Since Gaile and the gang visits guru so often. Wouldn't it be wise to have a stickied thread in Sardlac for things that need fixing or "should" be fixed?
IT would consolidate issues to one area so that Anet knows what's actually WRONG with the game instead of having random issues sent to their Tech Support people. Which is at the moment, GARBAGE.
If not I'll make a thread and hope that enough people post in it with their problems that it gets stickied by a mod.
List of demands(or bugs that need fixing)
Omega X
Omega X
22 views and no one has anything to say?
Inde
Well, in order to make the thread useful they would need to be confirmed bugs (in other words mentioned more than once and verified) and how do we stop the spam and discussion in the thread? If we wanted something as a truly useful bug report for ArenaNet I would consider having all the posts either moderated and then upon approval put into that section or just a daily deletion of posts. The problem that lies with that is that people would get upset if their bug didn't make it in or their post was deleted.
So the questions remain, how do we stop 'discussion' of the bugs. And how do we go about verifying that they are bugs and not just someone's computer, video card, etc. Give me some more details on this and we can see about doing it.
So the questions remain, how do we stop 'discussion' of the bugs. And how do we go about verifying that they are bugs and not just someone's computer, video card, etc. Give me some more details on this and we can see about doing it.
Mercury Angel
2-thread deal?
Thread #1 = Closed sticky managed by a moderator or administrator, providing a list of current confirmed bugs [With links to the post in Thread #2 that demonstrates it]
Thread #2 = Unofficial bugs list with minimal moderation where the info is gleaned from for addition into thread #1 Posters should seek to document their bugs thoroughly, provide clear concise examples, and when possible, provide screenshots for simple bugs, or Fraps/other screen capture clips for more complex bugs. Without such evidence to demonstrate a bug, it would have to remain with 'unconfirmed' status in the list in Thread #2.
There's also a question of reporting 'features', that may or may not be bugs, and are working properly in all other respects, such as Ward Against Harm and Ward Against Elements, which, unlike Ward Against Melee and Ward Against Foes, have a .75 second aftercast, whilst the latter 2 have a 1.75 second aftercast (as is typical of PbAoE spells).
Thread #1 = Closed sticky managed by a moderator or administrator, providing a list of current confirmed bugs [With links to the post in Thread #2 that demonstrates it]
Thread #2 = Unofficial bugs list with minimal moderation where the info is gleaned from for addition into thread #1 Posters should seek to document their bugs thoroughly, provide clear concise examples, and when possible, provide screenshots for simple bugs, or Fraps/other screen capture clips for more complex bugs. Without such evidence to demonstrate a bug, it would have to remain with 'unconfirmed' status in the list in Thread #2.
There's also a question of reporting 'features', that may or may not be bugs, and are working properly in all other respects, such as Ward Against Harm and Ward Against Elements, which, unlike Ward Against Melee and Ward Against Foes, have a .75 second aftercast, whilst the latter 2 have a 1.75 second aftercast (as is typical of PbAoE spells).
Omega X
I doubt that there would be a dedicated forum torward bugs in game so I suggested a thread or two dedicated to it.
There is currently nothing stopping bug threads from being post all throughout the forums. I was just trying to organize an effort to help ANET track down things that need to be fixed instead on just relying on the weak Tech Support department or the random in-game bug submissions to send relevant issues.
There is currently nothing stopping bug threads from being post all throughout the forums. I was just trying to organize an effort to help ANET track down things that need to be fixed instead on just relying on the weak Tech Support department or the random in-game bug submissions to send relevant issues.
Symeon
Good idea. Currently, all bugs are posted either in Technician's Corner, or occasionally when there is a mass error or there are specific events going on such as the preview, in Riverside Inn.
Myself, I would support the idea of a bug subforum attached to Technician's Corner, and Gaile/other ANet visitors being notified of it. Separate threads could be made to discuss the bugs and their exact content, and the aim of making the threads would be to try to state how they should be fixed. A sticky thread could be created listing the bugs with links to the threads, so that the same bugs are not posted again and again and the information is easily available to ANet. The sticky could then be edited as bugs are dealt with or no longer apply, and we could encourage Gaile to try to inform us on this.
Myself, I would support the idea of a bug subforum attached to Technician's Corner, and Gaile/other ANet visitors being notified of it. Separate threads could be made to discuss the bugs and their exact content, and the aim of making the threads would be to try to state how they should be fixed. A sticky thread could be created listing the bugs with links to the threads, so that the same bugs are not posted again and again and the information is easily available to ANet. The sticky could then be edited as bugs are dealt with or no longer apply, and we could encourage Gaile to try to inform us on this.
Wrath Of Dragons
I think with careful moderation of peoples submitted bugs, with documentation and screnies and all. i know i come here when i find a bug, not to tech support....this is easier, and i get feedback from others too.
more work on the moderaters part tho, especailly if you pre-screen all posts before actually posting.
more work on the moderaters part tho, especailly if you pre-screen all posts before actually posting.
Omega X
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more work on the moderaters part tho, especailly if you pre-screen all posts before actually posting.
Not necessarily. Discussion of the bugs in a Bugs subforum by people who experience them will determine what is and what isn't a bug. All bogus bugs will simply die out by the amount of others that prove that it wasn't a bug.
The only thing that moderators would have to worry about is a sticky of most common bugs and the occasional flame fest like usual. Repeat reports can automatically be locked because the moderators would know what was already on the "Most Common Bugs" list.
The only thing that moderators would have to worry about is a sticky of most common bugs and the occasional flame fest like usual. Repeat reports can automatically be locked because the moderators would know what was already on the "Most Common Bugs" list.
Omega X
So I guess the non response from the Forum Gods means no right?
Wrath Of Dragons
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Originally Posted by Omega X
Not necessarily. Discussion of the bugs in a Bugs subforum by people who experience them will determine what is and what isn't a bug. All bogus bugs will simply die out by the amount of others that prove that it wasn't a bug.
The only thing that moderators would have to worry about is a sticky of most common bugs and the occasional flame fest like usual. Repeat reports can automatically be locked because the moderators would know what was already on the "Most Common Bugs" list. by "pre-screening" i meant that most forums have an option to only allow posts that a mod approves. the posts go into a holding place untill a mod looks over them and approves it.
The only thing that moderators would have to worry about is a sticky of most common bugs and the occasional flame fest like usual. Repeat reports can automatically be locked because the moderators would know what was already on the "Most Common Bugs" list. by "pre-screening" i meant that most forums have an option to only allow posts that a mod approves. the posts go into a holding place untill a mod looks over them and approves it.
Omega X
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Originally Posted by Wrath Of Dragons
by "pre-screening" i meant that most forums have an option to only allow posts that a mod approves. the posts go into a holding place untill a mod looks over them and approves it.
Yeah. But I was saying that moderators wouldn't need to pre screen much if it was a valid bug. Since a number of people would be experiencing it and can post their experiences and data along with it.
A bug forum for discussion of bugs and a couple of locked stickies with the list of valid bugs people would be experiencing. That way, anet would only have to look at the stickies and see what was affecting players the most.
A bug forum for discussion of bugs and a couple of locked stickies with the list of valid bugs people would be experiencing. That way, anet would only have to look at the stickies and see what was affecting players the most.