I'm sorry but this does not look like the Assassin we are getting

Theos

Theos

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

River Dancing

Eternal Treachery [TimE]

Me/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Esprit
I would like to see overweight (let's say 400 lbs + ) characters. Armor stretched over a stomach of fat and with a 'Slam' skill to belly-flop-insta-kill enemies. A 'Roll' attack would be interesting too.

Assassins need to be able to move quickly and lithely, for those who need to see a chest, just imagine that their boobs are strapped down (for the afore-mentioned ease of movements). Or imagine they are like the Greek Amazons and they cut one off to allow for great archery capabilities.

lady kesha

lady kesha

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2006

Ohio - soon NB, Canada!

Biscuit of Dewm

E/Mo

Okay I'm a girl and I'm disgusted by the way the assassin looks.. I had made one and deleted her because she looked like a boy pretending to be a girl. I'm not saying give her big boobs and lots of curves, just give her some freaking hips! Even ATHLETIC girls have hips!!!!!! She looks extremely anorexic and its freaky. Not to mention she doesnt look athletic, wouldnt she have muscles or something showing a bit???

Theos

Theos

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

River Dancing

Eternal Treachery [TimE]

Me/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by lady kesha
Okay I'm a girl and I'm disgusted by the way the assassin looks.. I had made one and deleted her because she looked like a boy pretending to be a girl. I'm not saying give her big boobs and lots of curves, just give her some freaking hips! Even ATHLETIC girls have hips!!!!!! She looks extremely anorexic and its freaky. Not to mention she doesnt look athletic, wouldnt she have muscles or something showing a bit??? Unless on heavy Bull Steroids, females don't always show muscle mass like men. Though assassin is unrealistic it is none the less a character not a person.

~Also take note: Assassins did not focus on strength, they were/are lean mobile and swift killers. It is therefore more important to be small and slick than to be bulky and muscular.

Mister_Smiley

Mister_Smiley

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

You know, i have really have no option of what they look like, hopefully down the line the will be changed the female assassin, but i still plain to make an assassin, what type i have yet to decide.

lady kesha

lady kesha

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2006

Ohio - soon NB, Canada!

Biscuit of Dewm

E/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Theos
Unless on heavy Bull Steroids, females don't always show muscle mass like men. Though assassin is unrealistic it is none the less a character not a person.

~Also take note: Assassins did not focus on strength, they were/are lean mobile and swift killers. It is therefore more important to be small and slick than to be bulky and muscular. Small and swift is fine but geeze the whole point of gender is for one to be male and one to be female.... and if the female looks like a stick, theres hardly any difference between the male and female appearance. I was just saying give her some hips, I could care less about the muscles The female assassin I saw looked extremely asexual... so what would be the point of having 2 genders when one would probably suffice with that look???

Savio

Savio

Teenager with attitude

Join Date: Jul 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fates Monk
Is there a link to that in 1920x1200? http://www.guildwars.co.kr/pds/wallpaper.asp

Doesn't look like it.

lyra_song

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

i hate getting into this arguement so i will just say a few things.



Imagine looking like that all your life.

Now imagine a video game you love that actually makes an character class you can relate to physically.

Now imagine all the hateful things you hear when people talk about said character class. The same things you hear all the time about yourself.

Now imagine that you realize thats how a lot of people are and become depressed over the state of humanity as a whole.

I forgive you jerks :P

lg5000

lg5000

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Australia

Lyra, from that, I take it you're not all that old? Only in the way that a woman over a certain age looks unmistakably like a woman, no matter how skinny/small boobed. Of course, I might be way off too.. and this is not meant as an insult. I sorta get why assassins are the way they are now, so thanks for your post.

Oh, and a natural way of increasing boobie size is to get pregnant *knows from experience* and I prefer my small ones.

Kais Unduli

Kais Unduli

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Room V

Just do what I did: scale the female assassin down to its smallest size. Doesn't look so bad after that. She's got a six pack. Maybe I was looking too closely...

I'm still making a female assassin, and I dig the new dance. To all the haters, if this is what you choose to lament over considering the source, you all need to get out a little bit. There are greater tragedies in the world.

