Finally Sword has been given 2 powerful elites that work in more situations then HB.
Many thanks to Guildwiki. http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Skills_by_Campaign
Dragon Slash 10 A
If Dragon Slash hits, you strike for +10...34 damage and gain 1...4 strikes of adrenaline.
Quivering Blade 4 A
If Quivering Blade hits, you strike for +10...34 damage. If it is "blocked", Quivering Blade is disabled for 4 seconds, and you are Dazed for 5 seconds.
Dragon Slash is my personal favorite. Combined with "For Great Justice" it can be recharged and spammed.
Quivering Blade can be combined with Plague Touch to put Dazed on a caster who just blocked it with Guardian or something.
anyways anyone else like the new sword skills?
WOOT sword makes a comback (New sword skills)
Guardian of the Light
Phoenix Arrows
I like:
Dragon Slash [E]
Silverwing Slash
Sun and Moon Attack (might be the wrong name)
That's about it ^^.
Dragon Slash [E]
Silverwing Slash
Sun and Moon Attack (might be the wrong name)
That's about it ^^.
Murder In China
I still like Hundred Blades :\
kvndoom
I don't even get the 5 seconds of Dazed. By the time you realize it was blocked and go to cast Plague Touch, you've lost 1 1/2-2 seconds anyway. 3 seconds of Dazed isn't much.
I don't like the self-disabling Elite. I also don't like the hammer elite that knocks YOU down if it doesn't hit. Hammers are being made more gay with each chapter. Please just remove them from the game.
I don't like the self-disabling Elite. I also don't like the hammer elite that knocks YOU down if it doesn't hit. Hammers are being made more gay with each chapter. Please just remove them from the game.
Squirrelly
I messed around with quivering blade and found it to be awesome mostly because it's very spammable.
Guardian of the Light
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Originally Posted by kvndoom
I don't even get the 5 seconds of Dazed. By the time you realize it was blocked and go to cast Plague Touch, you've lost 1 1/2-2 seconds anyway. 3 seconds of Dazed isn't much.
I don't like the self-disabling Elite. I also don't like the hammer elite that knocks YOU down if it doesn't hit. Hammers are being made more gay with each chapter. Please just remove them from the game. But if you have U63R GAM3R R3FL3XS you can get in on in less then a half a second.
I don't like the self-disabling Elite. I also don't like the hammer elite that knocks YOU down if it doesn't hit. Hammers are being made more gay with each chapter. Please just remove them from the game. But if you have U63R GAM3R R3FL3XS you can get in on in less then a half a second.
frickett
I have no twitch skills.
ellemnist
same here... felt bad i couldnt play mez T.T
the negative conditions are just there to balance it out...
for the hammer elite couldnt you just mix it with some stance?
the negative conditions are just there to balance it out...
for the hammer elite couldnt you just mix it with some stance?
qwe4rty
Balanced Stance, I think your looking for. Thats how I used to use Desperation Blow.
Arkantos
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Originally Posted by qwe4rty
Balanced Stance, I think your looking for. Thats how I used to use Desperation Blow.
Dolyak signet would be better for the extra armor
swordfisher
And worse for the no-cancel 75% slowdown. Dolyak Signet should be renamed 'Signet of PvE.'
God Milk
Dolyak Signet is great for PvP Spirit Spammers. R/W's take it along with Whirling Defense and its just long enough so you dont get KD'd while laying down a set of spirits.
Xasew
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Originally Posted by God Milk
Dolyak Signet is great for PvP Spirit Spammers. R/W's take it along with Whirling Defense and its just long enough so you dont get KD'd while laying down a set of spirits.
And that's about the only reason to bring to PvP.
Dragon Slash seems to be teh god when it comes to dps-degen Sword Warriors. I mean Sever+Gash+DS can be spammed pretty fast.
Dragon Slash seems to be teh god when it comes to dps-degen Sword Warriors. I mean Sever+Gash+DS can be spammed pretty fast.
dansamy
I know I am a noob warrior. (I really do hate melee types and archer types.) Why DS after sever + gash? So that DS helps gain adrenaline for your next combo?
