Redundancy of Chapter 1 Warrior armor

Lagg

Lagg

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

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Just like the other million wammos out there, I'm rather excited about the upcoming new armors. But what of our old armors?

Gladiator's will always have its use, because of the energy gain. Also, Sentinel's does require 13 Strength, which is albeit a small price to pay for such massive amounts of armor.

This said, if I recall correctly from the preview event, an armor type was for sale in the Luxon city (apparently not available for pvp) which provided 90 armor +10 vs. physical attacks, which is simply 5 more armor than Platemail/Wyvern, no questions asked.

So what gives?

Evilsod

Evilsod

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2006

England

Lievs Death Squad [LDS]

Its not just warrior armour. Elementalist armour is the same. Every single piece of ele armour atm sucks, unless you somehow have infinite space in your inventory for a full set of each then it might be useful.

Battlemage (the one with +AL to physical) is gonna be my armour of choice the moment its available since physical is used everywhere, unless they seriously improve the old armour.

Rancour

Rancour

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Camp Rancor (Rancour :D)

I'm a free spirit (that's not what the guild is called, I just am)

W/R

The Gladiators Armor can be purchased in a Kurzick version, so we most likely won't see the classic "Gladiator" armor much. As a matter of fact, most of the armor types can be gotten in a Kurzick/Luxon version, so yes, most old armors won't have a use.

I'll still be using the classic Gladiators Cuirass because I think it looks cool, and I'll also be using the collector Ringmail Gauntlets. But the rest will be Kurzick Gladiator/Sentinel armor.

PS: The armor you speak of is Dreadnaught armor, which offers 90 AL and +10more vs. Physical, if I remember correctly.

Raxxman

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

TEOC

W/N

All the warrior armours bar Glads were more powerful in the preview weekend than their chapter 1 counterparts.

Preview Knights 80 +20 vs physical with dammage reduction
Chap 1 Knights/Ascalon 80 +10 vs physical with dammage reduction

Dreadnaughts 90 +10 vs physical
Chap 1 Wyvern/Dragon/Platemail 85 +10 vs physical

It's been well discussed and people feel that this will be resolved, hopefully in the balance coming 15th

I myself am a little more sceptical, sorry

Vermilion Okeanos

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2005

In the distant future of Guild Wars Chapter 7

Ch7 player: OMG! That armor is awesome! Where did you get it!?
Ch1 player: Yea, I know it is awesome. I got it from a secret area in the forgotten past.
Ch7 player: Wha? Anyway... What are the stat on it?
Ch1 player: Add 1337 defense and attribute.

Fred Kiwi

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

[cola]

I wish the male tempest armour had battlemage stats, I'm in love with it.

Evilsod

Evilsod

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2006

England

Lievs Death Squad [LDS]

The way i see it 'Sentinels' armour is the stance tanking armour of the future. Seriously when that armour comes out i wouldn't allow a stance tank in the group unless he wore that. It screams LET ME HOLD THE BOOK/GEAR!

Wonder how long till they nerf it when they decide its a bit too good

Raxxman

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

TEOC

W/N

Legionares<sp> armour is better stance tank armour than Sentinels, 80 +20 vs Phys +10 while in stance. 110 base armour vs the most common attack type vs 100

Evilsod

Evilsod

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2006

England

Lievs Death Squad [LDS]

Legionairres is still only 90 armour to Elemental Damage. Plus when your facing skeletons and such with 'Wild Blow' the stance part is ineffective.

Sentinels is permament 100 to everything and it also means your going to be using Dolyak Signet or what the hell are you doing with that much strength?
It just seems too many 'stance warriors' assume the build is entirely stances. I don't give a damn how many stances you bring aslong as your using Dolyak Signet. When your reducing Abyssals damage to 0, you know your onto something (its easy to do that already with Barrier/Bond but what the hell).

the sinister

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Mar 2006

The Sinister Alliance

W/R

Faction looks very nice, and im excited about the armor most.
Question : Will the FoW armor get a new version of the Factions?

Would be nice if you could show/link the picture, if it would be possible.
The new Faction armors are better of my opinion , but what happeneds with those who havent Factions?
Harder to win in PvP against Faction players.
Or maybe i had wrong about Faction players could visit the GW world , but not GW players to Factions.

Lagg

Lagg

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Evilsod
Sentinels is permament 100 to everything and it also means your going to be using Dolyak Signet or what the hell are you doing with that much strength?
It just seems too many 'stance warriors' assume the build is entirely stances. I don't give a damn how many stances you bring aslong as your using Dolyak Signet.
This man knows what he's talking about.

100 (Sentinel's) + 42 (16 Strength Dolyak) + 20 (Watch Yourself!) + 16 (Shield) + 5 (Defense Grip) = would you like fries with that?

And we're not even talking damage reduction from sup abs and shield mods.

But even then, it's stellar, even without the 21 armor from Shield and Grip when you're holding the Book or so.

NinjaKai

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

UK

Duality Of The Dragon

Quote:
Originally Posted by the sinister
Question : Will the FoW armor get a new version of the Factions?
I'd say there is a pretty good chance of that happening.

white wolfgang

white wolfgang

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2005

Middle Of No Where

(GODS)

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Gaile said their would be a new armor that is equally hard to get, or maybe she was referring to 15k armor, but...

Donut Zeke

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rancour
The Gladiators Armor can be purchased in a Kurzick version
Can someone post a shot of this?

denshuu

denshuu

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2005

Xen Of Onslaught [XoO]

R/W

Quote:
Question : Will the FoW armor get a new version of the Factions?
Most likely not, since FoW is in Tyria.

