What Do I Do?

I joined a Guild a few days ago. Played with the members, talked, had fun actually. Today I go on and I have no cape. I ask the leader what happened. He said he sold the guild! We were savubg up for a guild hall. So I ask if I'll get my 2k back (keep in mind I'm new to the game so 2k was hard for me to get). He doesn't answer, and after five minutes he tells me someone ran off with it. At that point I'm getting second thoughts about this guy. So, I ask him who it was. He says, "Well, heck, I dunno". I know he's lying then. I tell him and then ask one more time who it was. After another 5 minute wait he says his friend used his account and took it. Now I'm out 2k (plus other members out of there money). What can I do? This really sucks

I would report the guy for scamming or something...that would really piss me off...

You, my friend, just got scammed. Not much you can do other than be more careful in the future. Don't ever give your guild leaders gold. I'm a guild leader for my guild, and I never ask for money from my members. It is the leaders sole responsiblity to provide the hall and capes himself\herself.

thats harsh man...I'd be angry. But I will suggest that in the future, run around with people for a while and get to know them before you join a guild. It's about the only real way to find a good guild that suits your interests. I hope you get your gold back bud

Report him if you feel it's neccessary. Otherwise, take the 2K loss as it's really not that much. It might seem like alot if you are new to the game, but you will have it back in no time if you just keep chugging along.

Well, I have a feeling reporting him won't do any good anyways. I talked to him for a bit before he went offline (or blocked me). This kinda thing really pisses me off. You can tell as the conversation goes...

Me: Can I get my 2k back?
Him: srry I'm not the one holdin it
Me: Who is?!
Him: Well he ran off with it
Me: Oh really? I gave it to you
Him: Then I gave it to him
Me: I knew I shouldn't have (-_-') I don't know if I can believe you... thats great. My first time in a guild
Him: well srry
Me: and I lose 2k... omg... lol. Probably a scam. I have to say, you did a good job. What was this persons name?
Him: RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO I dunno
Him: He scammed me
Me: Now I KNOW you took it. You gave all that money to someone you didn;t know and didn't bother to get
Me: the name
Him: Well my friend was like I'm usin your account so I let him next thin I know hes gone with it.
Me: So, can I get payed back by you then?
Him: wtf I aint got it
Him: He took all my money
Him: Im tryin to get it back
Me: First you tell me that you have no idea who it it then you say its your friend... come on.
Me: What are you doing to get it back anyways?
Me: Since you don't know your friends, obviously its gonna be a little hard to get it back
Him: Man you can make it back.
Me: Of course I can, but I'm new to the game. Kinda hard for me to. I won't report you if you give it back.
Him: Report it wont do anything
Him: Go ahead
Me: Report you? Why? You scam me?
Him: I don't care if you do report me cuz nothin will happen.
Me: Why not? Cause I have no proof that you scammed me?
Him: I don't have it
Me: Wow. I already know that, I know that you scammed me, and I know that your a bad liar.
Him: lol w/e I don't have it
Me: Your friend play this game?
Him: yes but I neva played with him so I don't know his name
Me: I bet you don't even know his real name do you? A bum off the street?
Him: His name is john
Me: Well, I'm glad to hear you at least know your boyfriends name. Now, I'm tired of talking all this crap.
Him: lol my boyfriends name hah
Him: Is that the best you got
Me: Yea, I made a funny, hah hah. Sorry, didn't mean to disrepect you Anyways, I want my money back
Me: Preferably in lets say... hmmm.. five days
Him: Report me lets just see what you do
Me: Come on. How much do you make from scamming? I just want my 2k
Him: i dont scam
Me: Don't play that with me. Your lame ass story doesn't fool anyone
Him: omg
Him: I aint playin shit
Me: Lets say your telling the truth.
Him: wut
Me: How do you plan to get my money back? Or anyone elses for that matter?
Him: I'm not getting your money back
Him: Because I don't have that kind of money
Me: Dumbasses like you really know how to piss people off and ruin there game. At least learn to lie... omg...
Him: lol

he is just asking for you to report him...i would...BUT only if you have an ingame screen shot of the conversation....otherwise your pretty much screwed...

Can you give us the guy's name so next time I see him I can scam him :P Lol

Well, I have 10 screenshots of the conversation. I couldn't get all of it. I did get one of the times when he dared me to report it. You think this might be enough?

His name is (dont use names). I know hes gonna do it again. He goes looking for people new to the game so it's easy to scam them.

Also, where would I report him at? I don't mind if I don't get the 2k back... at this point it's a kind of major loss for me, but I don't want him to do it to other new people.

Well actually you're not supposed to post names in this forum if you don't have their consent, so you need to edit and take that out. But seeing as how I've already seen the name you posted, I'll be sure to give em a call and mess with em But yeah. Now I know why there are so many ppl recruiting early in game. That's just messed up...What's more messed up is ppl that actually buy the guild...why would you buy a guild...

Oh, and since you can have only like 10 ppl on your ignore list, and I'm sure this noobs list is full already. I'm sure anyone else who's seen the name posted will be able to pwnwhisper spam the guy with complete freedom

Well it can't hurt if you report him...only 5min of some Anet worker's time(dont flame me for this )...no biggie...people like this need to be stopped...its not right

Yeah, that's pretty lame. Make sure you know them a little better or know the guild is gonna be around.

