Nerfed UW?

glove1038

glove1038

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Massachusetts

Elder Wolves [EWC]

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My friend and i started doing UW runs together to farm for ectos. He had just made his 55 monk that day and i had already had my ss necro. So we started out doing pretty well. in about 4 runs we managed 6 ectos. Then after those 4 runs we did about 5 more over the next couple of days and ZERO ectos. We are very puzzled by this, and not sure if we have been flagged as farmers or if it is a string of bad luck. I am just looking for any answers from anyone, or if this same thing has happened to you. TY!!

Macktar Wang

Macktar Wang

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

C'est la vie in the UW anymore. It has been nerfed a few times. All I can say is keep going. Sometimes I get 5-6 ecto a run, sometimes I get nothing over several runs. Persistence and patience man. Good luck to ya.

Sekkira

Sekkira

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Join Date: Apr 2005

Canberra, AU

Yeah, UW was nerfed recently, Ectos don't drop anymore.

fiery

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maryland

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Dunno but while farming trolls I got hit the the helpful hint box that said overfarming lessen drops blah blah blah. Just might have been another bad day. O, and after receiving that helpful box, 2 black dyes dropped in 3 runs after it ocurred and many gold items.

JiggyFly

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Well I don't know about any recent farming nerfs to UW, but ever since the AoE nerf, it isn't really worth it to go there to simply farm. Since there are other places that yield greater amounts of money.

Macktar Wang

Macktar Wang

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Join Date: Jan 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by fiery
Dunno but while farming trolls I got hit the the helpful hint box that said overfarming lessen drops blah blah blah. Just might have been another bad day. O, and after receiving that helpful box, 2 black dyes dropped in 3 runs after it ocurred and many gold items.
Wow!!! I'd welcome that "nerf."

glove1038

glove1038

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Join Date: Feb 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by JiggyFly
Well I don't know about any recent farming nerfs to UW, but ever since the AoE nerf, it isn't really worth it to go there to simply farm. Since there are other places that yield greater amounts of money.

so your saying that the AoE nerf, affected the drops??

JiggyFly

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No, the AoE drastically increased the time it takes you to farm UW. Plus, now you have to duo it. Thus, at the slower pace and your drops being cut in half. It isn't the fastest way to farm anymore.

Don't get me wrong it's fun and all. But 6 ecto runs aren't all that common, and then take your profits minus one thousand gold, divided by two, plus factor in the time spent there.

glove1038

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Elder Wolves [EWC]

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ya i see what you are saying

Megla Zero

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Join Date: Jan 2006

North Carolina

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I have **** luck in UW. I've gotten 3 ectos total, and ironically... two of them have been from my ranger, not my SS 2-man farmer. Once was on one of my very first runs with my buddy who sucked at UW (hadn't really gotten used to UW yet), but we had fun anyway. Then I got an ecto in tombs on my ranger, and again in UW running a barrage build for 3-man to help teach one of my friends how to SS/SV. Kinda ironic...

Gunz Blazing Smile

Gunz Blazing Smile

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by JiggyFly
Well I don't know about any recent farming nerfs to UW, but ever since the AoE nerf, it isn't really worth it to go there to simply farm. Since there are other places that yield greater amounts of money.
Not to flame or anything (man I hope I'm not flameing), but what OTHER places are you talking about?

SF has a poor drop rate. Tombs has a poor drop rate, not to mention the division of gold, items, ect. Solo Griffon farming/troll/hydra/ (anything else?) can be long, no good drops, and so on so forth. IDS and FoW runs can have about the same drop rate as UW... Also it's still basically LUCK with the chest runs anywhere you go... So sorry if this seems flameing twoards you or something... but with 6 drops of ecto and those are around 5k each still seems good to me even if you have a string of bad luck.

The most worthwile thing now is probably chest runs for a good gold drop to auction it off for the highest bidder... but then I might just keep that 100k+ item just beacuse I like the look of it...

I know you mean to add in the time it takes also to do the run(s) it still seems good to 2-man farm. But I sort of went to FoW anyway... I do UW with friends/guild mates. Find a good SS or if you are a good SS the UW runs can go fairly fast (faster than trying to solo it now a days anyway).

