What would happen to your Pre-order Key?

BellyFlop

BellyFlop

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Ok this is the Question/Situation.


You Pre-Order Guild Wars Factions online they send you the Key for the 24hours before the event, you add this key to your account and get the in game items and u can play the game with this key 24h before official release.

Now you cancel this Pre-order for whatever reason, what Happens to this Pre-order Key? Will they cancel it on your account?

I have 2 accounts but have put my Pre-Order Key in the Account without empty slots so I need another pre-order key, but don’t want to buy 2 factions until I have tested and see if its worth having 2.

This Pre-orders keys have nothing to do with the real Game key right? its just like a preview key no?

Sorry if it was asked before, if it was could you link me, Thanks.

Mordakai

Mordakai

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Kyhlo

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Belly, I don't think there is any way Anet could keep track of all the pre-order keys. I feel pretty confident, that once you got your hands on the key, that's it, the key is yours no matter if you actually bought the game or not.

fiery

fiery

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Join Date: Oct 2005

maryland

InYurFace Gaming [IYF]

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Yuppers, can't have pre-ordered a gift for it to be just taken away.

BellyFlop

BellyFlop

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Ok thanks for that, I was pretty sure of the same but never hurt’s to ask.

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by BellyFlop
Ok thanks for that, I was pretty sure of the same but never hurt’s to ask.
the preorder key is a separate purchase and is no more than a deposit on the game when you buy it.

find a place selling it for .99 cents (or giving it away) and use it. there is nothing commiting you to the purchase except how much you will lose by buying the preorder outright instead of trading it in for game credit

sigried

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

Honduras

Ye Old

W/Mo

how exactly will we get acces of the game 24HR early if the games are deliver up to 1 weak delay.

If we get an access key does it mean we have to downlod the full game from internet will we recieve the key by email can someone explain this a bit more.

i have a preorder game but simply dont know this answer too.

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by sigried
how exactly will we get acces of the game 24HR early if the games are deliver up to 1 weak delay.

If we get an access key does it mean we have to downlod the full game from internet will we recieve the key by email can someone explain this a bit more.

i have a preorder game but simply dont know this answer too.
according to Anet we all have downloaded Factions already.

remember those monster downloads on both events?

what will happen is this.

with the preorder key you will have 24 hours early access from the 27th at midnight pacific time until the servers open to everybody at midnight pacific time on the 28th.

you will have 24 hours to input a Factions retail key from then until 11:59:59 of the 28th at which time Factions not chapter 1 will shut down until you enter the retail Factions key

most stores mail a bit early so most people get it by the 28th.

i pay 2 dollars extra for second day delivery and last year had my box by the 26th

hope this helps.

ALSO NO EXTRA SLOT FOR THE EARLY 24 HOURS WITHOUT A fACTIONS RETAIL KEY SO HAVE A SLOT EMPTY TO USE OR USE YOUR CHAPTER 1 CHARACTERS

IF YOU GET AND ENTER A RETAIL KEY THE EXTRA 2 SLOTS (MAY,SHOULD) BE AVAILABLE

xenoranger

xenoranger

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

Here's the way it works.

Your preorder key is only good for the bonus items and the 24hrs in advance. I talked to the local gamestop GM about this exact thing. What ANet is doing is the key only gives you teh items adn teh 24 hrs advance. You're locked out of your account if you fail to provide a valid Factions key within 24 hrs of the game's release. This means that ANet is expecting you to enter your Factions Key and honor your end of the preorder bargain. Otherwise, you're violating their terms of use and your account can be cancelled as per them. Remember, you're required by ANet to provide your information as accurate as their system allows.


Dude, don't screw around, just preorder and do it right. Besides, ANet's provided a great game that can be played without monthly fees. Why screw with a good thing?


EDIT:
oops.... didn't see Loviatar's post.

Still... Don't screw with them on it.

sigried

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

Honduras

Ye Old

W/Mo

so you sayin we will get by a email the retail Key before the game actually arives in your hand.

EternalTempest

EternalTempest

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

United States

Dark Side Ofthe Moon [DSM]

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They do keep track of the keys (they know if it's been used).

You would get access to Factions for 1 day if the pre-order key is on your account. If the retail key is not on the account by the next day, you will get locked out of factions until the retail key is added to that account.

You can also add the pre-order key at anytime to get access to the pre-order items.

Mordakai

Mordakai

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Kyhlo

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by sigried
so you sayin we will get by a email the retail Key before the game actually arives in your hand.
I don't think so, but I could be wrong.

