Is the 24 hour head start really that big a deal?

RTSFirebat

RTSFirebat

The Humanoid Typhoon

Join Date: May 2005

UK

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

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Well after thinking about this most likely I will be missing the 24 hour head start anyhow, since I'm getting my GW: Factions CE off a online store.

The thing is I'm really not fussed I'm going to miss the 24 hour head start. I mean really is there any massive advantage? Sure you can rush the whole expansion and get "high-end" weapons sooner. Or maybe go looking for good farming areas to keep to yourself before they are nerfed?

But still beyond that would waiting an extra day be really that big a deal?

To me... no. Just wondering what everyone else thinks?

kalvon

kalvon

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2005

soldiers of heaven

E/Me

What you don't want to beat all of factions a day before it comes out???

~joking

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

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Originally Posted by RTSFirebat

But still beyond that would waiting an extra day be really that big a deal?

To me... no. Just wondering what everyone else thinks?
to me personally a day, a week would be meaningless as i myself go through the game very slowly enjoying what i find.

with apologies to Melvel

*just call me tourist*

a head start to me is meaningless as i am not in a race

Woutsie

Woutsie

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Belgium

I have preordered mine and going to play 24 hours before the release, but I wouldn't really care if I'd miss it. -> the more excited, the more fun you will have

Xenrath

Xenrath

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

W/Me

There will no doubt be some people rushing to buy up a variety of things in order to help propel the prices skyward and then profit off it. Wonder what the odds are there will be farming builds posted during that 24 hours before "official" release date...

Snowman

Snowman

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2005

Wales, UK

Devils Scorpions

W/E

because you orderd it on-line you shouldnt be penalised for it.. When I bought the original Guildwars ONLINE.. I was able to play early.

Im so excited about Factions I want to play it as soon as possible.. so yes, the day early for me is a MUST xD

not only that I have booked a day off for it!

but there are lots of other reasons.. for me, which may seem silly and un-important to you..

Prices on things will take a while to settle, so on the new materials there may be a definate price advantage.

somtimes some bugs slip in before they are caught or reported, so sometimes its fun to experience those... like a mission not working properly or some items with incorrect stats...

it may even be that drops in some areas might be wrong!

It may seem petty, but playing it before everyone else kinda makes ya feel a little special

RTSFirebat

RTSFirebat

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Join Date: May 2005

UK

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Snowman
because you orderd it on-line you shouldnt be penalised for it.. When I bought the original Guildwars ONLINE.. I was able to play early.

Im so excited about Factions I want to play it as soon as possible.. so yes, the day early for me is a MUST xD

not only that I have booked a day off for it!

but there are lots of other reasons.. for me, which may seem silly and un-important to you..

Prices on things will take a while to settle, so on the new materials there may be a definate price advantage.

somtimes some bugs slip in before they are caught or reported, so sometimes its fun to experience those... like a mission not working properly or some items with incorrect stats...

it may even be that drops in some areas might be wrong!

It may seem petty, but playing it before everyone else kinda makes ya feel a little special
Well booking a day off seems a bit overkill, but fair enought ^_^ Any major bugs would have been cleared up after the preview event, but you never know. Most people will be looking for the next HoD sword most likely.

Now starting early with Guild Wars was easy, you could download the client, but is that the same for Factions?

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Originally Posted by Xenrath
There will no doubt be some people rushing to buy up a variety of things in order to help propel the prices skyward and then profit off it. Wonder what the odds are there will be farming builds posted during that 24 hours before "official" release date...
Highly likely I'd stay, I'll be making a new character with one of the new classes.

But my Ranger and Warrior will be coming along for the ride as well. My Ranger is my pride and joy and primary character, my W/Mo... is well a farmer lol

But thinking about it people will most likely try to buy up important materials to made profit from them, like amber and jade for example. Needless to say, I hope A.net has take that into mind to try and stop them.

Xenrath

Xenrath

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

W/Me

That's kind of sad when you think about it; not knocking farmers (I've done some myself and even posted farming builds/videos) but I'd have hoped people would at least try to finish the chapter/get as far as possible first before turning it into Farm Wars: Chapter 2 But I just know I'll be proved wrong hehe

fiery

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maryland

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If theres no school that day , 24 hour no sleep, but may get tired and sleep during half time.