I have to disagree with this statement. Our guild had the active members each contribute to buy the guild hall, it made it more a group activity than just going out and buying it. They also got to vote on which one to use for the guild, same as the cape. I think those kinds of activities help build community in a guild.

We also documented on our forum the contributions that people made towards the hall so nobody could say they were scammed or whatever.

Hey if you (OP) are interested in a PvE guild, check us out. See sig for forum site.

Are you allowed to post the guild's name on here? if not post it for the good of all of us...

Man hit me up ign: reverend lovejooy I'll give ya 2k for ya I know how you feel your a new player and I know how it is to get jipped.

*edited out* Well, Anyone who wants his name or guild name PM me. It's not in the rules that I can't PM it >_>

sorry no.


Question: why did you pay 2k to the guild leader anyway? entrence fee? If it is an entrence fee thats retarded. Why join a guild in the first place that REQUIRES you to pay to get in?

It was for the Guild Hall. It was a group effort. I don't remember how far we got, but he was getting it pretty fast. Him and one of his officers were holding a contest. Whoever got up the most money for the guild hall got a Fiery Dragon Sword (or soemthing like that, I know its a popular one).

Just send a in game hello to this guy.

BTW whos (dont use names)

But where do I report this guy at?

I already did. Read farther down.

And I don't know that person. Where did you see that?

I dont know he ask me if i was (dont use names). sry but this guy his freaking out lol who are you, i am SANTA bringing you the 2k that you drop.

With the spelling this guy must be like 10 or something, and this is coming a Foreigner were English is the maybe 3rd language now

I would love to post the chat that we are having but go a feeling this Tread will close soon.

Oh I thought you were telling me to say hello :P lol, now thats funny. (dont use names) must have been someone else he scammed.

I am saying i want to invest on him now, and he told me he need 20k for is armor but i told him that i am not sure if the community can trust a guy that lost a guild like that that

oh and he told me i can trust him. hope so

20k for his armor?! And then he said to trust him. lol. I bet he jumped at the chance to make a quick buck.

Well fair enough I was just pointing out that no guild leader should be asking for gold from their members. If they offer to donate it to the betterment of the guild then thats cool. I just don't trust anyone that goes around demanding money from new members.

DarK_AssassiN i will PM u with the chat log if u want just PM me and u do what ever u want to it, i dont think i will post it here.

I normally never read rules so. but he does say it was his friend got into his account and that you gave him 2k and his asking for me 2 give him 20k so he can pay u the 2k

IMHO: Never join a guild where the leader doesn't have the finances (in-game that is) to buy a hall that goes the same for a cape.

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by the way..dont use peoples sns as it is against forum policies. as for you not reading rules BellyFlop, I suggest you read them or you will have mods all over your posts . That goes the same for you Dark. Keep in-game anger/hatred in-game and not on gwg.

I would never join a Guild that Asked for any gold, Like i see people spamming the whole chat saying Guild looking for members join only 100gold

Would u join a guild that cant even paid 100g for a invite. you know whats next can u give 2k for cape and another 2k for Hall and another 2k for my bla bla bla.

If u dont have the finance dont make a Guild and if dont want to waste 100g and want to make sure this person is for real talk 2 him/her first and direct him/her to your website/forums and get them to reg, is they do all this then they will want to join a real and not just looking for something that they dont even know.

Well if I so happened to see the IGN, and hypothetically had a conversation with him.....and it might have went something like this... hypothetically that is:

Me: Hey, scammer. How bout we give the 2k back to the guildie you stole it from?

Him: shut up i didn't steel it

Me: I've seen screenshots of the entire convo *this was technically a lie since what I saw was a post like this and not a screenshot but meh. Er hypothetically of course.*

Him: i never sed i scammed him

Me: Not directly, no you didn't
Me: but laughing at him and telling him to report you because nothing will happen...

Him: well cuz it wont vcuz i didnt really steel it but to shut all u up i will pay him bac

Me:...isn't necessarily proving yourself.
Me: well I see he is online now

Him: well im goin to playsome battle field 2 with my clan

Me: well a trade takes all but 30 seconds

Him: well when i get 20k from comunity ill payhim bac the 2k

Me: and how long is that going to be?

Him: umm wonce they gie the 20k ill give the 2k

*What I was going to type*How about you call your friend "John" and get the gold back?

*What I got*
Player ******** is not online.

Of course all this bad grammer and horrible spelling is purely hypothetical.

lol sorry thats my work

o Hell with it i will post it.

WARNING THIS IS A BORING CONVERSATION AND JUST EXPLAIN HOW BORED I WAS, SO READ AT YOU OWN FREE TIME.

Oh Message for the Dumb in the Chat no the Community will not invest 20k on you after all









I done my best to erase is name but its it shows then good for him.

SRY Took it back something was wrong there.and its back again lol 3am cant think is some chat logs are missing or u just pasted 2xtimes going to sleep wasted to much time with this MR. DC

Opps sry one post after another n00b.

Well, I thank you all for trying. It's really sad that these kinds of things happen. He won't give it back no matter what, and I doubt we could force him to, but there were others to, and there will be more after me.

And what is being done to get the word out about these scammers? I see posts about people being scammed by others and by guilds. But who are they? How do I know who to look out for? I understand that displaying names is against the rules for whatever reason, but I don't see how others could be stopped from getting scammed like this too. I'm up for any ideas anyone has for a community project that could raise scammer awareness or somthing. Maybe even a website (I can design and code)?

what to do: Stop, Think, Question, Repeat.