The keys I'm talking about were in a Pamphlet in the Pre-order box.

BellyFlop

BellyFlop

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
xenoranger
Still... Don't screw with them on it.
Not sure if that’s direct a me but let me answer my bit.

I am not trying to Screw anyone over, I pre-Order Factions and got the pre-order Key by Email, without thinking I use it on my Main account, only to find out later that I will not be able to play 24hours early cos I don’t have a empty slot and not going to deleted cos of that.

So I still want the game but want the Game Factions to merge with my 2nd account were I have 1 empty slot and will be able to play 24hours before. (Why do I need to pay extra money to get a key that is no good for me, when I can order from other places were they don’t give u a key and I can save money)

So did I understand u right, you said because I have put my pre-order in my main account and I will not insert later the Factions retail, they can Cancel/clear/ban/delete my Prophecies Account?

Another question if I do this like pre-order a new game and use my pre-order on my 2nd account and cancel my pre-order of my first account, will I later be able to insert any kind of key into my first account?

And if the comment “Still... Don't screw with them on it” wasted for me I apologize in jumping the gun.

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

[QRED GOtions again

that was truly amazing

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by sigried
so you sayin we will get by a email the retail Key before the game actually arives in your hand.
NO

the only way to get a retail key by email is through Play NCsoft or by an online retailer that will do it and you trust to be holding the key and not make a copy of it.

they send you the box a bit early and if you are lucky you get it in time otherwise you wait until you get the retail box and key to activate Factions again

SylverDragon

SylverDragon

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

Cheshire, UK

Quote:
Originally Posted by BellyFlop
I am not trying to Screw anyone over, I pre-Order Factions and got the pre-order Key by Email, without thinking I use it on my Main account, only to find out later that I will not be able to play 24hours early cos I don’t have a empty slot and not going to deleted cos of that.
I saw a post from someone - sorry, can't remember who or where - who had messed up with their preorder key. They contacted support with the details and support deleted the key they'd used and sent them a new key. So you may want to try that.

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So did I understand u right, you said because I have put my pre-order in my main account and I will not insert later the Factions retail, they can Cancel/clear/ban/delete my Prophecies Account?
I've only seen this mentioned in this thread, and I would doubt that they would do this, but I could be wrong. I don't believe they could cancel a Prophecies account for this as there was no separate agreement along with the preorder key I got, that said that I had to add a retail key to the account I add the preorder key to.

Quote:
Another question if I do this like pre-order a new game and use my pre-order on my 2nd account and cancel my pre-order of my first account, will I later be able to insert any kind of key into my first account?
I don't see why not.

sigried

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

Honduras

Ye Old

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mordakai
I don't think so, but I could be wrong.

The keys I'm talking about were in a Pamphlet in the Pre-order box.
so if you order the game online how exactly you goin to get that key i have not recieve my preorder pack.

I think it will be shipped along witht the game itself.

Kool Pajamas

Kool Pajamas

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2005

Maryland

Mage Elites [MAGE]

Quote:
Originally Posted by xenoranger
Here's the way it works.

Your preorder key is only good for the bonus items and the 24hrs in advance. I talked to the local gamestop GM about this exact thing. What ANet is doing is the key only gives you teh items adn teh 24 hrs advance. You're locked out of your account if you fail to provide a valid Factions key within 24 hrs of the game's release. This means that ANet is expecting you to enter your Factions Key and honor your end of the preorder bargain. Otherwise, you're violating their terms of use and your account can be cancelled as per them. Remember, you're required by ANet to provide your information as accurate as their system allows.


Dude, don't screw around, just preorder and do it right. Besides, ANet's provided a great game that can be played without monthly fees. Why screw with a good thing?


EDIT:
oops.... didn't see Loviatar's post.

Still... Don't screw with them on it.
They do NOT cancel your account. Once the preview key expires, all factions content on your account will be locked just like the beta event until you enter a retail key. If you dont enter a retail key you simply wont be able to access Cantha or any of the Factions skills. Not sure what they do with the items. You wont lose your account. You dont even have to pay for a preview key. It wouldnt make any sense to do that.

Mavrik

Mavrik

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

Alaska

What I find odd is I bought that pre-order kit that comes with the keycodes for the items and all that, then I pre-ordered the CE package... which oddly enough... comes with the same pre-order package lol. Now I got two key booklets.

