People still buy Crimson Carapace Shields from the GWGuru Auctions...?

Replicant

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

R/Me

just browsing through the guild wars guru forums and i stumble across this auction: http://www.guildwarsguru.com/auction...m.php?id=71541

uhm.. "RARE CARPACE NOT IN GAME ANYMORE" i dunno about you guys, but i take that as false advertisement..
Still Available from this Collector: http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Karl_Jakobs
and screenshotted proof that it's still in the game.


10k for an easy to get shield... ehh i know it's none of my business... but still just amazed people still buy these things...

Lampshade

Lampshade

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

USA

Xen of Onslaught

I have 2 of em

(different colors)

Eet GnomeSmasher

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2005

In my head

Scammers trying to rip off people who dont know better.

Cottage Pie

Cottage Pie

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

Birmingham, England

Taking Aegis

Mo/Me

it's not false advertisement, it's pure scamming.

M1h4iL

M1h4iL

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2005

Perth, Australia

How is that scamming? Its up to the buyer to choose how he spends his money and the seller didnt say anything misleading, well he didnt say anything..maybe someone was to lazy to get one manually.

TAZTG

TAZTG

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2006

MD

[BuA]

W/

I had 2 and gave 1 away.. Dyed mine black, it looks sweet. There is another Collector in Snake Dance with same shield that wants Griffin Wings..

Caged Fury

Caged Fury

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

Hearts Of Fury [HoF]

Quote:
Originally Posted by M1h4iL
How is that scamming? Its up to the buyer to choose how he spends his money and the seller didnt say anything misleading, well he didnt say anything..maybe someone was to lazy to get one manually.
Not misleading? The shield is not rare and it is still in the game. The auction item was titled ""RARE CARPACE NOT IN GAME ANYMORE".

Rayne Nightfyre

Rayne Nightfyre

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Acolytes of Lyssa [AL]

Me/A

That same shield is probably more easily obtained from the collector in Snake Dance, outside of Camp Rankor. It requires 5 Frosted Griffon Wings, which are easy to farm for or buy.

New players who don't know better have always been taken advantage of, this is nothing new. Shame on anyone who'd try to do this, but it's ultimately the buyer's choice whether or not they wish to buy an item like this (hopefully not).

And yes, it's false advertising since that shield is anything but rare, and there are several collectors that give the shield.

Savio

Savio

Teenager with attitude

Join Date: Jul 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

Hmmm, did we miss one? Dral's been cleaning up these ridiculous auctions. He'll be waking up to another message from me, which I'm sure he's getting tired of...


And actually, this one is the one obtained east of Dunes of Despair, as this one requires Tactics.

Cottage Pie

Cottage Pie

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

Birmingham, England

Taking Aegis

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by M1h4iL
How is that scamming? Its up to the buyer to choose how he spends his money and the seller didnt say anything misleading, well he didnt say anything..maybe someone was to lazy to get one manually.

(considering you can't have read either mypost or the OP properly, as it's clearly scamming) you say too lazy? Well that someone had to get their GP somehow, which is exactly what gold is for, the transferal of one labour into the produce of another labour. How the hell are they lazy for buying one instead of farming sand worms for 'em?

And the price of an item does not make it a scam, it's makes a rip off, it's the extra text that makes a scam or not.

I.E.
Selling 30hp pommel 50k
Selling 30hp pommel 180k

Neither are scams, but the second price is ludicrous. But if you have 180k, you should know what things are worth. 10k for a collector shield is a not a scam, it's just a stupid price

Foppe

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

COLD, Cold Snap

Not scamming, lying

dronex

dronex

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by rayne2550
That same shield is probably more easily obtained from the collector in Snake Dance, outside of Camp Rankor. It requires 5 Frosted Griffon Wings, which are easy to farm for or buy.

New players who don't know better have always been taken advantage of, this is nothing new. Shame on anyone who'd try to do this, but it's ultimately the buyer's choice whether or not they wish to buy an item like this (hopefully not).

And yes, it's false advertising since that shield is anything but rare, and there are several collectors that give the shield.
thats the str version of if ...

Replicant

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

R/Me

lol.. it went up to 11,501... with 3 bids.. lol.

as mentioned before, the shield in snake dance right outside of rankor is Strength based, the one outside of dunes is Tactics based... same mods, same armor just diffrent requirements.

*ponders selling some of these.. .lol*

Ctb

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

W/

It's not always noobers. I bought one the other day myself in LA for my W/ME because I didn't feel like going to get one.

Still, the guy didn't lie about what it was, and I didn't pay anywhere near that for it....

Big_Iron

Big_Iron

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

The Edge

Tormented Weapons [emo]

It's one thing to be selling it in game and making such claims, but this was either pretty bold or pretty stupid for this seller to make such a claim in an auction. It was bound to be caught by someone. Not justifying it, just making a statement.

Mods, would this be a bannable offense?

Raziel665

Raziel665

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

Defenders of the Blackblade [DotB]

N/Mo

Wasnt there a +45, -2 while in Stance removed from a collecter in Snake Dance, also called Crimson Carapace Shield? Heard it was popular with runners a while back, still have it collecting dust in storage, in case I ever decide to make a Warrior again, maybe I should get rid of it.

fiery

fiery

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2005

maryland

InYurFace Gaming [IYF]

R/

I just bought them cheap from the auction so I don't have to farm for the items.

