Guild Wars artwork Stolen

Pillz_veritas

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Fun Loving Gamers

R/Mo

Hello! It saddens me tonight to inform you guys that Some of Guild Wars Artwork has been stolen by Another Game....

http://forums.outwar.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=75

Look For the Skill "Blessing From Above" in the above attachment,(page 7 of 9) and Then you will see what I mean O_O Thats the Picture for Vital Blessing! This game uses that icon All over there site to represent that skill! Thievery! Great Just what we need, another Game Company Stealing from Guild Wars.... Sue the Red Engine Gorers!

Eldin

Eldin

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

America. How about you, commie?

Fellows of Mythgar [FOM]

R/Mo

What sort of company is this? Professional, or just a group of teenagers who are extremely bored? Either way, I don't like it. Still, one stolen icon isn't too bad...if they branch out to stealing more concepts, then we can assault them...

TurinPT

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

looks like a nice project, dont bother them.

btw Adrenalin looks like the Obsidian Flesh icon.

Murder In China

Murder In China

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/B/Chan

Looking for one

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It's a website game, nothing more.

Ghozer

Ghozer

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Sheffield, England, UK

Super Cute And Fluffy [scF]

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Outwar has been around much longer than guild wars... maybe guildwars stole it from them?

.killjoy

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

Mo/Me

I would contact Anet about this there may be some copy right stuff broken.

Takkun

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

first of all, it doesn't look a thing like Vital Blessing. There is only one hand instead of two.

Murder In China

Murder In China

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/B/Chan

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It's two hands.

Elena

Elena

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Belgium

as taken from Guildwarsguru skilllisting:

Phoenix Arrows

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

With many other ugly people

We Are All Pretty [ugly]

R/

SUE SUE SUE!

Who had it first? Here's a wild idea: What if it used to be part of ANet? o.O.

It looks exactly the same as Vital Blessing.

[Uchiha]

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

Quote:
Last updated: Wednesday 31st December 1969 07:00:00 PM
It says this on the main page, wonder if it's true.

Eltargrim

Eltargrim

Academy Page

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Canada

Trance of Asgard

E/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by [Uchiha]
It says this on the main page, wonder if it's true.
...1969? You have to be joking.

It's not exactly a huge deal; a little skill picture. Not covered by fair use, but hardly something to get worked up about.

Inureface

Inureface

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

Asian in Lousiana

The Endbringers

R/Me

Lol sunderarmor, if any of you guys don't get it, theres a reallife thing called underarmor with the same logo, so thats something they also stole

Wrath Of Dragons

Wrath Of Dragons

Burninate Stuff

Join Date: Aug 2005

New Mexico

E/Mo

Last updated: Wednesday 31st December 1969 07:00:00 PM

i think theres a 15 year limit on copyright stuff without it being renewed anyways

Sagius Truthbarron

Sagius Truthbarron

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Animal Factory [ZoO]

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What kind of terrible game is this? 10-24 hour cooldown on skills, some of which only affect one enemy o.o

Ulivious The Reaper

Ulivious The Reaper

Desert Nomad

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The Shadowed Assassins

W/Mo

Evercrack, but on paper my friends, it's called DnD rip off :\

Pillz_veritas

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Join Date: Jun 2005

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R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sagius Truthbarron
What kind of terrible game is this? 10-24 hour cooldown on skills, some of which only affect one enemy o.o


A game where everything is based on having seniority and having the best armor and weapons in the game where skill means nothing.... Basicaly its Everything guildwars is, but backwards.

Murder In China

Murder In China

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/B/Chan

Looking for one

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True, I played it a little while. It was kinda of addicting.

KamikazeChicken

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/

Swiftness looks like Amnity.
Cripple looks like Ob. Flesh.
Adrenaline looks like Ob. Flesh.

Racthoh

Racthoh

Did I hear 7 heroes?

Join Date: May 2005

Scars Meadows [SMS], Guild Leader (Not Recruiting)

Rodgort is Trogdor spelt backwards from the Homestar Runner website. Why aren't they suing?

