55 monks met their match?

unholy guardian

unholy guardian

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2006

Lost Haven

A/Mo

with so many attacks that cannot be blocked or evaded, would one think that the assasin could be able to rip through a 55 monk?

i didnt think up a build yet cause im kinda busy, but from what ive read through, espcially a semi-decent 55 monk could get ripped to shreds by the assasin and all the crazy attacks

espically since u could come back from behind and shank them see down below for my build idea

NatalieD

NatalieD

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

A 55 monk doesn't need to block or evade your attacks to survive. And actually, assassins are rather more vulnerable than warriors to block/evade defenses, in my experience.

Expunge Enchantments, however...

Darkpower Alchemist

Darkpower Alchemist

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2006

NYC

The Circle Of Nine[NINE]

E/N

The assassin is just another attacker to a 55 monk,unless he is an A/N or an A/Mo as well with Scourge Healing. The A/N can strip the 55 monk of his enchantments and be done with it in a moment. The A/Mo,I would believe could also manipulate the 55 build for him/herself as well. Now that would be a powerful display to see. 55 assassins FTW!

Murder In China

Murder In China

Banned

Join Date: Sep 2005

/B/Chan

Looking for one

W/

Isn't there an Assassin Enchantment that would remove an enchantment every Critical hit?

unholy guardian

unholy guardian

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2006

Lost Haven

A/Mo

yea the idea was with a necro on the side, course how many 55 monks r in pvp? or are they just more of an ra thing? or gvg? lol i cant remember

but hmm a good necro could in theory do the same thing, but idk ill try and figure a build in about 5 mins to try and do the job =p , it seems a necro could do the job a lot easier with just all out curse build, but ill try and do the best i can =p



but anyway watch out for mesmers =p

the necrotic shanker a/n

Desecrate Enchantments
Energy Cost: 10
Activation Time: 2 Seconds.
Recharge Time: 15 Seconds.

~Target foe and all nearby foes take 6-49 shadow damage and 4-17 shadow damage for each enchantment on them.

Rend Enchantments

Energy Cost: 10
Activation Time: 3 Seconds.
Recharge Time: 30 Seconds.

~Remove 5-8 enchantments from target foe. For each Monk enchantment removed, you take 55-31 damage.

Desperate Strike - lead attack

Energy Cost: 5
Activation Time: None.
Recharge Time: 6 Seconds.

~If you have less than 50-74% Health, you deal +5-41 damage.

Fox Fangs - off hand attack

Energy Cost: 5
Activation Time: None.
Recharge Time: 8 Seconds

~Must follow a lead attack. Fox Fangs cannot be "blocked" or "evaded" and strikes for +10-18 damage if it hits.

Blades of Steel dual att

Energy Cost: 5
Activation Time: None.
Recharge Time: 20 Seconds.

~Must follow an off-hand attack. If it hits, this attack strikes for +5-12 damage (maximum bonus 50) for each recharging dagger attack.

Moebius Strike (e)

Energy Cost: 5
Activation Time: None.
Recharge Time: 8 Seconds.

~Must follow a Dual Attack. If it hits, Moebius Strike strikes for +10-30 damage. If you strike a foe whose Health is below 50%, all your other attack skills are recharged. This is an elite skill.

i know rez sig, but idk about other 1 place =p


Bascally in this idea you would open with Desecrate Enchantments to try and damage the monk for all the enchants probly in place

then you can take them all off with rend enchantments, but heres the beauty, it will hurt you A LOT so if you do it right, you could end up with a knock out right there, since you will probly be below 70% health and hit with around +40 by then, depends on the level in daggar mastery, but knowing a monks armor with a plus 40 attack, if you hit well they would die =)

but, ok they didnt die so they r trying to guardian up on yea eh? so you do fox fangs which cant miss, and you have a few recharging daggar skills so if they still live you can pull off blades of steel to do some nice bonus damage

and hopfully they die the combo to hurt you then power up a lead attack sounds promising greatting rid of monks

i know the entre thing would take 40 energy, which is kinda bad... but i think with zealous mods and the higher energy armor it wouldnt be so bad, and its even better if it only takes the one attack =p

NatalieD

NatalieD

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Dude, seriously. Just take Expunge Enchantments.

Oh, and Desecrate is useless against a 55'er. Prot Spirit nullifies the extra damage.

konohamaru heaven

konohamaru heaven

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Some where in Cantha beyond the Petrified Forest and the Jade Sea

The Amazon Basin

1 Vampiric gaze/touch = gg 55 monk

But yea youd be suprised what an assassin can do to rip a 55 monk a part alone

mrbein

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Mar 2006

Fist Of Domination

N/Me

yea but noone ever used 55 monks in pvp just to letcha know (cause they suck in pvp against everything mostly)

Josh

Josh

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

England, UK

D/Mo

^^ Just Desecrate Enchantments would kill a 55 HP Monk. ;\

NatalieD

NatalieD

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Josh
^^ Just Desecrate Enchantments would kill a 55 HP Monk. ;\ What did I just say?