Kool Pajamas

Kool Pajamas

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2005

Maryland

Mage Elites [MAGE]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mavrik
What I find odd is I bought that pre-order kit that comes with the keycodes for the items and all that, then I pre-ordered the CE package... which oddly enough... comes with the same pre-order package lol. Now I got two key booklets.
Yeah me too. I thought it would be a little different. :/

Sunai

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by xenoranger
Here's the way it works.

Your preorder key is only good for the bonus items and the 24hrs in advance. I talked to the local gamestop GM about this exact thing. What ANet is doing is the key only gives you teh items adn teh 24 hrs advance. You're locked out of your account if you fail to provide a valid Factions key within 24 hrs of the game's release. This means that ANet is expecting you to enter your Factions Key and honor your end of the preorder bargain. Otherwise, you're violating their terms of use and your account can be cancelled as per them. Remember, you're required by ANet to provide your information as accurate as their system allows.


Dude, don't screw around, just preorder and do it right. Besides, ANet's provided a great game that can be played without monthly fees. Why screw with a good thing?


EDIT:
oops.... didn't see Loviatar's post.

Still... Don't screw with them on it.
That's ridiculous. I have to say that the manager doesn't know what he's talking about. That or you misunderstood him. To echo Kool Pajamas, what will happen is you're locked out of Factions-specific content. You'll still be able to play Guild Wars like you are now, just not Factions. Because you don't have it.

Getting your account cancelled because of that is taking it way too far, and would be the stupidest thing they've ever done. You are not entering a legally bound contract when you buy the Pre-Order edition that says you have to buy the final game or else you're banned. There's no "Pre-Order bargain". There's nothing like this is in any of their legal agreements. It's ludicrous.

Quote:
Originally Posted by BellyFlop
I am not trying to Screw anyone over, I pre-Order Factions and got the pre-order Key by Email, without thinking I use it on my Main account, only to find out later that I will not be able to play 24hours early cos I don’t have a empty slot and not going to deleted cos of that.
Well, you can't remove the key and add it to your other account manually. Like was mentioned earlier, you can email support and see if they can change it for you. I'm betting not, though. However, you are not required to have a free slot in order to play 24 hours early. That is only if you want to create a new character. You can always bring your existing characters over to Cantha and play with them. It would probably be a better "evaluation" anyway. Unless you plan to spend all your time in the pre-searing equivalent.

Quote:
Originally Posted by BellyFlop
So I still want the game but want the Game Factions to merge with my 2nd account were I have 1 empty slot and will be able to play 24hours before. (Why do I need to pay extra money to get a key that is no good for me, when I can order from other places were they don’t give u a key and I can save money)
If you can't email support and get it switched, just wait until you get the game and enter they key on your second account. I know it sounds like a lot, but a couple days isn't that big of a deal.

I'm not sure what you're talking about with the keys. A pre-order package is supposed to be bonus material for you if you decide to order the game before it's released. That's it. It's not really a trial or a demo. Some stores have decided to sell the packages independently, but you can use the money you put forward on it as a "discount" on the full game. I would try to find one of those if you just want the head-start key. You won't be banned from your account for not buying Factions later.

If you don't end up buying it later, you still have the pre-order items and everything. It isn't removed from your account, but then, they aren't that useful anyway. Unless you need a quick trapping staff or something similar.

mrbb

mrbb

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

Mo/

What about people who ordered the gameonline and it will take a couple of days to be shipped? I have the pre-order key but will most likely only receive the game after the pre-order time expires.

What if my Tyria char is in Cantha when the time expires? I wonder if it will rebirth in Ascalon...

What about items? I could go to Cantha and "plunder" Cantha and come back to Tyria...

What about I make a new necro in Cantha (b/c I like their looks better) and play like crazy and 'ascend' and take the boat to Tyria, do I still get to play after the time expires?

Ummm...

CyberNigma

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2006

San Antonio, TX

W/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by xenoranger
Here's the way it works.

Your preorder key is only good for the bonus items and the 24hrs in advance. I talked to the local gamestop GM about this exact thing. What ANet is doing is the key only gives you teh items adn teh 24 hrs advance. You're locked out of your account if you fail to provide a valid Factions key within 24 hrs of the game's release. This means that ANet is expecting you to enter your Factions Key and honor your end of the preorder bargain. Otherwise, you're violating their terms of use and your account can be cancelled as per them. Remember, you're required by ANet to provide your information as accurate as their system allows.


Dude, don't screw around, just preorder and do it right. Besides, ANet's provided a great game that can be played without monthly fees. Why screw with a good thing?