Rex the Unloving

Rex the Unloving

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

California, U.S

N/

WHERED YOU GET THAT WALLPAPER -needs new assassin wallpaper and wants the one he sees-

edit- nvm

Rex the Unloving

Rex the Unloving

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

California, U.S

N/

maybe if the in-game female assassins got a new pose? lol

Eden2k5

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

Uhh DUH!
Flat stickfigure models= lower poly count! :P

Yea the assassins look quite.. bad. Even warrior females could use more muscle definition. Plus most gymnasts have very defined strong legs, and considering an assassin would be quick and agile should be similar. The 6 pack looks a little cartoony. But I agree overall that the assassin base models could use some reworking.

Ulivious The Reaper

Ulivious The Reaper

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

The Shadowed Assassins

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by lyra_song
Well since the factions covergirl is the very voluptous Nika, it is kind of deceitful to give players something that does look very different.

Im wondering when, during the design stage did that in game art and the high-res art diverge.

I guess we blame anet's design directors.

OFF WITH THEIR HEADS XD i'll join you with my plus nine against ogres, i'm sure it'll help somewhere

Lady Lozza

Lady Lozza

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

Oz

Angel Sharks

Me/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by Eden2k5
Uhh DUH!
Flat stickfigure models= lower poly count! :P

Yea the assassins look quite.. bad. Even warrior females could use more muscle definition. Plus most gymnasts have very defined strong legs, and considering an assassin would be quick and agile should be similar. The 6 pack looks a little cartoony. But I agree overall that the assassin base models could use some reworking. ARTISTIC gymnasts have bulky legs, or perhaps rather a lot do, but not all. Svetlana Khorkina did not, and she was a great artistic gymnast. Rhythmic gymnasts, on the other hand, are generally just as strong but with a different build and do not have the heavy leg set.

The six pack is actually quite realistic in relation to the general "realism" of the game. Girls do not get the same sort of definition that guys do.

My main gripe with the female assassin is lack of upper body bulk, NOT bust but general muscle development in the upperbody. Even without doing pushups or special upperbody workouts, general exercise tones and develops the muscles in the shoulders and upper back. IMHO their shoulders and arms are too narrow/skinny for anyone who has presumably gone through heavy, life-long physical training regime.

I don't like a lot of the hair options either but that is just personal taste.

I certainly think that Anet should NOT increase the bust, roundness/curves of the assassin. Maybe for once male players might actually play male characters.

led-zep

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

its not the boob issue its why the hell anet would promote anorexia.
female assassin looks terrible

Fred Kiwi

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

[cola]

I totally agree. I know this sounds shallow but it really pains me to be looking at the female assassin.

Yanman.be

Yanman.be

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2005

Belgium

[ROSE]

A/

fix the problem: make a male assassin?

lyra_song

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by led-zep
its not the boob issue its why the hell anet would promote anorexia. being skinny does not equate to being anorexic.

This is a fallacy in logic.

Please excuse the assasin for having a high basal metabolic rate, an exercise regime and the lifestyle of a physical fighter for burning off all the fat that men find so attractive.

lady kesha

lady kesha

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2006

Ohio - soon NB, Canada!

Biscuit of Dewm

E/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by lyra_song
being skinny does not equate to being anorexic.

This is a fallacy in logic.

Please excuse the assasin for having a high basal metabolic rate, an exercise regime and the lifestyle of a physical fighter for burning off all the fat that men find so attractive. Skinny doesnt equate to being anorexic - I'll agree to that, considering that I'm 5'6 and until recently, never went above 105 and people thought I was anorexic. That always pains me, but I however, do not work out and am very pale - thats just my coloring. Its different for the assasin.

You may think "yay, a char that looks like me!" but here I'm thinking "WOW, that girl needs SOMETHING on her bones!" Yeah, its just a game but as someone said, she needs at LEAST some upper body definition or something, to look like a girl. Its fine if they don't make it so the girl looks so girly and great that the guys want to play her but at least make it possible that she WONT look like the men when the game comes out?? That's all anyone here is saying really.

lyra_song

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by lady kesha
Skinny doesnt equate to being anorexic - I'll agree to that, considering that I'm 5'6 and until recently, never went above 105 and people thought I was anorexic. That always pains me, but I however, do not work out and am very pale - thats just my coloring. Its different for the assasin.

