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wheel

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

Topeka, Kansas

Tyrian Fo Lyfe [word]

08 Apr 2006 at 12:11 - 1

There's a bug that allows you to force your weapon displays to disappear, allowing abuse through the fact that your opponent can't see you weapon swap to know which energy set you're using. This could have a significant impact in the current playoffs, as knowing when your opponent swaps to know when to edeny is an important part of edenial in the upper tiers of play. Anyway, the bug is easily reproduced in a very short amount of time:

Take piece of armor off, place in inventory
/dance
Drag and drop the piece of armor from your inventory onto the armor slot in the inventory window. Simultaneously with the release of the armor onto the armor slot, hold down S, E, W, or Q (any movement key).

It might take a bit of playing around with it to get it the first few times you try it, but once you do, you're golden. Your weapons will be hidden from display for the rest of the match until you do another /emote.

This bug was discovered by Slooty Booty and passed on to me. We did further testing to further refine the restrictions of the bug. Anyway, the reason that I'm posting this is so that everyone would know and would be on an even playing field. Information and knowledge of an exploit shouldn't be able to influence a playoff game, and this bug has the potential to do so if the information isn't out there for public dissemination.

Slooty Booty

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

California

Mo/

08 Apr 2006 at 12:20 - 2

*sniff* this exploit is my baby. be good to her.

Acillios

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2005

08 Apr 2006 at 12:33 - 3

Wow..thats pretty nice..just tried it

Asplode

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Chicago, IL

Rebel Rising [rawr]

08 Apr 2006 at 12:34 - 4

It only appears invisible if you do this while in plain sight of the other players. If you do this while the other players can't see you, they still view your weapon normally, from what I noticed.

Woutsie

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Belgium

08 Apr 2006 at 12:38 - 5

tested it and it works :\ gotta be fixed!

wheel

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

Topeka, Kansas

Tyrian Fo Lyfe [word]

08 Apr 2006 at 12:38 - 6

Quote:

Originally Posted by Asplode

It only appears invisible if you do this while in plain sight of the other players. If you do this while the other players can't see you, they still view your weapon normally, from what I noticed.

Just tested this, and it's definitely true. Very interesting.

Cyan The Archer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

Denmark

R/

08 Apr 2006 at 12:41 - 7

Pic if anyone dont believe it:

Slooty Booty

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

California

Mo/

08 Apr 2006 at 12:41 - 8

Quote:

Originally Posted by Asplode

It only appears invisible if you do this while in plain sight of the other players. If you do this while the other players can't see you, they still view your weapon normally, from what I noticed.

You're right. It will have to be done in the middle of battle. Better start working up your speed :P

Feng Leung

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

[Yarr] We Plunder You Now

W/

08 Apr 2006 at 12:42 - 9

Neat..and oh..the consequences

Siliconwafer

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Australia

Shameful Spirits

08 Apr 2006 at 12:46 - 10

Will we see people stopping to breakdance in the middle of the qualifying matches?

Slooty Booty

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

California

Mo/

08 Apr 2006 at 12:53 - 11

if we do then I know reporting this was worthwhile

wheel

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

Topeka, Kansas

Tyrian Fo Lyfe [word]

08 Apr 2006 at 13:17 - 12

Look Ma, no wand!

jmj102

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

W/Mo

08 Apr 2006 at 13:33 - 13

Wow, I just tried this, and it works so well!

Nerdy

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2005

08 Apr 2006 at 13:33 - 14

Tested this and works... Off to the randoms to have some fun. :P

ghostlyranger

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

08 Apr 2006 at 13:41 - 15

and anet have some fun banning ur ass for exploting a bug

Siliconwafer

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Australia

Shameful Spirits

08 Apr 2006 at 13:47 - 16

Oh, I'm pretty sure it'll be fixed quickly. And I wouldn't be surprised if admins asked teams in the playoffs not to use the bug. But while it lasts, I'm finding it fun to beat people bare-handed.

Silent Kitty

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

Netherlands

[TYW] "The Young World"

A/Me

08 Apr 2006 at 13:51 - 17

Be careful. Exploiting bugs, to have advantage, is frowned upon.