NatalieD

NatalieD

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by mrbein
yea but noone ever used 55 monks in pvp just to letcha know (cause they suck in pvp against everything mostly) They show up in random arena from time to time. Kinda frustrating if you're not playing a build with lifesteal enchantment removal... but so fun if you are.

Murder In China

Murder In China

Banned

Join Date: Sep 2005

/B/Chan

Looking for one

W/

Vampiric Touch = pwnd.

Spoony

Spoony

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

Just chillin', Playing Gw

Rurik Is A Suicidal Maniac [ftw] - Recruiting people for HA

To be short, blood owns shfifty fives. Desecrate / expunge / rend / shatter enchantment(s) works too. If u want to kill a 55 with a melee class(that doesnt/cant have such skills), try taking life stealing upgrade(cuz it ignores that) , and attack as fastest as u can, that should help.

unholy guardian

unholy guardian

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2006

Lost Haven

A/Mo

ah so a touch ranger would kill a 55 monk easy huh?

Spoony

Spoony

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

Just chillin', Playing Gw

Rurik Is A Suicidal Maniac [ftw] - Recruiting people for HA

Yeah, just need to do 55 dmg by blood magic and a 55 is as good as dead.

Cirian

Cirian

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

European Union

The Amazon Basin

Any blood necro would probably eat them up with lifesteals, and even the restoration ritualist has lifesteals powerful enough to bypass prot spirit and 1-shot a 55 monk. Vengeful Weapon the monk's target and it's game over. Soul Leech or Mark of Subversion are my favourite anti-55's just to see them suicide, I like to play with my food in RA

Effigy

Effigy

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

Illinois, US

Heroes of Talia [HoT]

Mo/

Doesn't Prot Spirit reduce the damage from direct damage health drains? I know the degen ones can kill them, but I assumed Vamp Gaze/Touch would only deal 5 damage.

The assassin has the Dark Apostasy {E} skill that will allow them to remove an enchantment each time they get a critical hit, which would spell doom to any 55 monk. A purely defensive 55 monk can be resistance to most forms of attack since they can bring Spell Breaker, which means degen hexes, Rend Enchantments, etc can't be cast on them. Dark Apostasy gets around SB because you don't have to cast anything on them.

Avarre

Avarre

Bubblegum Patrol

Join Date: Dec 2005

Singapore Armed Forces

Direct health drains aren't damage, they are health drains!

This is all well and good but... who uses 55monks in pvp anyways?

And yes, there will be a mob with that skill in PvE. Do you really think 55monks are gonna be farming it?

emopunky

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2005

Cary, NC

The Stock Market

W/Mo

why would you even be using a 55 monk to pvp in the first place

Effigy

Effigy

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

Illinois, US

Heroes of Talia [HoT]

Mo/

Most people don't, but occasionally there will be a griefer in arenas that uses an imonk to tank the enemy team after his own team has died, in hopes that they will be unable to kill him and just quit. It's kind of like people who run around constantly when they are the last one alive.

bleh

bleh

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

N.Z.

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P/

assasin dual attack with conjure flame ow! says 55 hp monk

YienTheYien

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2006

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by konohamaru heaven
1 Vampiric gaze/touch = gg 55 monk

But yea youd be suprised what an assassin can do to rip a 55 monk a part alone lol the most obvious one

Vampiric Gaze/touch= one unhappy 55

Murder In China

Murder In China

Banned

Join Date: Sep 2005

/B/Chan

Looking for one

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by bleh
assasin dual attack with conjure flame ow! says 55 hp monk That's only 4 damage sources...You need like 11 to kill the monk.

Nevin

Nevin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2005

Or just be a necro with vamp touch at 16 blood magic.

Murder In China

Murder In China

Banned

Join Date: Sep 2005

/B/Chan

Looking for one

W/

Or sap him with any spell that steals life that isn't degen.

Cirian

Cirian

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

European Union

The Amazon Basin

E/N with Rend Enchantments + Ride the Lighting would be stylish way to cook them

Pi_Numurian

Pi_Numurian

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Numurian Vanguard

Me/R

I say Mesmer with Backfire and Strip Enchantment. Dead

Ying Yang Knight

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Apr 2006

The Architects [HeRo]

W/

if assassin can rip my 55 monk then their is no need to play in pvp or others no more so i might just quick 55 monk cause my tank can solo farm so there is no need for my 55 monk no more.

Vahn Roi

Vahn Roi

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2006

[HiDE]

Good, 55's are crap anyway.

*obviously ran into one on a random arena winning streak*