Farin
Exactly
M3lk0r
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Originally Posted by kvndoom
Hammers are being made more gay with each chapter. Please just remove them from the game.
Ever watch Last Pride wars hammer lock monks in GWC? Maybe you should learn to play one before making half assed comments about them.
Edit: And to stay on topic, Dragon Slash does seem to be pretty cool. But Sun and Moon is also a welcome addition to the anti evade/block list.
Edit: And to stay on topic, Dragon Slash does seem to be pretty cool. But Sun and Moon is also a welcome addition to the anti evade/block list.
sh4ft3d
Geez, Melkor, no flaming please. kvndoom is an experienced player and has the right to his own opinion. PvE is VERY different from PvP hammerwise. PvP is the only major use for hammers, although more experienced wars use them in PvE sometimes.
M3lk0r
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Originally Posted by sh4ft3d
And calling out to remove an item from a game is not an "opinion", thinking hammers suck is one (though incorrect).
If this is what you consider an experienced player, I am afraid to think about who is an in-experienced player in your eyes.
Anyways, I am not big on trolling and such, wrong is wrong, and I dont realy care who says it.
lambda the great
Where did the swords go?
I'm not too impressed with these new skills :\ I still like Hundred blades 5 seconds dazed isn't great, maybe if it were 10, then it would be better. sorta
I'm not too impressed with these new skills :\ I still like Hundred blades 5 seconds dazed isn't great, maybe if it were 10, then it would be better. sorta
Misc Merik
Id rather see a buff to hundred blades has to potential to be worth the elite slot if anet would ever make it so.
sh4ft3d
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Originally Posted by M3lk0r
And calling out to remove an item from a game is not an "opinion", thinking hammers suck is one (though incorrect).
If this is what you consider an experienced player, I am afraid to think about who is an in-experienced player in your eyes.
Anyways, I am not big on trolling and such, wrong is wrong, and I dont realy care who says it. Are you kidding me. You are essentially dissing a player who has influenced the entire Warrior community. Just because you are in love with the Eviscerate+ Executioners combo doesnt mean everyone is. Following cookie-cutter styles doesnt mean you can call out players for not liking a particular playing style. An experienced player is one who has created many builds, such as kvndooms Titan solo build, which I doubt someone with your intelligence level could. I myself like hammers, but you don't see me insulting someone because of that.
On topic: I think quivering blade could up sword DPS by ALOT. Much better than cleave, and more readily available because of the attack speed of swords vs. axes. I think a Factions/Prophecies war running Quivering Blade, Silverwing Slash, and Galrath Slash would have an amazing dps, making it a more popular future choice than Axes.
Kassad
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Originally Posted by sh4ft3d
An experienced player is one who has created many builds, such as kvndooms Titan solo build, which I doubt someone with your intelligence level could.
Do you also realise hes not the only person ever who has made a warrior build? And you doubt people could equal it because we dont have the uber intelligence level?
I think you should chill out, and take your medication.
sh4ft3d
I was refering to the difficulty of the enemies the build was created for, and yes I like kvndoom, but I am not sure if he has a fanclub(?). As a frequent reader of the Warrior threads, I enjoyed many of his builds for quite varying enemies. I will readily admit that I probably could not have made that build, or many of his others.
Vermilion Okeanos
You guys are off-topic, carry it to PM if you wish to continue.
===================== Sword has never been lost. =/ Neither did hammer. Obviously not axe. Now, sword elite had been lost  Dragon Slash does look interesting, but I would probably stay with the none elite for swords. Sun and moon slash is what I am mainly looking at. OH, and some of the new tactic and strength attribute. Warriors have enough weapon skills, it is really the utility that is making them great.
OverlordTyrael
During the Factions preview event, I was getting attached to Shove ^_^.
sh4ft3d
I apologize for my flaming, and bid people to ignore my previous comments. I was a little touchy, and I posted some rather stupid comments.
JR
I know you said to ignore your comments, but I couldn't let this go.
