you could also use archane echo, then echo, then res sig, then other echo, then res sig, then res sig again to get 3 uses of your res sig but that would be stupid...
Echo {e} + Res Sig DOES work
BUT you have to wait for 2 dead teammates so it is very situational. I did use it on the Defend N. Kryta quest once as during that quest multiple party members seem to go down at the same time...
too bad on the echo + cap sig tho
I suppose you could also use archane echo, then echo, then res sig, then other echo, then res sig, then res sig again to get 3 uses of your res sig but that would be stupid...
SincorpDeath
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Originally Posted by sno
@Sincorp: The question is not about arcane echo, it's about Echo, the elite spell, which clearly says "skill" and works with signets.
Good sir, you are correct. Guess I misread it 
. But after thinking over it being possible in the first place.. it would be too much of an exploit, as you could simply buy one signet and use it repeatedly.
. But after thinking over it being possible in the first place.. it would be too much of an exploit, as you could simply buy one signet and use it repeatedly.
Tarkin
Just try it, dont work... and it will be funny if work because you will active the cap sig and echo it... cancel first cap sig and active the echo cap sig, and cap any skill elite or not, you will lost the skill from the skill bar but the skill will remain... and you can repeat the process... will take lots of skills from bosses from free skill points... but sadly you cant echo cap sig... can echo any other signet... not cap sig...
TehTomato
can't echo res sig.
Wretchman Drake
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Originally Posted by TehTomato
can't echo res sig.
Yeah you can.
LightningHell
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Originally Posted by LouAl
I suppose you could also use archane echo, then echo, then res sig, then other echo, then res sig, then res sig again to get 3 uses of your res sig but that would be stupid...
Last time I saw, Arcane Echo ended whenever you didn't use a non-spell-skill...
Francis Crawford
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Originally Posted by LightningHell
Last time I saw, Arcane Echo ended whenever you didn't use a non-spell-skill...
Isn't Echo a spell? That's what he was Arcane Echoing.
Francis Crawford
Or if you really want to be goofy, bring a friend and bring Arcane Mimickry, and mimic his Echo. Then Echo your Glyph of Renewal.
Only works on spells, however.
Only works on spells, however.
LouAl
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Originally Posted by LightningHell
Last time I saw, Arcane Echo ended whenever you didn't use a non-spell-skill...
Yeah, I meant to use the Archane echo, then echo {e}, then res sig, then the other echo {e} that you copied with archane, then copied res sig, and then your last copied res sig.........
it is too stupid to use but it would work
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for the record, you most certainly CAN echo res sig
it is too stupid to use but it would work
EDIT:
for the record, you most certainly CAN echo res sig
bath
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Originally Posted by SincorpDeath
okayyyy.. i hope i have the right answer to this. I was thinking of a build for a 4v4 random arena that would involve echoing a rez signet, but then i remembered that ANET is very literal in its skill descriptions. Therefore, I read the description for arcane echo, and it will mimic the next "SPELL" that is cast, therefore, i realized that my echo sig shouldn't work, along with your cap sig, seeing as how, a "sig" is in fact a signet skill, and not a spell. I may be wrong, and I even hope i am, cuz then i could exploit this for free cap sigs, but i'm pretty sure i'm right :/.
if u take echo[E]arcane echo and res sig use arcne echo echo u now have to echosuse res sig the echo 2 and mall la 3 resses haha it works
Dougal Kronik
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Originally Posted by bath
if u take echo[E]arcane echo and res sig use arcne echo echo u now have to echosuse res sig the echo 2 and mall la 3 resses haha it works
Sorry - I really don't know what is happening there?????????
Sorry - I really don't know what is happening there?????????
Wretchman Drake
Yeah, I don't know either. It would be nice if people spoke english =p
Dougal Kronik
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Originally Posted by koneko
Just tested on my Mo/Me. Doesn't work. Echo doesn't change once you hit Signet of Capture.
Pay no attention to the awful skills on the skillbar.
Edit: sigh, GuildWiki's page on Echo already mentions this...I could've saved a plat. Meh. Cobble Poundstone is a Warrior Boss.
Pay no attention to the awful skills on the skillbar.
Edit: sigh, GuildWiki's page on Echo already mentions this...I could've saved a plat. Meh. Cobble Poundstone is a Warrior Boss.
Wretchman Drake
... So then it hasn't been proven?
LouAl
No, it has been proven (I thought) that echo {e} does not work with cap sig, but does work with res sig.
The whole thread got sidetracked with the echo {e} + res sig and some stuff got a little confusing...
But, here is my last try at making it clear
If you cast in this order you can have 3 res signets
1. Archane Echo
then cast
2. Echo {e}
At this point your Archane Echo has turned into Echo {e} and your original Echo{e} is waiting for you to cast Res Sig
3. Now cast Res Sig
4. Then cast Echo {e} (this one was Archane but copied the Echo {e})
At this point you have used 1 Res Sig, have one avaiable to use and an Echo{e} waiting to copy the sig
5. Now cast Res Sig (this one used to be Echo{e})
6. And finally cast Res Sig again (this one used to be Archane Echo, then turned into Echo{e} and finally into Res Sig)
It is kinda stupid to do this becuase it costs you 20 energy and takes about 12 seconds to finish...
hope that helps
The whole thread got sidetracked with the echo {e} + res sig and some stuff got a little confusing...
But, here is my last try at making it clear
If you cast in this order you can have 3 res signets
1. Archane Echo
then cast
2. Echo {e}
At this point your Archane Echo has turned into Echo {e} and your original Echo{e} is waiting for you to cast Res Sig
3. Now cast Res Sig
4. Then cast Echo {e} (this one was Archane but copied the Echo {e})
At this point you have used 1 Res Sig, have one avaiable to use and an Echo{e} waiting to copy the sig
5. Now cast Res Sig (this one used to be Echo{e})
6. And finally cast Res Sig again (this one used to be Archane Echo, then turned into Echo{e} and finally into Res Sig)
It is kinda stupid to do this becuase it costs you 20 energy and takes about 12 seconds to finish...
hope that helps