You may think "yay, a char that looks like me!" but here I'm thinking "WOW, that girl needs SOMETHING on her bones!" Yeah, its just a game but as someone said, she needs at LEAST some upper body definition or something, to look like a girl. Its fine if they don't make it so the girl looks so girly and great that the guys want to play her but at least make it possible that she WONT look like the men when the game comes out?? That's all anyone here is saying really. I guess that comes down to personal taste. Maybe sexual preference. >.>

I think the assassin could definitely benefit in a little more bacon in her diet.

As it is, i find the in game Assasin beautiful and i know im not the only one XD

Snowman

Snowman

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2005

Wales, UK

Devils Scorpions

W/E

The assasin in the picture isnt asian thats why.

Kais Unduli

Kais Unduli

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Room V

Quote:
Originally Posted by lyra_song
being skinny does not equate to being anorexic.

This is a fallacy in logic.

Please excuse the assasin for having a high basal metabolic rate, an exercise regime and the lifestyle of a physical fighter for burning off all the fat that men find so attractive.
You gotta remember, most of the people we're argruing with here are most likely kids, so they don't know the various sizes women come in. And if there are men here who don't know what an athletic look is, well, I really don't have anything to say there.

I myself do prefer the athletic look of the female assassin. That's why I plan on making one once I get my copy of Factions. Anet isn't promoting anorexia in our young female players. If anyone here honestly thinks that, then damn, you need a head check.

I do agree that the base model could use some more upper body definition, and maybe a little muscle added to the hind area could benefit the look, but please, stop making this out to be some kind of social issue.

And the dance still rocks.

natus

natus

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Denmark

i'm just gonna make a male assassin :0

but yea, i think the female assassins look way too skinny, but then again, i guess it's natural if you want to do those nifty spin flip jump daggerstab moves.

boxterduke

boxterduke

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

Walking the ruins of Ascalon

DVDF

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Esprit
What we saw in the FPE may not be the final graphics for the new characters.
Plus, to get an Assassin to look like that in the OP you'd need to use the new Unreal graphics engine and a very high-end graphics card.
What you see probably took weeks to draw, and if it is 3d, it took a while to render. Imagine having to rig something like that for normal gameplay. Oy.
They looked like this in the PvP preview and the same in FPE.
And I know that this is a render and not ingame screen model and have you seen the graphics of Oblivion!!

Quote: Originally Posted by Eclair Well, the Ritualists look VERY similar to their concept art though, I can see why people are disappointed. Yes they do.

Quote: Originally Posted by Ensign
The term you are looking for is 'athletic'. I know it's not a popular bodytype for ogling, but that's what it is.
Peace,
-CxE That is not athletic my friend, that is skinny and boney. My wife is athletic and she is curvy.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Yanman.be
fix the problem: make a male assassin? Have you seen how nasty they look.

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I have a mix of male and female characters, I picked them because I liked the way they look does not matter on their gender.
From the first day I saw and played GW (first ever preview at E3 2004) I knew that my mesmer will be female and my warrior will be male.

At the end its a matter of preference but as I can see in this thread and the countless others here and on other forums, lots of people do not like how the assassins look.

My 2 cents.

Fates

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Kanuckistan

Mirror of Reason [SNOW]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Savio

lyra_song

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by boxterduke
Have you seen how nasty they look.


Looks pretty hot to me >.>;

Mahanaxar

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

Italy

Lupus Et Agnus

R/

I think the legs are the real problem, for both male and female assassin.
Nothing wrong with a gymnast slim build, but the legs look really unhealthy.

Carinae

Carinae

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

Inside

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

I like the assassain as she is, but I think the poly-model itself is too narrow right behind the knees.

I'm not complaining that she's too thin for my taste, I'm saying her legs can't support the weight because of the narrowing behind her knee.

They could just *slightly* tweak that part and she's perfect. I consider this more of a bug/unfinished model than a complaint abou her weight.

nimloth32

nimloth32

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Celestial Order

W/Mo

butbutbut, that assassin in the pic got nice boobs..=D..

Big_Iron

Big_Iron

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

The Edge

Tormented Weapons [emo]

Sorry, but I'm with the rest of the crowd. Too skinny. I like athlectic builds and the female assassin doen't look athletic. Maybe like a marathon runner, but they're a small percentage of female athletes. Look at Mia Hamm, Brandi Chastain,and Maria Sharapova...to name a few. They are all very athlectic and not built like that.