SirShadowrunner

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2005

at the beach

Gamerzunlimited (GU)

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I am not impressed by UW, made over a dozen 3-man trapping runs, got 2
ectos, and opened around 20 chests and all junk.... I have had better luck out
of Shiverpeak chests more than any other chest.
Last night spent 2 hours there and made 2.2k, WOW!!!!!!!!
I could make that in 30 mins in the troll cave without even trying hard, I
think was late to the ecto party and everybody is farming the snot out this
area to get there FOW armor.....
Sux to get favor drop whatever you are doing, because we finally got freakin
favor, and get total junk.....

Josh

Josh

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

England, UK

D/Mo

UW isn't nerfed at all..

I've been with a Mo/W 55 HP friend while I play the SS/SV Necro and we've got at least 1 ecto per run out of around 30 runs, but of course there is the odd 1 or 2 were we got none, but in some runs we got around 4 ectos total.

Blaze Emup

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2005

Martyrs And Heroes

N/Me

Its not nerfed. I've actually noticed getting alot more ecto off of the aatxes than usual.

makosi

makosi

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Join Date: Mar 2006

"Pre-nerf" is incorrect. It's pre-buff.

Requirement Begins With R [notQ]

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My necrotic partner and I shared 5 globs in one smite run a couple of nights ago. Then again, it doesn't compensate for the runs in which we've had none >_<

But i think that the drop rate has been 'adjusted' by the good people at Anet. Still, how does the price of ecto plummit when the drop rates are lowered.

Sekkira

Sekkira

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2005

Canberra, AU

It hasn't been adjusted. People always say it's been nerfed/buffed if they get a good/bad run.

Kcp

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

OBF

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Solo FoW is where it's at Ecto's are are almost down to the price of a shard. I guarantee you will find more shards per run then ectos per run not to mention the obsidian chests which have a good potential to give up some nice goods and upgrades.

Or you guys can stay "old school" and run uw.

SirShadowrunner

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Join Date: Sep 2005

at the beach

Gamerzunlimited (GU)

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Not saying it is nerfed, just saying it totally bites compared to FoW spider
cave runs, and you can solo a spider run in an hour, I can do a spider run
sell all the drops and shards if you want, usually get over 10k if sell shards
and buy the stupid ectos. Doing that I could average 2 ectos per hour, that
is never gonna happen in UW for me, besides I don't FoW armor anyway now,
I saving for the next chapter and nervously waiting to see what materials
are gonna be needed...

sleazeh

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

good from far, far from good

Gaming Continuum

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kcp
Solo FoW is where it's at Ecto's are are almost down to the price of a shard. I guarantee you will find more shards per run then ectos per run not to mention the obsidian chests which have a good potential to give up some nice goods and upgrades.

Or you guys can stay "old school" and run uw.
I echo this sentiment.

If you're in it for profit, FoW solo spider farming is by far the most lucrative of any area in the game per time spent. The shard drop rate far exceeds that of ecto, and combined with the sheer volume of "stuff" that drops (legs, etc), plus the added crap-shoot that is chests, it can't be beat.

For getting xp fast, UW is still tops. But it's not nearly as profitable.

Sha Noran

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sekkira
Yeah, UW was nerfed recently, Ectos don't drop anymore.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sekkira
It hasn't been adjusted. People always say it's been nerfed/buffed if they get a good/bad run.
Sarcasm ftw, I hope...

Anyway, people ALWAYS say UW has been Nerfed as soon as they're unlucky. These threads pop up at least once a week... get over it, just keep grinding if you want the ecto. You get them or you don't, it really is all luck.

Maxiemonster

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There is no spoon.

Join Date: Jun 2005

Netherlands

Mo/

My advice to you: Don't farm for gold, farm for fun. I don't even notice drop nerfs, since I don't care about how much gold I have.

Alleji

Alleji

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Join Date: Jan 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kcp
Solo FoW is where it's at Ecto's are are almost down to the price of a shard. I guarantee you will find more shards per run then ectos per run not to mention the obsidian chests which have a good potential to give up some nice goods and upgrades.

