Do monk skills degen your minions quicker?

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Running the test often, lets you test the rate until they reach max degen. That was my point.

I just retested this, and No, their degen is not affected by Heal Area.

All minions start at -1 degen, and that increases at a rate of -1 pip every 20 seconds. This means they normally reach max degen (-10) after exactly 3 minutes.

It also means that Verata's Sacrifice will break even at 3 minutes. no degen, no regen.

So, test it like this:

1) Look at the clock.
2) Raise a minion, horror or fiend.
3) Cast Verata's Sacrifice and keep recasting it for 3 minutes.
4) Spam Heal Area (or other monk heal spell) while VS recharges. You can get off 3-4 HAs in the normal recharge cycle.
5) Observe that VS breaks even at 3 minutes regardless of the use of monks heals.

If monk heals increased minion degen, the regeneration window of VS would be much shorter than 3 minutes. In fact, if you spammed HA three times between every VS cast, then VS would break even after just one minute, which clearly is not happening.

If you don't believe the naturaly regen rate I quoted, re-run the experiment and skip step 4 (the heal step) and see how long until VS breaks even.

I can't believe that this is even a topic for debate after all these months since release. However, you still run into it. I was farming UW2 w/ my MM in a b/p group and I had a ranger who was adamant that our monk was hurting my minions w/ Heal Area. I said it was a myth, but the ranger persisted. Finally another ranger piped in with, "Dude, it doesn't matter. They aren't going to last past the next encounter anyway."

It's just funny how a rumor/myth get's started and won't die.

When you first summon a minnion it starts out with 1 degen, then it gets higher and higher as time go by. i hope that helps.

I just posted this on another thread. It looks like I need to post it again.

Basically, after a minion's health has degenerated beyond -10, it may appear that healing them is making them die faster since healing doesn't seem as effective. However, healing minions does not increase degeneration. Not taking into consideration damage caused by other sources, degeneration is only caused by time.

Here's a quote from Guildwiki:

"Minions are subject to constant health degeneration, starting at 1 "pip" of degen at summoning, and increasing by 1 pip of degeration every 20 seconds. (One pip of degeneration is -2 health per second.) While their actual health will never experience degeneration greater than -10 pips (20 health per second), they can have hidden degeneration greater than -10, if they have been "alive" long enough, that will counteract any regeneration from such skills as Verata's Sacrifice or Healing Breeze.
Minions can be healed not only with necromancer spells like Verata's Sacrifice or Blood of the Master, but also with Monk spells like Heal Other. Contrary to some rumors, healing a minion with a Healing Prayers skill does not increase its degeneration.[sic]The effect of health degeneration is capped at 10, meaning that a minion will at most lose health at a rate of 10 health every 0.5 seconds. However, minion health degeneration will become increasingly difficult to counteract over time. This is because the total (raw, uncapped) degeneration rate can still increase beyond 10, and this is the value that regeneration effects (e.g. from Verata's Sacrifice and Healing Breeze) are calculated against.

If a minion's raw health degeneration has increased to -20 pips over time, the minion will suffer from -10 pips because of the degeneration cap. If Verata's Sacrifice is cast to give the minion +10 pips, the minion will experience -20 + 10 = -10 pips, which is the same as if Verata's Sacrifice had not been cast."

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