Sab

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

08 Apr 2006 at 13:54 - 18

I gotta use this with IW.

Feng Leung

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

[Yarr] We Plunder You Now

W/

08 Apr 2006 at 13:56 - 19

It's the coolest when you end it, since all the animations of your weapon doing attacks/skills all converge into one.

Metanoia

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

08 Apr 2006 at 14:04 - 20

I don't suppose you could use another item instead of armour when doing this, could you?

*Imagines one-handed hammer-goodness*

Nerdy

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2005

08 Apr 2006 at 14:06 - 21

Yep, was fun for a beating people with bare hands. It actually got me thinking that Anet could introduce an all round martial arts expert.

I'd like to see a full array of kicks, blocks, head butt and punch combos.

The Sacred Monk Roo

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2005

Looking for guild

W/A

08 Apr 2006 at 14:50 - 22

Actually this has been around for a while, its just no one really said anything till now...but o well..gg

Josh

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

England, UK

D/Mo

08 Apr 2006 at 14:58 - 23

Y'know, instead of posting how to do it so EVERYONE uses it, you could've left it quiet and just reported it to ANet? Or if you already have, why even post it so EVERYONE knows...?

Cyan The Archer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

Denmark

R/

08 Apr 2006 at 15:21 - 24

Josh: To make sure Anet knows, and so others dont have an 'advantage'. I dont find it unfair to use the bug though - What difference does it make if i can't see if the warrior is using a Sword or an Axe? It's not like we some Anti-Axe or Sword skills, just Anti-Melee.

Savio

Teenager with attitude

Join Date: Jul 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

08 Apr 2006 at 15:35 - 25

Quote:

Originally Posted by wheel

Anyway, the reason that I'm posting this is so that everyone would know and would be on an even playing field. Information and knowledge of an exploit shouldn't be able to influence a playoff game, and this bug has the potential to do so if the information isn't out there for public dissemination.

Knowledge is power. Also, reading comprehension is power.

Wheel and Slooty could have very well kept quiet about this and abused it themselves, and it would take longer for Anet to find out and fix this. If as Roo noted it's been around for much longer, who has been abusing it before this? Until this is fixed everyone is on equal terms.

This particular bug can only be abused in one certain situation, that of Edenial and focus swapping. If that's not involved then it doesn't really affect you other than the shock/coolness value.

Symeon

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

08 Apr 2006 at 15:43 - 26

Some fellow guildies and I are on an ettin-slapping spree outside Beetletun right now.

Just thought I'd blurt that out.

It seems that, in our party of five, even though we have all done it, for each one of us after a while we only see ourselves and one other in the party as having invisible weapons. The others appear to be back to normal, but for different people's views it is different.

Great bug.

Guardian of the Light

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Radicals Against Tyrants

W/

08 Apr 2006 at 16:03 - 27

Don't see how you can explot this after all.

1. Its takes time to do it and you have to do it right in front of you oppenents.
2. You can still see what weapon thier using by how their behaving and what skills they use.

IW mesmer: He He they'll never guess I'm a IW mesmer

*Uses IW*
Warrior: Hmmm that mesmer just used IW
Nerco/Mesmer: I'll get him with Drain enchantment
IW mesmer: he he... what the HEY who took off IW.

3. Most people in RA don't really pay attension to weapons anyway.

Monk/Warrior 1: I'm a smite attack warrior HA HA
Monk/Mesmer: Boon Prot here
Ememy Warrior: Hey that monk is running out LETS GET IT!!

So I don't see whats the big deal. As Savio said only in that situation can it be expoited

wheel

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

Topeka, Kansas

Tyrian Fo Lyfe [word]

08 Apr 2006 at 17:39 - 28

It takes away the ability to see if a monk is on their negative energy set or not. It means that it's harder to effectively edeny a target at the top levels of play.

The Fox

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

08 Apr 2006 at 17:43 - 29

Causing the masses to use a bug will prompt ANet to fix it faster, which is good, right?

Guardian of the Light

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Radicals Against Tyrants

W/

08 Apr 2006 at 18:56 - 30

Quote:

Originally Posted by wheel

It takes away the ability to see if a monk is on their negative energy set or not. It means that it's harder to effectively edeny a target at the top levels of play.

