GW Model Viewer

mYst36

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2006

Is there a model viewer for Guild Wars, like the one for World of Warcraft? I can't find one anywhere...

-Thanks

Opeth11

Opeth11

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

Richmond, British Columbia, Kanada

Demon of the Fall [Opet]

Mo/Me

Perhaps a description of what a 'model viewer' is? Not all Guild Wars players have played World of Warcraft.

Maybe the name is self explanatory, but who knows what types of evil names Blizzard can come up for things.

Mandy Memory

Mandy Memory

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2005

USA

Xen of Sigils [XoO]

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I would assume it views the character models (or maybe every model)

Either way there isnt one that I know of.

SnoopJeDi

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

Saved By My Pinchers of Peril

R/N

I have seen some videos of WoW interfaces that show a 3d render of your target, but you could be talking about a mesh viewer or something.

Either way, no.

cangeman

cangeman

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2005

Point Of No Return [NORE]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mandy Memory
I would assume it views the character models (or maybe every model)

Either way there isnt one that I know of.
You are correct. I used to play around with model viewers for both Final Fantasy XI and World of Warcraft to check out different character models/equipment/animations. I've yet to see a GW model viewer though.

EternalTempest

EternalTempest

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

United States

Dark Side Ofthe Moon [DSM]

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As far as I know the gw.dat file has not been "cracked" yet to be able to extract resources.

I did see a wiki devoted to being able to extract the gw.dat file and they sounded like they made progress but did not say how they did it. Something about there is no file stop / file start markers in the gw.dat (one big file but the client knows where the files start and stop that it needs. I don't remeber the site off hand.

I'd say give it time.. then beware of keyloggers if it shows up.

Replicant

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

R/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by EternalTempest
I did see a wiki devoted to being able to extract the gw.dat file and they sounded like they made progress but did not say how they did it. Something about there is no file stop / file start markers in the gw.dat (one big file but the client knows where the files start and stop that it needs. I don't remeber the site off hand.
Site you're referring to is: http://wiki.xentax.com/index.php/Guild_Wars_DAT
and a little more talking of it.: http://wiki.xentax.com/index.php/Talk:Guild_Wars_DAT

I Personally wish Anet would allow us to see the files in there, as that could open up things such as Character Builders (such as armor looks, colors, facial features.. etc..) but think they don't want people to make KeyLoggers hidden in the Character Builders.

one guy said he extracted 9104 files from it, just wish he gave a how-too... i just wanna see whats in there, not modify them.

SnoopJeDi

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

Saved By My Pinchers of Peril

R/N

I don't really see the point in extracting data, because you can't really add anything onto the game. The models, textures, and sounds are probably in their own format anyway.

The only benefit from messing with the DAT file I can see is more hacking.

TheMosesPHD

TheMosesPHD

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2006

Oregon

Mo Mo Patty Blinks [MoMo]

R/

Well you could replace the all the models with new models, or mix them up so, at least on your own screen, you look like an avicara or all trolls have neon skin or just basic visual nonsense.

Eet GnomeSmasher

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2005

In my head

Quote:
Originally Posted by SnoopJeDi
I don't really see the point in extracting data, because you can't really add anything onto the game. The models, textures, and sounds are probably in their own format anyway.

The only benefit from messing with the DAT file I can see is more hacking.
Pfft. Just because you can't see why doesnt mean the only intention is hacking...

Anyway, there are artists and 3D modellers or even just the curious who just like to take a look at the models, textures and sounds. It's sort of a way to learn how things are done or just to appreciate it. Pffft hacking is the only benefit...pfft!

SnoopJeDi

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

Saved By My Pinchers of Peril

R/N

Look at the models, textures, and sound? I can think of one good place that doesn't require hacking a binary data file...

Like I said before, the aforementioned are most likely in a proprietary format (see: id software), and would require separate software written based on experimentation (see: goliathvt's md5mesh viewer and exporter etc.)

I can only see abuse stemming from it, ie. replacing all monk skins with neon-green, all mesmer with neon-pink, etc. to give an unfair advantage in identifying targets at range to the modifier of the data. Feel free to propose something that is actually worth the work, other than perusing the assets (once again, I already know a place...)

[edit]Just to clear things up, I'm aware that WoW is fairly extendable, but only within the bounds of Blizzard's specifications.

[editx2] Not to mention:

Quote:
Originally Posted by EULA
(d) otherwise use the Software or the Service except as expressly provided in this Agreement. Title to the Software, and all rights with respect to the Software and Service not specifically granted under this Agreement, including without limitation all rights of reproduction, modification, distribution, display, disassembly and decompilation and all copyright, patent, trademark, trade secret and other proprietary rights and interests are reserved to NCsoft.

Lasareth

Lasareth

Aquarius

Join Date: Jun 2005

Somewhere between Boardwalk and Park Place

To be honest, I don't think that people are really too afraid to break the rules. The real reason is what EternalTempest said:

Quote:
Originally Posted by EternalTempest
As far as I know the gw.dat file has not been "cracked" yet to be able to extract resources.

I did see a wiki devoted to being able to extract the gw.dat file and they sounded like they made progress but did not say how they did it. Something about there is no file stop / file start markers in the gw.dat (one big file but the client knows where the files start and stop that it needs. I don't remeber the site off hand.

I'd say give it time.. then beware of keyloggers if it shows up.
FFXI had some pretty separate and easy files to crack, so it was easy to create an algorithm that can read each file and pull info from it. GW.dat is just one big hunk of file that could take a large effort to decode.

Quote:
I can only see abuse stemming from it, ie. replacing all monk skins with neon-green, all mesmer with neon-pink, etc. to give an unfair advantage in identifying targets at range to the modifier of the data. Feel free to propose something that is actually worth the work, other than perusing the assets (once again, I already know a place...)
This is very unlikely, for the reason above: GW.dat is a huge file that cannot be easily modified.

Vermilion Okeanos

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lasareth
This is very unlikely, for the reason above: GW.dat is a huge file that cannot be easily modified.
Until time gives in
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I do remember that some people accidently encounter a GW debug mode during the beta, where the character lose all their meshes (in game) and show their polygon. That was the closest thing I had seen in terms of "Model Viewing".