Which one do you prefer? Razorstone or Victo's Battle Axe?

duddlewuts

duddlewuts

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Apr 2006

los angeles, culver city

notorious royal family

W/Mo

VBA all the way

Arkantos

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

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I'd have to say victo's. I wish there was a green axe with furious and fort/defence on it

Hired Blade

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2006

Oregon USA

Leader Of (Hired Souls)

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My vote is for Victo's Axe =)

mrlopes

mrlopes

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

In PVE
My vote is for ...

Furious NameIt of Defense

For me, Sundering = Crap
Most of skills we use are adrenaline based, so... you will be able to build your adrenaline fast

I prefer the +armor as a long term benefit, as already showed in many foruns, i know the hp degen .... i prefer armor, period.

So most of the time in PVE i'm just use my collectors "Furious Axe or Defense", or use the Razorstone with the almost useless, +1 axe

My 2 cents

Gonzo

Gonzo

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2006

Netherlands

Defenders of the Blackblade [DotB]

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I have Victo's, i like the skin and the mods. However, if there is a green that is furious and defence +5 that would be the one I would go for. (Or if I get a good skin and these mods I will make it )

led-zep

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

why cant some people understand the title of this thread, does it say list your fav axe mods or tell us why you dont like mod (sunderng suxxors = not a good arguement) or even post with nothing to say apart from 'neither'?
no it just asks out of 2 axes listed which would you prefer, not hard?

victos for me

Magnus_1

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2006

Mo/Me

It's too bad that so many green items for warriors are so crappy. I like the Victo's and Razorstone for their skins, but that's about it.

yesitsrob

yesitsrob

Elite Guru

Join Date: Sep 2005

Manchester, England

SMS/Victrix

the green axes got the short straw out of the other green warrior weapons

Hammer gets victo's maul which is pretty decent, albeit the others are pretty junk

and the sword get the victo's blade, 3/1 vamp, 30hp, 15 over 50, very good sword

axes need at least one axe with 2 decent mods

vamp/furious/zealous of fortitude/defense - 15>50 or in stance, something like that would be worth getting to me

Big_Iron

Big_Iron

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

The Edge

Tormented Weapons [emo]

Quote:
Originally Posted by eSe
Victos > Razerstone!
/agreed

I've tried them both and Victo's worked better for me.

SilentAssassin

SilentAssassin

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Belgium

Remnants of Ascalon, KT alliance

R/N

victos all the way

it also looks alot nicer

greenlantern

greenlantern

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

OA

Niether, Green Weapons Suck!
<--Green Lantern Owns

Sirkaze

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

London/Uk

The Lost Saracens

E/Mo

Victo's Battle Axe make's me laugh.... people dont know what they are talking about, It has the Mod of Sundering the worst mod in the game Why? 10% is 1armor pen making it pretty useless I use The Razor Stone In PvP and PvE. The only reason people buy Victo because of it's skin... Skin does not matter... It's the mod's! Let's hope that Clear's something's up! Razor Stone is on my vote!

Most People who know about Axe's Use the Razor stone.

Tela

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2006

Mo/R

Razorstone is by far superior. Victos is the next fds/ids. I only use weapons with health mods when im nearing death, and like someone else said sundering is crap.

Savio

Savio

Teenager with attitude

Join Date: Jul 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sirkaze
Most People who know about Axe's Use the Razor stone.
People who know about axes and actually care don't use either.

Divinus Stella

Divinus Stella

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Wales

Steel Phoenix

Sundering sucks, Furious sucks.
I'd take Armour over Fortitude 99% of the time, Axe Mastery +1 sucks.
If i had to choose between these weapons id rather just take a shield on its own.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Savio
People who know about axes and actually care don't use either.
Truth.

Sagius Truthbarron

Sagius Truthbarron

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

Animal Factory [ZoO]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mandy Memory
Is this some kind of pve stronghold? No one would ever use sundering in any situation given that they have alternatives (and a decent IQ).

Furious is a great mod, especially in pve where you can spam cyclone axe forever.
Very true. If only you could merge Victo's Battle Axe and the Razorstone, though Then you could have a Sundering axe of Axemastery for ub3r damage!!

No, kidding, But if only they could be more like my Furious Battlepick of Fortitude.

Or even my Zealous Battle Axe of Defense o.o

Quote:
Originally Posted by Divinus Stella
I'd take Armour over Fortitude 99% of the time.
Lets hope you never get degen But I guess you are thinking more about PvE.

Overall, though, I'de have to say none of the mods give that tremendous a benefit, except maybe Zealous (which can mean the difference between no energy and reletively high energy). 30 extra health can save your life, and 5+ armour can mean the difference between taking 2 damage and taking 0 damage (in a PvE solo situation, the difference between life and death).

Its all in how you use it and what you are up against.

Divinus Stella

Divinus Stella

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Wales

Steel Phoenix

No, 30 HP wont go a long way against a degen team, however an extra 5AL will help when im under frenzy or running relics, most of the time the serious degen is on monks anyway.