Burakus Lightwing

Burakus Lightwing

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2005

W/

I can't wait to get the new armor. I really like the "sentinal' 100AL. Looks much cooler than FoW and not as pricey...

Rancour

Rancour

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Camp Rancor (Rancour :D)

I'm a free spirit (that's not what the guild is called, I just am)

W/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by Donut Zeke
Can someone post a shot of this?
There is no way of showing you without showing you something that you've already seen; All armor from the Kurzicks looks the same.

All armor from the Kurzicks will has the skin of what everyone is calling Sentinel Armor, which is in fact wrong. It's not the skin of Sentinel Armor, it's the Kurzick skin. In the same way, all armor from the Luxons has the turtle shell skin, which is what is wrongfully refered to as Berserker armor. However, you could easily go to House zu Helzer and buy Berserker armor that looks like every other kind of Kurzick armor.

That is also why you CAN get Tempest skin with Battlemage stats; Archmage armor is the skin you get on EVERY armor in the Luxon (or is it Kurzick?) armories.

To sum up

1: There are 6 different skins for all armor for all professions in Factions. Canthan skin, Kurzick skin and Luxon skin, together with the 15k counterparts. This is not counting the suspected FoW equivelant armor.

Example: You can purchase Berserker (and all other types) armor in Luxon skin, Kurzick skin, Canthan skin, 15k Luxon skin, 15k Kurzick skin, 15k Canthan skin and, presumably, FoW skin.

2: All stats can be gotten with all 6 different skins. You can purchase Berserker and Dreadnaught armor in House zu Helzer, but they'll both look the same. Likewise, you can ALSO buy Dreadnaught and Berserker armor in Cavalon, and they'll both have the Luxon skin (turtleshell).

3: The above statements count for all professions.

Hope that cleared up some things.

Str0b0

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Carolina

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Evilsod
The way i see it 'Sentinels' armour is the stance tanking armour of the future. Seriously when that armour comes out i wouldn't allow a stance tank in the group unless he wore that. It screams LET ME HOLD THE BOOK/GEAR!

Wonder how long till they nerf it when they decide its a bit too good
considering that a 13 strength means you have to cheap on tactics, the attribute that most stances, if not all of them I haven't checked yet, draw from, I doubt it will be much use for a stance tank.

Nevin

Nevin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2005

Each nation has its own style.

Rancour

Rancour

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Camp Rancor (Rancour :D)

I'm a free spirit (that's not what the guild is called, I just am)

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^Exactly what I meant, but without the screenshots. By the way, the 2 first screenies aren't working.

The Fox

The Fox

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rancour
There is no way of showing you without showing you something that you've already seen; All armor from the Kurzicks looks the same.

All armor from the Kurzicks will has the skin of what everyone is calling Sentinel Armor, which is in fact wrong. It's not the skin of Sentinel Armor, it's the Kurzick skin. In the same way, all armor from the Luxons has the turtle shell skin, which is what is wrongfully refered to as Berserker armor. However, you could easily go to House zu Helzer and buy Berserker armor that looks like every other kind of Kurzick armor.

That is also why you CAN get Tempest skin with Battlemage stats; Archmage armor is the skin you get on EVERY armor in the Luxon (or is it Kurzick?) armories.

To sum up

1: There are 6 different skins for all armor for all professions in Factions. Canthan skin, Kurzick skin and Luxon skin, together with the 15k counterparts. This is not counting the suspected FoW equivelant armor.

Example: You can purchase Berserker (and all other types) armor in Luxon skin, Kurzick skin, Canthan skin, 15k Luxon skin, 15k Kurzick skin, 15k Canthan skin and, presumably, FoW skin.

2: All stats can be gotten with all 6 different skins. You can purchase Berserker and Dreadnaught armor in House zu Helzer, but they'll both look the same. Likewise, you can ALSO buy Dreadnaught and Berserker armor in Cavalon, and they'll both have the Luxon skin (turtleshell).

3: The above statements count for all professions.

Hope that cleared up some things.
If this is true then I can still get the ranger female turtle armor without the "while using a prep" mod YES! I love that look!

Rancour

Rancour

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Camp Rancor (Rancour :D)

I'm a free spirit (that's not what the guild is called, I just am)

W/R

Ranger turtle armor is that of the Luxons, isn't it? Anyway, yes, you should be able to get Luxon (turtle armor, right?), regardless of stats. This is awesome, since we get to even mix and match stats as we like without sacrificing looks.

Of course, we can't be 100% sure of anything yet, but I'm almost completely sure this is the way it'll be. And I think it rocks.

Traveller

Traveller

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Finland

League of Extraordinary Explorers [LOST] (my one man guild)

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Are you guys sure that this is indeed a fact and not just a feature of the Beta event? For example, maybe A-Net hadn't implemented all the graphics yet and that's why the armors looked all the same?

Rancour

Rancour

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Camp Rancor (Rancour :D)

I'm a free spirit (that's not what the guild is called, I just am)

W/R

True, Traveller. It was just a beta event and we don't know everything.

However! Anet clearly stated at some point that we would be getting 6 new armor skins for each profession; if there are more armor skins than Kurzick, Luxon, Canthan and their 15k counterparts, it wouldn't correspond with the 6 skins Anet told us about.

So no, we aren't sure. But evidence supports it.

Mr.Interrupt

Mr.Interrupt

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2006

Clawson, Michigan

The Good Ol Days [BWE]

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Mayhaps there is a reason that Sentinels armor is in C2 and there is not IWAY for C2 only characters? Iway won't have a complete buff