Gwen Breakthrough in pre-searing...?

Homicidal Brainiac

Homicidal Brainiac

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

New Zealand [NZL]

Hundred Companions [HC]

while mucking around in pre, I stumbled across an NPC near the Rez point outside of Ashford, Her name was Sarah. When I talked to her, she said something along the lines of
"Drat, looks like I'm out of *something* weeds again, I'd better go look for some"
She was stationary, i.e. not moving in any direction for a very long time.

My char, being a monk, got Gwen to say "*someone* and my mother are both healers, except *someone* heals with magic, and my mother uses herbs"

Gwen later said "how am I supposed to get home now?"

Is there some connection between these 2 NPCs?

When I realized this, I got Gwen to follow me, and tryed to find Sarah, however, by the time I got to where Sarah was, she had disappeared. Strange.

any insight on this?

TheMosesPHD

TheMosesPHD

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2006

Oregon

Mo Mo Patty Blinks [MoMo]

R/

Sarah is Gwen's mother.

Homicidal Brainiac

Homicidal Brainiac

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

New Zealand [NZL]

Hundred Companions [HC]

yes, but could this be some Pre-searing sub-plot?

TheMosesPHD

TheMosesPHD

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2006

Oregon

Mo Mo Patty Blinks [MoMo]

R/

Sarah doesn't really do anything in presear but talk. You can find her later on in the game after she's dead in the underworld, and there are random rumors about using items that drop to open up some random quest or something after clearing the underworld, but nothing confirmed. Don't think about it too much. When I first got the game I thought I'd be the one to find the secret behind Gwen but she's actually just part of a broken quest that may or may not be completed later on.

-Loki-

-Loki-

Forge Runner

Join Date: Oct 2005

I wouldn't call it a broken quest, which implies it's finished but not working. It appears they just put some Gwen based items in, but never got around to actually putting the quest in.

Silent Kitty

Silent Kitty

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

Netherlands

[TYW] "The Young World"

A/Me

You can still use Gwen's flute for +1 energy

Haggard

Haggard

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

Urmston, Manchester, UK

Greener Pastures [DVDF]

W/Rt

If a HoD sword sells for 500k, and gives +5 uconditional, therefore the flute must be worth 100k!!

Disclaimer: The above post is in no way serious.

Cottage Pie

Cottage Pie

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

Birmingham, England

Taking Aegis

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Haggard
If a HoD sword sells for 500k, and gives +5 uconditional, therefore the flute must be worth 100k!!

Disclaimer: The above post is in no way serious.
OMG nerf the flute!

Rayea

Rayea

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

west yorkshire, Uk

Sisters of Serenity

N/Mo

are you telling my that that tatty little busted flute is an off hand item? o.0
i can use it, or are you meaning the one back in pre sear...

Savio

Savio

Teenager with attitude

Join Date: Jul 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rayea
are you telling my that that tatty little busted flute is an off hand item? o.0
i can use it, or are you meaning the one back in pre sear...
You can equip either the Flute or Broken Flute as an offhand. The Broken Flute doesn't do anything as far as anyone knows, and the Flute gives a nice +1 energy.

Rayea

Rayea

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

west yorkshire, Uk

Sisters of Serenity

N/Mo

well that explains why she wants a fixed flute back lol....she realy must be thinking of being a fire ele then ^^

fiery

fiery

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2005

maryland

InYurFace Gaming [IYF]

R/

NO Gwen wants to be a monk, eles are nukers, bad against weeds, unless your ready to toke one. Other than that shes gunna be an uber tank.

Pyrrhus Sol

Pyrrhus Sol

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Feb 2006

Charter Vanguard [CV]

E/Mo

Gwen is already a nuker, if you haven't seen that old video from beta where she destroys everyone..

fiery

fiery

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2005

maryland

InYurFace Gaming [IYF]

R/

Jajajajajjaja Combustion attack.

boxterduke

boxterduke

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

Walking the ruins of Ascalon

DVDF

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Homicidal Brainiac
while mucking around in pre, I stumbled across an NPC near the Rez point outside of Ashford, Her name was Sarah. When I talked to her, she said something along the lines of
"Drat, looks like I'm out of *something* weeds again, I'd better go look for some"
She was stationary, i.e. not moving in any direction for a very long time.

My char, being a monk, got Gwen to say "*someone* and my mother are both healers, except *someone* heals with magic, and my mother uses herbs"

Gwen later said "how am I supposed to get home now?"

Is there some connection between these 2 NPCs?

When I realized this, I got Gwen to follow me, and tryed to find Sarah, however, by the time I got to where Sarah was, she had disappeared. Strange.

any insight on this?
Been to UW yet?
If not then when you go there, pay attention to one of the ghosts as soon as you enter UW
Surprise.

Homicidal Brainiac

Homicidal Brainiac

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

New Zealand [NZL]

Hundred Companions [HC]

bah, yes I have :P

I'm just saying, can u bring Gwen to Sarah/Vice-versa in order to complete some hidden quest (e.g. Farmer Dirk's hogs)? If so, does this branch on to other quests in pre-searing?

Hermessar

Hermessar

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2006

Belgium

We Are Too Cute In [Pink]

Me/

So what's this curtain (red fabric) item I got from gwen in pre-searing for?
Been carrying it all the way through the game without knowing why

Tarkin

Tarkin

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

W/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rayea
well that explains why she wants a fixed flute back lol....she realy must be thinking of being a fire ele then ^^
LOL really very good point...

Haggard

Haggard

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

Urmston, Manchester, UK

Greener Pastures [DVDF]

W/Rt

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hermessar
So what's this curtain (red fabric) item I got from gwen in pre-searing for?
Been carrying it all the way through the game without knowing why
The Tapesty Shard - has no in game uses... yet

Fist_of_God

Fist_of_God

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hermessar
So what's this curtain (red fabric) item I got from gwen in pre-searing for?
Been carrying it all the way through the game without knowing why

I use it while farming Aatxes in the UW, kinda makes me feel like a bull fighter. You might also find it useful while fighting the dreaded bulls/cows we call minotars.