Sagius Truthbarron

Sagius Truthbarron

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

Animal Factory [ZoO]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Divinus Stella
No, 30 HP wont go a long way against a degen team, however an extra 5AL will help when im under frenzy or running relics, most of the time the serious degen is on monks anyway.
When you are holding an item, you don't get the benefits of weapons or offhands. Try picking up a relic while holding a staff and watch what happends. Notice a -15 energy?

But I see where you are comming from. 5 AL is good in some situations, and 30 health isn't anything to get excited about. But still, if you get spiked probably more health will help you more than anything. Specifically against Necro spike.

Divinus Stella

Divinus Stella

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Wales

Steel Phoenix

True, but still i dont see a reason to take a fortitude mod over a defensive mod.
The armour mod will prevent more than 30HP worth of damage over a match, less pressure on the monks, and in the event of serious degen you can always swap, but by the time people are putting high degen on the warriors its usually gg.

Cherno

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

Stars of Destiny

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Savio
People who know about axes and actually care don't use either.
Yep. Furious isn't that great mod either. It is actually essentially the same as sundering.

At max mod it is 10% chance to get an extra hit of adrenaline? Unless using things like cyclone axe, that extra one hit of adrenaline is hardly noticeable. You get better odds using something like flurry or frenzy. Plus I am not a fan of axe mastery +1.

Led-zep: If the poster just wanted Victo's or Razorstone answers then a poll would have been sufficient. We are giving our reasons why, and that naturally leads to a discussion of what makes the mods good or bad.

Sekkira

Sekkira

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2005

Canberra, AU

koneko

Site Contributor

Join Date: Sep 2005

38??16′ N 140??52′ E

Mo/Me

^ Modded in the wrong leet-sauce order D;

I'd rather use the Razorstone + customize if I were forced to.

Sekkira

Sekkira

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2005

Canberra, AU

it originally was bought as sundering. But we all know that's trash, it had to be done away with.

Mai

Mai

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Needs Moar[DESU]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sekkira
it originally was bought as sundering. But we all know that's trash, it had to be done away with.
lol agreed

Hate it when ppl jack up the price ridiculously just cause it has that lame sundering mod on it D:<

Count to Potato

Count to Potato

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2006

Imagination Land

I Swear She Was Eighteen [Gwen]

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Looks and attributes go to Razorstone

No competition

Sirkaze

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

London/Uk

The Lost Saracens

E/Mo

The good thing about a victo's battle axe is it's 30hp maybe for running.

And Victo's Battle Axe sell's at 10k now while the RazorStone sell's quite high...


Im with Razorstone all the way

Omnidragon42

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

Pantheon of Shadows [dei]

W/A

I use Victo's, and my Zealous Chaos Axe

Misc Merik

Misc Merik

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

America

Fugitives of Kurzick (Fok)

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I use both of them... and a custom made droknar zealous axe with +5 armor mod on it.

COOL TROLL JOHN

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2006

mountains

E/R

I saw this thread the other day so i decided to do a little experiment. I have the razorstone, tanzit's clever and victo's battle axe. I took them all and went to augery rock where i fought the hydras right outside of town. One at a time i used a different weapon and went out the gate to to take on the evil hydras.I have to say that with all the weapons i kicked thier a$$e$ but the razorstone really stood out. Now i think the real question here should be is it the weapon you are using or is it the monsters that you are fighting maybe it's the skill combonations a player uses but my choice is RAZORSTONE.

jackie

jackie

/retired

Join Date: Dec 2005

On the Beach

If I had to choose from either one then propably Victo's, but I prefer my Customized Vampiric White Scythe of Defense ^_^

LifeInfusion

LifeInfusion

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

in the midline

E/Mo

In pvE

Furious >>>>> sundering
+30HP >>>>>> Axe mastery +1

Victos only because Axe mastery +1 is useless in a PvE environment

King's Spectre

King's Spectre

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Syracuse, NY, USA

The Amazon Basin (AB)

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Razorstone because Victo's axe destroyed my Don Quixotian quest to find a max sickle.

The Real Roy Keane

The Real Roy Keane

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Dublin, Ireland

Razorstone has the thoroughly useless Axe Mastery Suffix, while Victo's Axe has the thoroughly useless sundering prefix. Get a cheap weapon off the crafter in Droknar's Forge, and pimp your axe.

Konrow

Konrow

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

NY, New York

Warlords of Earth [WAR]

I would go victo for looks and razor for damage. thats my 2 cents

Kool Pajamas

Kool Pajamas

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2005

Maryland

Mage Elites [MAGE]

Victo's because I got it dropped for me in Tombs and I'm not paying for a weapon.

makosi

makosi

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

"Pre-nerf" is incorrect. It's pre-buff.

Requirement Begins With R [notQ]

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Drok's Cratfer axe...... everyone whammo and his granny has a victo's axe and razorstone.

natus

natus

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Denmark

I prefer razorstone, just for looks really, if i had a max 15^50 sephis, i would probably give it a zealus mod, or something elemental, because i love conjure..mmm.