EDIT:
oops.... didn't see Loviatar's post.

Still... Don't screw with them on it.
This is the way I saw it as well (you made a bargain). I was corrected by Alex and Gaile's comments though.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaile Grey
We cannot give any extra character slots until someone purchase Factions. A preorder is not a purchase of the retail game. It is not even a promise. A preorder can be cancelled at any time. We cannot give slots, and maintain slots, and support slots, that you have not yet purchased!
The pre-order is not a promise to buy/bargain/contract/guarantee/commitment according to them,officially. That is the reason it took a while for them to explain why they aren't giving the extra slots. Since this is the case, I wouldn't sweat it if you got the pre-order and changed your mind before retail. It came from their mouths (or in the case of forums, their fingers). I'm already committed to buying the retail product after getting the pre-order kit, but you are not committed either morally or legally to doing so. I hope that clears up any confusion.

Remember, though, that you can always buy the retail later on and add it to an account, whereas you can't go back and get a pre-order kit along with its benefits (special pre-order items), so since there's no commitment now it's better to be safe than sorry later.

Mordakai

Mordakai

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Kyhlo

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by mrbb
What about people who ordered the gameonline and it will take a couple of days to be shipped? I have the pre-order key but will most likely only receive the game after the pre-order time expires.

What if my Tyria char is in Cantha when the time expires? I wonder if it will rebirth in Ascalon...
That's a good question. I would hope so.

Quote:
Originally Posted by mrbb
What about items? I could go to Cantha and "plunder" Cantha and come back to Tyria...
Sure, why not? People are going to be selling Cantha items to Prophecy only people pretty quick, items can't be limited to Factions.

Quote:
Originally Posted by mrbb
What about I make a new necro in Cantha (b/c I like their looks better) and play like crazy and 'ascend' and take the boat to Tyria, do I still get to play after the time expires?
Again, I don't see why not, although any Faction only skills could be locked out.

I guess we'll find out soon...

Sunai

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by mrbb
What about people who ordered the gameonline and it will take a couple of days to be shipped? I have the pre-order key but will most likely only receive the game after the pre-order time expires.
You'll just have to deal with it, I guess. This is the case when you purchase any material item online - you have to wait for it to ship to you. This is no different. It's just something you have to accept when ordering such things online. People who turn around and start complaining about the couple days of shipping are kind of silly, I think. Go find a local store.

That said, there are some occasions where the game is shipped to you early so you have it on the day it's "released". I've heard that Gamestop did that for Prophecies, for some people at least. In any case, I wouldn't expect it to happen, or else you'll probably just be disappointed. In fact, if the retailer is free to distribute the game to consumers only after the release date, I'm not sure how they can get away with sending it to them before it. But if it happens, I won't complain. Otherwise, I'll have to wait just like you.

Quote:
Originally Posted by mrbb
What if my Tyria char is in Cantha when the time expires? I wonder if it will rebirth in Ascalon...
I'm guessing it will be locked, because you don't have access to Cantha. If you're lucky, it will send you back to Ascalon when the time expires. Otherwise, you might be able to email support or something. Nobody really knows though, so just don't leave your character in Cantha?

Quote:
Originally Posted by mrbb
What about items? I could go to Cantha and "plunder" Cantha and come back to Tyria...
..and? Everybody with both campaigns can go back and forth and trade items with each other, so even if you don't have Factions you can still get new items, I'm sure. Getting your friend to go get you one of those new collector shields, etc. If your head-start key expires I don't see any items changing. I guess nobody really knows this either, though.

Quote:
Originally Posted by mrbb
What about I make a new necro in Cantha (b/c I like their looks better) and play like crazy and 'ascend' and take the boat to Tyria, do I still get to play after the time expires?
I guess you can find out for us. However, considering that you need Factions to create a character with Canthan-specific looks (can you create one now?), I'm guessing no.

In any case, waiting a couple days to play him again is not going to kill you. If it is, then don't order online!

Mordakai

Mordakai

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Kyhlo

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The main question is how will Anet locks slots: those that have Faction created characters, or those currently in Cantha, or both?

Kool Pajamas

Kool Pajamas

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2005

Maryland

Mage Elites [MAGE]

If you are in Cantha when your time expires it sends you to your guild hall. If you dont have a guild hall you go to Ascalon. When the FPE ended my necro was in the 12vs12 area. When I logged on the next day it started loading that area then quickly changed and sent me to my guild's guild hall. I pressed the "leave guild hall" button to see where it sent me and I was sent to Ascalon city.