Or you guys can stay "old school" and run uw.
Solo FoW is a lot harder than UW, though <.<

I tried yesterday and never got past the first 3 groups at the start... started out with 10k, finished with 5 shards. Not exactly profitable for almost 2 hours spent, but if I got better at it... >.>

Yichi

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Join Date: Sep 2005

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Quote:
Originally Posted by sleazeh
I echo this sentiment.

If you're in it for profit, FoW solo spider farming is by far the most lucrative of any area in the game per time spent. The shard drop rate far exceeds that of ecto, and combined with the sheer volume of "stuff" that drops (legs, etc), plus the added crap-shoot that is chests, it can't be beat.

For getting xp fast, UW is still tops. But it's not nearly as profitable.
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omg_wtf_pwned

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2006

weird thing is that the past 3 days(except today) i did prolly say about 5-10 Uw 2 man runs , and i not one ecto dropped for me or my partner(before that though 2-3 were dropping per run) , so i started back up today and my 1st run only got us 1 ecto , we got into 2nd run and we headed for the 2nd group of ataxes , after killing them , 2 ectos alone dropped just from them...

il post ss of them dropping ,i about had a heart attack lol

btw within the month or less ive made mad cash from ectos , ive sold over 60+ ectos that ive farmed , and i now have 105 and addinf daily in my storage , 90+ of that 105 have all been farmed ...

also ide like to know a better farming spot than uw?

Jiggy - found a flaw in ur statement , you said that -1k from paying to get in ? if you successfully complete a Uw 2 man smite run between me and my partner , we make 2x times our gold back , so what you said makes no sense what so ever...

danakin

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2005

Houghton, MI

Northern Brethren

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This seems very ironic. People are complaining about the low value of ecto, and then when ectos become scarce (which in turn makes the value go up) they complain. Oh well.

Unchain

Unchain

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

Montana

Soldiers That Fall Up

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I went on 4 runs today clearing Smites and Attaxes, yeilded 5 ectos, and that was with a 50/50 split with my partner. That's 2.5 ectos per run. The UW most certainly isn't 'nerfed'.

mrbb

mrbb

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by danakin
This seems very ironic. People are complaining about the low value of ecto, and then when ectos become scarce (which in turn makes the value go up) they complain. Oh well.
Yeah, I want ectos to drop for every enemy that I kill and that they don't drop for anyone else so the price stays up...

I agree with you... if prices of ectos are going down, it either means lower demand or more ectos being dropped. Either way if you want to buy ectos for armor, you're better off! If you want to make money... to bad!

Lady Erighan

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

Defenders of Gods

E/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gunz Blazing Smile
Not to flame or anything (man I hope I'm not flameing), but what OTHER places are you talking about?

SF has a poor drop rate. Tombs has a poor drop rate, not to mention the division of gold, items, ect. Solo Griffon farming/troll/hydra/ (anything else?) can be long, no good drops, and so on so forth. IDS and FoW runs can have about the same drop rate as UW... Also it's still basically LUCK with the chest runs anywhere you go... So sorry if this seems flameing twoards you or something... but with 6 drops of ecto and those are around 5k each still seems good to me even if you have a string of bad luck.

The most worthwile thing now is probably chest runs for a good gold drop to auction it off for the highest bidder... but then I might just keep that 100k+ item just beacuse I like the look of it...

I know you mean to add in the time it takes also to do the run(s) it still seems good to 2-man farm. But I sort of went to FoW anyway... I do UW with friends/guild mates. Find a good SS or if you are a good SS the UW runs can go fairly fast (faster than trying to solo it now a days anyway).
Your thinking is too much "inside the box." UW is a waist of time. The only reason people still "try" to farm Ectos there is because they don't have any other builds or places to go. Even SS necros are going to FoW because the shard drop rate is a lot better and they trade only a few K less than ecto and you don't have to 50/50 your drops.

Chest running is a waist of time as well. The only way you can make money is if you're LUCKY. 90% of the drops are merchant material. The other 10% will require hours and hours of spamming the trade chats just to break even.

There are still places to farm Griffin. Infact, some people think it's a better spot because there are no Rockshots...