Vilaptca

Vilaptca

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Join Date: Jun 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

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Originally Posted by fiery
If theres no school that day , 24 hour no sleep, but may get tired and sleep during half time.
If there is school that day...I'm emailing in sick...or dying...or oops missed the bus...

Just kidding...sort of. I don't know, if I am at school...as in at my dorm skipping class... then I'll be playing it with my Prophecies characters exploring and doing as many Kurzick quests and Alliance battles as I can to start getting the new 15k sets as soon as I can.

But if its the weekend and I'm at work...then I won't get to play at all and will be thinking about it the whole time I'm taking customers orders...did you say Medium size Necromancer sir? I don't think we serve those...

Kool Pajamas

Kool Pajamas

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2005

Maryland

Mage Elites [MAGE]

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Originally Posted by RTSFirebat
Well after thinking about this most likely I will be missing the 24 hour head start anyhow, since I'm getting my GW: Factions CE off a online store.
I bought my version online. It comes with a preorder key that gives you early access.

RTSFirebat

RTSFirebat

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Join Date: May 2005

UK

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

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Originally Posted by Kool Pajamas
I bought my version online. It comes with a preorder key that gives you early access.
And where is the game data going to come from? Don't we still need the CD to download the Factions client?

sigried

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

Honduras

Ye Old

W/Mo

maybe you need the CD key to acces but not to download the client is free you can download what you buy is the key.

ump

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by RTSFirebat
And where is the game data going to come from? Don't we still need the CD to download the Factions client?
Hasn't this been answered many times before? You don't need the actual CD for anything. It's helpful so you don't need to download as much stuff. However, if you played in the FPE, most of Factions is already downloaded but you just can't access it. The preorder key lets you play a day early. However, it expires (not sure when but I would guess you could play through Saturday) and you need to put a real Factions key to continue playing. You get to play early (when everyone else is rushing to buy their copy) and buy the game a day later than everyone else (avoiding the rush).

Mordakai

Mordakai

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Join Date: Aug 2005

Kyhlo

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Originally Posted by ump
However, it expires (not sure when but I would guess you could play through Saturday) and you need to put a real Factions key to continue playing. .
It expires Friday at 11:59 pm. So, you get all day Thursday and Friday to play before you need the retail key.

I'm not sure how much I'll actually play on Thursday, I might take Friday off and play all day then, though.

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mordakai
It expires Friday at 11:59 pm. So, you get all day Thursday and Friday to play before you need the retail key.

I'm not sure how much I'll actually play on Thursday, I might take Friday off and play all day then, though.
nope

12oAM on the 27th is the start

12:00AM on the 28th is the retail

you have until 11:59:59 PM on the 28th to enter a retail key

Mordakai

Mordakai

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Join Date: Aug 2005

Kyhlo

W/

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Originally Posted by Loviatar
nope

12oAM on the 27th is the start

12:00AM on the 28th is the retail

you have until 11:59:59 PM on the 28th to enter a retail key
Uh, isn't that what I said? Thursday starts at 12:00 am on the 27.

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

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Originally Posted by Mordakai
Uh, isn't that what I said? Thursday starts at 12:00 am on the 27.
well i will indeed be dipped in spit.

you are right it is thursday

Weezer_Blue

Weezer_Blue

Elite Guru

Join Date: Feb 2005

Just a Box in a Cage

Hurry Up The Cakes [Oven]

To me, it is. Mostly because when Chapter 1 released, me and my guildies and friends advanced through the game (both with henchmen and PUG's) extremely quickly because most players, especially non-beta players who hadn't learned to play yet, were still far behind. When we began running second characters through the game, we found the entire population to be downright incompetent (as it has remained).

Mordakai

Mordakai

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Join Date: Aug 2005

Kyhlo

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Originally Posted by Weezer_Blue
To me, it is. Mostly because when Chapter 1 released, me and my guildies and friends advanced through the game (both with henchmen and PUG's) extremely quickly because most players, especially non-beta players who hadn't learned to play yet, were still far behind. When we began running second characters through the game, we found the entire population to be downright incompetent (as it has remained).
So, you need the day head start to feel superior?