Rebel Dragon

Rebel Dragon

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Vile Of Faith [nova]

W/Mo

i agree she looks likes she has anorexia

the cover model of gw (nika) looks alot better..

athletic.. but not anorexic
nika has atleast some fat around her body and breast and nice muscles..
this assasin that we get only has muscles...

Cartoonhero

Cartoonhero

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Sooner Nation

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kais Unduli
You gotta remember, most of the people we're argruing with here are most likely kids, so they don't know the various sizes women come in. And if there are men here who don't know what an athletic look is, well, I really don't have anything to say there.

I myself do prefer the athletic look of the female assassin. That's why I plan on making one once I get my copy of Factions. Anet isn't promoting anorexia in our young female players. If anyone here honestly thinks that, then damn, you need a head check.

I do agree that the base model could use some more upper body definition, and maybe a little muscle added to the hind area could benefit the look, but please, stop making this out to be some kind of social issue.

And the dance still rocks. im 19, 5' 8'', and 120lbs. im not the most athletic girl ever(hell, im a gamer nerd girl, the most athletic i get is marching band. In other words, im skinny and white. But i am not unhealthy looking. She just looks too narrow. Yes, im aware of the shapes and sizes women come in, im not a moron. Im aware the assassin is supposed to be ultra athletic and flexible...but she honestly doenst look like she could even support her own weight. im not asking for them to make her look like the curvy rit(which is goregeous, btw)...but she needs more muscle definition or something.

I agree with you that this is not a social issue...the assassin is not going to make me become anorexic...

my 2cents.

Ninetail Trickster

Ninetail Trickster

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

A pleasant place that needs more rain. T_T

The Rose Society

-finds a largish dictionary-
-checks its weight...-
Hmm...
-replaces it-
-finds a hardcover Tom Clancy novel-
MUCH heavier. ^_^
-procedes to bludgeon the various chauvinists haunting the thread-

...now then. With that out of the way... what was I doing...? Oh, right.
'kay, first off, the assassin model design might not have been final. They might have released a lower-quality varation to ensure that more people could play capably.
OR, they might have known that there would be more assassins in Cantha than potential targets, and lowered the quality to compensate.
'kay, next up, at the guys- Assassins aren't supposed to be seen. Does it -matter- that they don't quite look like a Victoria's Secret ad?
And, at the girls- Yes, she's too skinny and doesn't even look capable of LIFTING those daggers, to me... much less the Katanas that people are going to put on their almighty A/Ws...
...
I came into this thread mad, with the intent of chewing someone or something out. But now I'm just laughing.
I'll slink off now. ^_^

Tufty

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

UK

CUTE

I say bigger boobies lol
typical wammo appologise all round

Ninetail Trickster

Ninetail Trickster

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

A pleasant place that needs more rain. T_T

The Rose Society

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tufty
I say bigger boobies lol
typical wammo appologise all round I swear, if it wasn't for your OMG FOWWW helm, I'd.... >_>
[Note: Joking, joking... ]

Mister Muhkuh

Mister Muhkuh

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

Germany

Ugly Ducklings [ugly]

P/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Esprit
I would like to see overweight (let's say 400 lbs + ) warrior henchies xD

Tufty

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

UK

CUTE

I say let people choose body types too! Like in Sims or some playstation games! Although I can imagine that could lead to an influx of oddly proportioned females in the game!!! I personally tried to model my warrior on me but I'd have to start bench pressing cars to get a chest like that. Still it'd be nice to have more of a likeness (I wanna get my beer belly in the game)

Kakumei

Kakumei

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Grind is subjective

learn this please

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ninetail Trickster
--...^_^ Good god.

Ghull Ka

Ghull Ka

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Seattle, WA

Grenths Helpdesk

N/

Bah, I love the female assassin model. Good stuff.

Titan Chrae

Titan Chrae

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

Frozen Lake

Illustrious Chromatic Enigmas (ICE)

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Esprit
I would like to see overweight (let's say 400 lbs + ) characters. Armor stretched over a stomach of fat and with a 'Slam' skill to belly-flop-insta-kill enemies. A 'Roll' attack would be interesting too.

Assassins need to be able to move quickly and lithely, for those who need to see a chest, just imagine that their boobs are strapped down (for the afore-mentioned ease of movements). New classes for Chapter 3:

Sumo Wrestler

American Football Lineman