Well you can create the same effect by using identical wands and focuses.

But ya its a tiny little edge.

However before this I didn't know if you were an E-Denail mesmer yiou had to watch out for the negitive energy set. So I feel like a bit of a noob now.

Solberg the Exiled

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Xen of Onslaught

N/

08 Apr 2006 at 19:37 - 31

Yup, just tested this out, works just fine. I don't really know how many practical application this will have other than hiding your energy set. (You will have to do it in front of the memser) but it certainly is cool.

My favoirite part is seeing all the weapon animation going off at once...that's just awsome.

EDIT:
It would seem that this will work only for some class on a epcific emote and not others. I just tested it with my male necro and it was impossible to get it to work with /dance emote since the male necro dance with their weapons shown. You would need an emote that hide your weapons to get this to work.

burai

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Fishermen's Haven

W/

08 Apr 2006 at 19:57 - 32

Quote:

From the Rules of Conduct:

...

18. You will not exploit any bug in Guild Wars and you will not communicate the existence of any such exploitable bug (bugs that grant the user unnatural or unintended benefits) either directly or through public posting, to any other user of Guild Wars. Bugs should be promptly reported via 'Ask a Question' at http://support.guildwars.com.

...

Sorry people -- I'm not trying to be a killjoy

Jiao Yang

Lunar Rabbit

Join Date: Dec 2005

08 Apr 2006 at 20:10 - 33

Thats a great little bug, and very handy too.

Eldin

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

America. How about you, commie?

Fellows of Mythgar [FOM]

R/Mo

08 Apr 2006 at 21:29 - 34

Me and my guildmates went on an ettin-punching run a while ago. Not only did we seem to get more pauldrons than usual, but it was ever so fun! I hope this glitch is around to stay...

Hunter Sharparrow

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

Jeepers Kreepers

R/Mo

08 Apr 2006 at 21:53 - 35

One problem with the quote Burai....the part in brackets. Since this bug does not grant the user unnatural or unintended benefits then it doesn't fall under rule 18 of the Rules of Conduct. Untill its fix it will be fun showing it off to people to see their reactions..and as always I shall tell them after the reaction to help make sure everyone is on a level playing field as intended by the OP and Discoverer.

Seef II

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

US

R/Mo

08 Apr 2006 at 22:15 - 36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Feng Leung

It's the coolest when you end it, since all the animations of your weapon doing attacks/skills all converge into one.

I'm not getting this part.

Feng Leung

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

[Yarr] We Plunder You Now

W/

08 Apr 2006 at 22:33 - 37

like so

Legacy Virus

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2006

08 Apr 2006 at 22:35 - 38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guardian of the Light

Well you can create the same effect by using identical wands and focuses.

But ya its a tiny little edge.

However before this I didn't know if you were an E-Denail mesmer yiou had to watch out for the negitive energy set. So I feel like a bit of a noob now.

this creates more then a TINY edge this is huge, slooty and I are really good friends and we have both watched some of the best edenial mesmers sit there and drain us while we had the wrong weapon set out cause they were confused. this isnt just an edge this is huge.

Sha Noran

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

http://tinyurl.com/2jlusq

Idiot Savants [iQ]

R/

08 Apr 2006 at 23:13 - 39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guardian of the Light

Well you can create the same effect by using identical wands and focuses.

Um, no, you can't. You hide your energy with a -5 Energy melee weapon and an equally obvious offhand (shield, scroll, etc.).

Siliconwafer

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Australia

Shameful Spirits

08 Apr 2006 at 23:50 - 40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hunter Sharparrow

One problem with the quote Burai....the part in brackets. Since this bug does not grant the user unnatural or unintended benefits then it doesn't fall under rule 18 of the Rules of Conduct. Untill its fix it will be fun showing it off to people to see their reactions..and as always I shall tell them after the reaction to help make sure everyone is on a level playing field as intended by the OP and Discoverer.

It does offer unnatural or unintended benefits. Multiple posts have covered this already.
And good e-denial players do watch for negative energy swaps, so don't think there's all this fuss because it's only a slight advantage-it's a very big advantage.