I don't get it...

Mavrik

Mavrik

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

Alaska

Since mine is an online pre-order as well... I doubt I'll get the headstart either.. probably be day or so late.

twicky_kid

twicky_kid

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quite Vulgar [FUN]

Quote:
Originally Posted by RTSFirebat
Well booking a day off seems a bit overkill, but fair enought ^_^ Any major bugs would have been cleared up after the preview event, but you never know. Most people will be looking for the next HoD sword most likely.

Now starting early with Guild Wars was easy, you could download the client, but is that the same for Factions?
Booking a day off is overkill??? I'm taking about a week off Wonder what that's considered?

If you have chapter 1 you have already downloaded chapter 2 before the FPE. You will have the game installed before it even comes out so no worries there.

Mordakai

Mordakai

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Kyhlo

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Originally Posted by twicky_kid
Booking a day off is overkill??? I'm taking about a week off Wonder what that's considered?
I thought taking two days off would be overkill, but maybe it's not!

Thanks for encouraging me, twicky!

VitisVinifera

VitisVinifera

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

Northern California

HoTR

N/Me

It looks like I'll get the free day start from my preorder but get kicked off a few days while my CE ships.

I'll take my Prophecies characers over, with my 1400 plats, and buy up whatever seems low priced. Check the forums to see if there's anything bugged or HOD-like, stock up.

as an aside...........if I put in the pre-order key with the day ahead thing, that'll let me get into Factions (Cantha) without the regular retail version key right?

ElinoraNeSangre

ElinoraNeSangre

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

Near Seattle, WA

Talionis De Cineris [EXUR]

N/Me

Overkill? I took the 27th AND the 28th off! :P

... then again, though, I need the downtime anyway because work is sucky. That's 4 days of GW:F goodness when you tack the weekend on!

For me, it isn't about getting a head start to get ahead. It's just that excitement of getting in there and seeing it. It wouldn't matter if I had the head start or not - if I didn't, I'd be just as excited to hop on the servers on the 28th. For me, it's not that I'm on 24 hours ahead... it's that I'm *on* and I'm playing.

twicky_kid

twicky_kid

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quite Vulgar [FUN]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mordakai
I thought taking two days off would be overkill, but maybe it's not!

Thanks for encouraging me, twicky!
I'm still getting paid for those days so don't hurt you wallet. That's never good.

Mordakai

Mordakai

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Join Date: Aug 2005

Kyhlo

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Originally Posted by twicky_kid
I'm still getting paid for those days so don't hurt you wallet. That's never good.
Oh, no, I would take vacation days. I have three weeks, I have to use them sometime, why not Thursday / Friday?

VitisVinifera

VitisVinifera

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

Northern California

HoTR

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part of the problem is that we won't have new slots for the day ahead. So for most of us there isn't getting an early start on assn/rit. Just rich, fully-geared lvl 20's.

Mordakai

Mordakai

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Join Date: Aug 2005

Kyhlo

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Quote:
Originally Posted by VitisVinifera
part of the problem is that we won't have new slots for the day ahead. So for most of us there isn't getting an early start on assn/rit. Just rich, fully-geared lvl 20's.
I thought that was your whole plan, to spend some of that cash burning a hole in your pocket! (1,400 K was it)

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by VitisVinifera
part of the problem is that we won't have new slots for the day ahead. So for most of us there isn't getting an early start on assn/rit. Just rich, fully-geared lvl 20's.
there is historical precident for me having the 2 merged slots.

i got my copy of GW retail in my hands from gamestop 2nd day delivery on the 26th.

if they do the same this year i will have a valid retail key to enter on the 26th and wait for it to go live

then i have a new good book to read

VitisVinifera

VitisVinifera

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Join Date: Nov 2005

Northern California

HoTR

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mordakai
I thought that was your whole plan, to spend some of that cash burning a hole in your pocket! (1,400 K was it)
yes, it is. I also want to see if whatever the equivalent of FOW armor in Factions is, hoping it uses ectos n shards cuz at this point I'm just collecting 120/120 for it (I'm at 100/10 atm).

spend.........see if there are quirky/soon-to-be-nerfed items.........I'm sure monks will be in high demand.......