Spider capping can make people some good money.

Playing the trade market is very profitable (assuming you have the patience).

Etc, etc...

Trust me, there are still ways to make 50-150K for an hour or two worth of work.

Macktar Wang

Macktar Wang

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lady Erighan
There are still places to farm Griffin. Infact, some people think it's a better spot because there are no Rockshots...
Only a matter of time till that one is gone too. Maybe after they nerf the trolls in Forge area.

LoKi Foxfire

LoKi Foxfire

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Join Date: Apr 2005

Florida

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I miss farming chests for gold back in the day before they put a stop to that money train. :<

kito

kito

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Join Date: Mar 2006

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sekkira
Yeah, UW was nerfed recently, Ectos don't drop anymore.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sekkira
It hasn't been adjusted. People always say it's been nerfed/buffed if they get a good/bad run.
You just contradicted yourself man

Megla Zero

Megla Zero

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

North Carolina

[OS]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lady Erighan
Your thinking is too much "inside the box." UW is a waist of time. The only reason people still "try" to farm Ectos there is because they don't have any other builds or places to go. Even SS necros are going to FoW because the shard drop rate is a lot better and they trade only a few K less than ecto and you don't have to 50/50 your drops.

Chest running is a waist of time as well. The only way you can make money is if you're LUCKY. 90% of the drops are merchant material. The other 10% will require hours and hours of spamming the trade chats just to break even.
My SS only goes FoW because I find it a lot more fun and enjoyable (with a decent group) to run around doing the quests as opposed to standing around watching a 55 monk tank its butt off and then have me go "1, 2, 3, 2.... 3, 2..." with the occasional Power Spike in there for Dyings, or Blood Ritual for idiot PuGs.

deads76

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Apr 2006

Hi all,

I got an echo ss who drop nothing (i got 1 green in SF one time) everytime i am doing a run. That is really strange cause it supposed to be random, but after a total of 60 run (and problably more in the 3 places UW, sf and fow) i just got this green (no ecto, no shards), i can see other player getting nice drops (and more than 1 green per guys sometimes) everytime but not for me
And with my ranger that's fine i can get some ecto or shards (ruby too).

So i was wondering if the char need to unlock something a quest or mission or whatsever to be allowed to get some green, ecto, etc...

Sorry if my english is hard to understand, this is not my primary language.

Count to Potato

Count to Potato

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2006

Imagination Land

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Uw isnt nerfed it just pretty much random drop, and i think if there wasnt an AoE nerf then there would be a ecto drop nerf btw

Evilsod

Evilsod

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England

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My ranger has the most luck i've ever seen when it come sto UW. I rarely go trapping trips there because compared to SS/SV farming its slow as hell, everytime i do go though is seem to get an ecto (last trip i ended up with 2 so gave 1 to the guy who'd got none).

They're always 'nerfing' UW anyway, recently though the ectos prices have been getting extremelely low, maybe they'll just reduce drops a bit and make em go back up

xjej

xjej

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Join Date: Mar 2006

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4 ectos in one run here

madman420

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lady Erighan

There are still places to farm Griffin. Infact, some people think it's a better spot because there are no Rockshots...
Yeah there's griffon's outside destiny's gorge. Too bad all they drop are griffon wings.

Karmaniac

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TheMosesPHD

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Since everyone is bored out of their mind with Prophecies, I think they improved the quality of drops for the most part. The trolls have definitely been generous to me, and black dyes are falling from the sky. I've never gotten that over-farming message even once though. My first day with my 55hp I farmed for about 3 hours and didn't get the message.

Anarki

Anarki

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Join Date: Dec 2005

Sweden

Almost Famous

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I dont think UW was nerfed, I'm still getting at least 2 ectos per run. If only thing that has changed then it gotta be chests, because they started dropping more golds for me.

And I definitely disagree with someone who posted that there are better farming places than UW. I went from 45k to 1.2mil in a bit over 2 weeks just farming in UW.
And I tried most of other farming - FoW solo warrior, SF green farming, troll/griffon farming, ettin rune farming (gotta be one of the worst) and running. Nothing beats UW