Plague

Plague

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

N/E

I'd hate to think that sometime much later, maybe in Chapter... 10 or something, Gwen finally has a use that nets you the most impressive armor in the game, and you have to have that stupid tapestry shred to get it.

Charqus

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

Mo/

Gwen is just a biiiig mystery that people waste to much time on.... I dont think it does much atm but it could be possible anet could make a patch to do with it but somehow i doubt it

Silent Kitty

Silent Kitty

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

Netherlands

[TYW] "The Young World"

A/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Plague
I'd hate to think that sometime much later, maybe in Chapter... 10 or something, Gwen finally has a use that nets you the most impressive armor in the game, and you have to have that stupid tapestry shred to get it.
At that time, you simply create a new character, get the tapestry in pre and your problem is solved

Takkun

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

I dont want to give too much away. But do you really think Anet would just leave a broken quest in the game for this long?

Tarkin

Tarkin

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

W/N

Gwen is Devil, lets burn... before she destroy us...

Carinae

Carinae

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

Inside

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Takkun
I dont want to give too much away. But do you really think Anet would just leave a broken quest in the game for this long?
You seem to be implying that the Gwen situation is solvable?

J3mo

J3mo

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

NL

Please contact the Administrator if your date of birth has changed.

Mo/

Maybe talk with that cape on to Sarah in UW

R. Mindwalker

R. Mindwalker

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

Mo/Me

I tried it all. Spoke with the flute, broken flute on to Sarah in pre and in the UW but nothing happens. She doesnt respond to you.
I think its just a left over from the Beta and something for the people to fush about.

Homicidal Brainiac

Homicidal Brainiac

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

New Zealand [NZL]

Hundred Companions [HC]

I've looked into this further and discovered that Sarah doesn't in fact disappear, but instead appears at that location randomly, so just zone a couple of times and take Gwen to sarah...?

Sha Noran

Sha Noran

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

http://tinyurl.com/2jlusq

Idiot Savants [iQ]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Carinae Dragonblood
You seem to be implying that the Gwen situation is solvable?
You seem to be implying that you're very gullible?

JiggyFly

JiggyFly

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

So-Cal

Forsaken Wanderers [FW]

Mo/

It's probably some inter-governmental conspiracy. Gwen is actually a russian spy who relays information back to the motherland, either that or a druglord who uses her flutes to distribute cocaine across Tyria. Yes! That's right Gwen I'm on to you and your clever little act! You're a sly one, but your charades shall go no further, people will finally know the truth!

Lady Lozza

Lady Lozza

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

Oz

Angel Sharks

Me/N

I've cleared UW and had the flute, cape, and shred on me and NOTHING happened when I tried to talk to Sarah. It's one of those things that people had theories on and the theories became so big because no one managed to do it for ages. Then when people start doing it regularly it is already out of control, and the "truth" as it were never gets passed along.

Homicidal Brainiac

Homicidal Brainiac

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

New Zealand [NZL]

Hundred Companions [HC]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Homicidal Brainiac
I've looked into this further and discovered that Sarah doesn't in fact disappear, but instead appears at that location randomly, so just zone a couple of times and take Gwen to sarah...?

I'm talking about PRE-SEARING here, for get post-searing for now, ok?

Is the Gwen Strand solvable in Pre-searing?

Riphawk

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Mar 2006

Saskatchewan

Adventurers Refuge

R/

Hate to say it, there is nothing to solve. Gwen is just a cute girl who follows you around randomly healing you, gives you a shread of cloth because she thinks you're nice, disappears during the searing and is bound to pop back up at some point, but from all indications (including the latest from Gaille Gray) she is still missing in Factions... the broken flute you find post-searing, the tapestry shread, useless... when they become useful, drop your PvP slot long enough to grab the two and clear the academy, then just dump them in storage and be on your way.

Phaern Majes

Phaern Majes

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2005

Anywhere but up

The Panserbjorne [ROAR]

R/Mo

Pretty sure she'll show up as the Queen of Orr in the last chapter. And she requires here flute (preferably not broken) and tapestry shread for her scepter and cloak. Giving them to her will unlock the hidden secrets of Orr (possibly 15 attribute points).

I'm really not not not not not not not not not serious about this post.

Homicidal Brainiac

Homicidal Brainiac

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

New Zealand [NZL]

Hundred Companions [HC]

lol, Anet might actually be leaving the Gwen Strand unsolvable so people like us will talk about what we think happens and Anet can then use those ideas, becuase they are secretly spying on us.

So don't be surprised if Gwen IS the queen of Orr.

EDIT: Oh, and I tryed taking Gwen to Sarah, but nothing happened, might be because I'm a mesmer of something stupid like that.

DDRroseDuelist

DDRroseDuelist

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2006

Sorrow's Furnace

Avatars Ascension [AVTR]

W/Mo

The Tapestry Shard is the newest upgrade for Factions, heres the stats:

Tapestry Shard
Energy +5
Chance to evade/agro minotaurs +15%
Off Hand
Value: 117 Platinum

/end sarcasm

Cade

Cade

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2006

Knights of The Scorched Earth

W/

What do you do with the post searing-found broken flute?

tuperwho

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Tenacious Knights of Doom [TKD]

Maybe it's all just a hint of a future class. That's right, Gwen's a Bard, complete with flute and healing spells. Lol

tommarrow

tommarrow

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Shyft Machine [MYTH]

E/

Gwen spelled backwards is NEWG. Think about it. Scary, huh.


/end joke