Skawtt

Skawtt

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

Oregon

W/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by Raziel665
Wasnt there a +45, -2 while in Stance removed from a collecter in Snake Dance, also called Crimson Carapace Shield? Heard it was popular with runners a while back, still have it collecting dust in storage, in case I ever decide to make a Warrior again, maybe I should get rid of it.
That shield is still in game as well the collector is located north of Thirsty River in the Scar. Npcs name is Lord Dorn Lendrigen. He wants two bleached shells for it.

Blaze Emup

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2005

Martyrs And Heroes

N/Me

The one outside Rankor is "while hexed". The one shown is the stance version found in the desert.

Rayne Nightfyre

Rayne Nightfyre

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Acolytes of Lyssa [AL]

Me/A

Just to clarify any confusion:

  • Crimson Carapace Shield
    Armor 16 (req 9 Tactics)
    Health +60 (while hexed)
    Received Damage -3 (while hexed)
    -{Vulture Drifts, east of Dunes of Despair, requires 5 Massive Jawbones.}

  • Crimson Carapace Shield
    Armor 16 (req 9 Strength)
    Health +60 (while hexed)
    Received Damage -3 (while hexed)
    -{Snake Dance, outside of Camp Rankor, requires 5 Frosted Griffon Wings.}

  • Crimson Carapace Shield
    Armor 16 (req 9 Strength)
    Health +45 (while in a stance)
    Received Damage -2 (while in a stance)
    -{The Scar, north of Thirsty River, requires 5 Bleached Shells.}

  • Crimson Carapace Shield
    Armor 12 (req 8 Tactics)
    Health +45 (while enchanted
    Received Damage -2 (while enchanted)
    -{Mamnoon Lagoon, south of The Wilds, requires 5 Ancient Eyes}

If these have any trade value at all, they should be 500-600g to compensate for the cost of the collector items. The one that requires Bleached Shells should sell for no more or no less than 5k(since each shell sells for 1k).

TheYellowKid

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

Mina Sucks [Blz]

got my bleached shell one for 4k i think.. could have got it cheaper before i knew how much bleached shells were and found 2 people selling the shells for 250g ea.!!!! oh well live and learn

Ctb

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

W/

Quote:
The one that requires Bleached Shells should sell for no more or no less than 5k(since each shell sells for 1k).
I don't see why it shouldn't sell for whatever you can get people to pay for it, especially if you're not misrepresenting what it is. Getting those shells can be a PITA, and, frankly, I'd much rather pay a few plat for it at Lion's Arch than go out and find it myself.

Is it a good deal stat-wise? No, but then neither is 15K armor or Fissure Armor, and that's an officially priced part of the game which people still pay for.

P.S.: I thought it only took 2 shells?

Replicant

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

R/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by rayne2550
-{The Scar, north of Thirsty River, requires 5 Bleached Shells.}
nice post Rayne.

but just a minor correction, its 2 shells not 5.

Former Ruling

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Cedartown, Georgia

R/

HE is just slightly mistaken, its only been 2 shells since last update.

Someone was Asking to buy one of my bleached shell shield for 4k, and I sold it to him, making a good 2k profit.

noone seems to know about it being 2 shells yet.

Griff Mon

Griff Mon

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

In the Elfen Forests of Washington State

Damage Radius

N/

I think why this one is worth so much more is because of the stance requirement, something Warriors can easily control. Farming Bleached Shells is not easy for a lot of people and do not drop with any great regularity, and in the recent past I bought most of these shells to get it at 1K a piece, the requirement being 5 Shells at the time. Then you add going out and making the trade, which is a bit of a slog through the desert, and you have spent some time and 5K for the thing. So asking 10K for it, is not that far out of line.

noblepaladin

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

The stance shield is very strong in PvE. Especially for Wa/Me using physical or elemental resistance because it makes the warrior essentially invulnerable to that type of damage. (-2 from shield, -3 from superior rune, -2 from armor, that means if you would take 7 damage or less, you actually take no damage, the Mesmer stances last very long and usually allows you to have enough armor to take 7 damage or less before reduction).

Inureface

Inureface

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

Asian in Lousiana

The Endbringers

R/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by rayne2550
Just to clarify any confusion:
Crimson Carapace Shield
Armor 16 (req 9 Strength)
Health +45 (while in a stance)
Received Damage -2 (while in a stance)
-{The Scar, north of Thirsty River, requires 5 Bleached Shells.}
Wait, isn't that supposed to be tactics req? Unless they got rid of it, which means I'll just hold onto mine until everyone realizes how good it was and prices soar

Halfthought

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2006

just a question, where do you farm bleached shells, I know they drop from wurms, but where are there the most wurms

Kais Unduli

Kais Unduli

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Room V

The easiest place to farm them is outside of Dunes of Despair. The only trick is getting past the forsaken near the teleporter. Just east of where you telelport to, wurms usually pop up. Sometimes 2-3 at a time. But if you can run a solo build there, you'll get your shells soon enough.

Nater

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

Illusion Of Skill

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Inureface
Wait, isn't that supposed to be tactics req? Unless they got rid of it, which means I'll just hold onto mine until everyone realizes how good it was and prices soar
Yeah, its Tactics, not Strength. Typo on his part.

Raziel665

Raziel665

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

Defenders of the Blackblade [DotB]

N/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nater
Yeah, its Tactics, not Strength. Typo on his part.
Gah! Mine is Tactics, so I kinda hoped it was actually removed from the game. I was hanging on to it cause I heard it was removed.