Originally Posted by sh4ft3d
Quote: Are you kidding me. You are essentially dissing a player who has influenced the entire Warrior community.
kvndoom is a PvE player, so when he says 'Hammers suck, take them out of the game", he is only thinking of half of the picture. He may be Awesome McLeet in the PvE world, but that means exactly nothing as far as PvP goes. Hammers are stronger in PvP, it is a fairly well known fact.
Maybe when he gets a clue and stops making ignorant blanket statements, I would be more willing to listen. audioaxes
"leet" pvE players???
rofl
Beat_Go_Stick
Let it go, guys. I'd rather not continue a flame war between good players for no good reason.
Originally Posted by OverlordTyrael
One thing to realize is that random 12v12 is going to make a lot of PvE skills much more viable in PvP. A single warrior with Doylak for example will be able to hold a capture point against multiple enemies...a single skill, currently only viable for PvE, suddenly might be useful in a PvP situation  Quote: During the Factions preview event, I was getting attached to Shove ^_^.
I also captured this skill in the Factions event and found it to be truly fun. A tactics KD with damage and no exhaustion available every 15 seconds. Add that to the new and improved damage sword skills (and maybe bull's strike) to get a nice non-hammer KD build.
Let's keep this thread on track: It looks as though they have made swords more useful as a damage weapon rather than just a condition spreader with a variable elite skill 
Rey Lentless
I like both of the new skills, and think they'll get play in both pve and pvp. Dazed is something the warrior can work with if they want, and plague touch is an option, but not a necessity either. +42 damage on a 4 adrenal attack is very good. With another galrath slash added, you can have the option of spamming a few +42 damage skills, and have a viable option that doesn't involve final and sever/gash, so I think both of the skills will get some play.
How did a pve'er get flamed for saying hammers suck.. and they suck just as much with factions? I don't think anyone could make a real argument that hammers don't completely blow in pve. Most of the skills in the line are ridicutarded. The line as a whole looks like it's built for anti-warrior arena fools who want to duel. The dependency on weakness is asinine. None of the new skills will get much use. Enraged smash is supposed to be the dps option available to hammers, but it requires your whole bar to make use of it.. and if dps is what you're after, you're much better off with a faster weapon + buffs. But, hammers are fine as a pvp option when considering the few usable skills. The gap between those skills and the rest of the line needs to be bridged though, and the pve could be easily fixed w/ tweaks to a few skills. Off topic like the rest of you, but the dude didn't deserve to get flamed. From his perspective, hammers are worthless. It's not fair to just classify hammers as a pvp weapon (and a limited one at that), and say they're good/fine. Quote:
and more readily available because of the attack speed of swords vs. axes
There's no attack speed difference between the two.
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JR
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ridicutarded
+10 e-streed creds for that truly magnificent word.
And I didn't flame anyone, I said what I think. If the person involved chooses to consider that flaming, then it's entirely their decision. Iraqalypse Now
Dragon slash seems to be rather nice for a midway spike/pressure timeframe damage - here is how.
Charge up to 8 adren. Galrath Slash, Silverwing slash, Sun and Moon Slash, Seeking Blade Now your Dragon Slash is charged. Use dragon slash Galrtah/Silverwing now have 6 adren, sun and moon has 5. With that you can galrath/silverwing after a couple more strikes. Another point is that if most of your help for the spikes is from things like an assassin or ranged damage, you can target swap easily between the spikes: use some of the attack skills on one target, more on a different target, etc. Like galrath/silverwing/sun and moon on one guy, seeking + dragon slash on another. suiraCLAW
i can see teams centering around those skills
-for great justice -dragon slash (at lvl 16, it returns 5 adrenaline) in other words every slash while in fgj deals 40 more dmg. (because dragon slash adrenaline will recharge itself) I would use those build with a ritualist spirit spammer with QZ, in other words, giving yourself a almost constant fgj ^^. the new iway? Skill changes: dragon slash in place of eviscerate, final trust in place of executioner's, fjg in place of the spirit, a spirit spammer in place of the tainted necro .
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