I got my Factions CE from gamestop too and it says shipping 28th. Maybe I should go back and look again.

CyberNigma

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2006

San Antonio, TX

W/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by Xenrath
That's kind of sad when you think about it; not knocking farmers (I've done some myself and even posted farming builds/videos) but I'd have hoped people would at least try to finish the chapter/get as far as possible first before turning it into Farm Wars: Chapter 2 But I just know I'll be proved wrong hehe
Some of us are farming in the beginning as well, but for other reasons. I've got 4 full slots and don't want to start the new campaign with my level 20 characters. I want to start it from the beginning at level 1 in the monastary. I want to use the benefits of buying the pre-order kit, so that leaves finding an area with one of my 20's and farming it a day early until I can create a new character.

Snowman

Snowman

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2005

Wales, UK

Devils Scorpions

W/E

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Originally Posted by RTSFirebat
Well booking a day off seems a bit overkill, but fair enought ^_^
lol, I booked the friday off for the FPE as well, I also took part in all of the BETA events, I even stayed up until 4am (GMT) waiting for the release of Sorrows Furnace..

I guess im just in the habit by now, I dont want to miss out on anything xD
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Originally Posted by RTSFirebat
Any major bugs would have been cleared up after the preview event, but you never know.
thats the point... you never know

Quote:
Originally Posted by RTSFirebat
Now starting early with Guild Wars was easy, you could download the client, but is that the same for Factions?
No, what I meant was... there was a similar pre-order thing for guildwars!.. as in early access!... I didnt get my box util AFTER the early access and yet I orderd it online.. so there is no reason factions should be different..

(although I have moved my pre-order three times trying to get the key)

Factions is the same, you download the client, but chances are you already have most of it from the FPE

Nevin

Nevin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2005

I'm skipping classes that day, and going to get plenty of sleep the night before (Going to bed around 7:00ish) and wake up around 2 A.M. I plan on utilizing that day to the max.

Mandy Memory

Mandy Memory

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2005

USA

Xen of Sigils [XoO]

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I beat all of prophecies within that 24 hours (well not really...i beat it the next day...before i bought the game anyways...)

Is it a big deal? not at all.

RTSFirebat

RTSFirebat

The Humanoid Typhoon

Join Date: May 2005

UK

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nevin
I'm skipping classes that day, and going to get plenty of sleep the night before (Going to bed around 7:00ish) and wake up around 2 A.M. I plan on utilizing that day to the max.
Good to see a game takes more importance over your education, make sure not one grasses you in

Well it seems most want to use their Level 20s to get the goodies in first, but we need to all remember that there is most likely 1000+ gold and weapon farmers who have the same idea.

For the first 24 hours (Now that someone has explained it to me) I'll use my Warrior, the my primary farmer and workhorse.

Snowman

Snowman

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2005

Wales, UK

Devils Scorpions

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by RTSFirebat
Good to see a game takes more importance over your education, make sure not one grasses you in
Guildwars IS an education.. its a way of life... its like.. er... a Field trip xD

I REALLY wont be taking a lvl 20 in to start farming, I will be making a level 1 character and going through the story line and absorbing as much as I can in the time I have off before going back to work...

aaah.. it will be just like when Guildwars was first released

heavy metal rules

heavy metal rules

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

cape cod, ma

{bkr} bad karma ressurection

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no its not important to me really, but to some people, they might find an item and start their usual bull feces( yeah i know lol) stating those famous words...wts UBER GODLY NEW (insert profession) weapon. for the usual 100k + whatever...and you know it will happen.

twicky_kid

twicky_kid

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quite Vulgar [FUN]

Zins and Rits born in Cantha will be lvl 20s and go through a small pre searing.

Only if your character is born in Tyria will it start as lvl 1.

Kool Pajamas

Kool Pajamas

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2005

Maryland

Mage Elites [MAGE]

Quote:
Originally Posted by twicky_kid
Zins and Rits born in Cantha will be lvl 20s and go through a small pre searing.

Only if your character is born in Tyria will it start as lvl 1.
Um no. If you create an assassin or ritualist it will start at lvl 1 in Cantha. The starting at level 20 was just for the preview event.