TheMosesPHD

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Oregon

Mo Mo Patty Blinks [MoMo]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Inureface
Lol sunderarmor, if any of you guys don't get it, theres a reallife thing called underarmor with the same logo, so thats something they also stole
Ya i saw that one too

This looks like some private game that some ppl made up to play with their friends or a small online community. I wouldn't make a big deal about it...

Sakashi

Sakashi

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Join Date: Sep 2005

United Kingdom

[VII] The Midgar Zolem

E/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Racthoh
Rodgort is Trogdor spelt backwards from the Homestar Runner website. Why aren't they suing?
Because what would be stupid. I don't know about the crazy suing laws in the USA, but i think as long as it's not identical to the orginal you can get away with it.

I.E Kilroy Stoneskin / Leroy Jenkins


This outwar thing looks like some crappy web based mmorpg thing with skills stolen from all different mmorpgs. Probably stolen artwork from them too, hope it gets closed down tbh.

Kakumei

Kakumei

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Join Date: Jul 2005

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learn this please

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wrath Of Dragons
Last updated: Wednesday 31st December 1969 07:00:00 PM

i think theres a 15 year limit on copyright stuff without it being renewed anyways
That's obviously a default date. The 'internet' wasn't even around in 1969.

Ristaron

Ristaron

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Canada, eh?

Legion Of Valhalla

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I'm with Kakumei.

Rayea

Rayea

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Join Date: Jun 2005

west yorkshire, Uk

Sisters of Serenity

N/Mo

usually, so long as no one makes any serious money, no one cares (except the fans)

i mean, by artwork *borrowing* patrick woodruff should be sueing Games Workshop, since one of their crappy space marine warhammer2k units has been shown in their magasize holding a banner that has his artwork ripped off on it, *the hedgebank nun, recolored in blues and greys*

to show the other example, of cash involved....remember Blakes seven? remeber the spaceship from it, that thing with the 3 green engines, they called the Liberator? well a guy used to make models of it, even made models in kit form that you could buy from shops.
once he made enough cash that the bbc nd similar companies took notice of him, he was dealt with and shut down and so on...

so as long as they dont make any money or at least, and SERIOUS money form it.....most groups say, Who Cares?

Cottage Pie

Cottage Pie

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

Birmingham, England

Taking Aegis

Mo/Me

I think a bit of borrowing and ripping-off is good and only natural.

Bale_Shadowscar

Bale_Shadowscar

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Manchester, England

New Dragons [NDR]

Just some game having a little harmless fun. They're hardly making money from it. I was contemplating setting up an RP forum using skills and using some GW icons to represent them. Would that be unacceptible? I think not.

Sidra

Sidra

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2006

CT

NITE

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For adrenaline and cripple, icons were also stolen from GW. I also think that most of the other skill icons were not made by that group of people, all of them seemingly too proffesional for something like that.

SnoopJeDi

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Join Date: Nov 2005

Saved By My Pinchers of Peril

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It's outwar. Explanation: found.

The Renegade Healer

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2006

NYC

Go Hoax Yourself [HOAX]

Mo/Me

A few stolen peices of artwork is nothing to go crazy about, IMO. They're just Icons.

LifeInfusion

LifeInfusion

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Join Date: May 2005

in the midline

E/Mo

Funniest part is the Vital Blessing icon is probably the most detailed skill icon of all of them.

Outwar sucks anyway. It is only for people that have nothing better to do but spam the link to their friends to trick people for "points"

Studio Ghibli

Studio Ghibli

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

Gaelic Storm

Cripple and Adrenaline both look like they were taken from an old-school game called Meridian 59--the spells "Enfeeble" and "Super Strength," respectively.

See http://www.gilcon.net/meridian/ for more info.

Obsidian Flesh is much too detailed to be the original artwork. Let me see if I can somehow link the images from Gilroy's.. I doubt it, though.

http://www.gilcon.net/meridian/image...r_strength.gif <-- Look familiar?

http://www.gilcon.net/meridian/images/qor_enfeeble.gif <-- This isn't isn't as obvious. But I still think it was the source.

- edit -

Actually, the more I look at it, I don't think they used Enfeeble. Rather, they just took Super Strength and flattened the bicep. ;P

Pillz_veritas

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Join Date: Jun 2005

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R/Mo

75,000 addicted players each that spen about 10$ a month on this game and the money they get from advertisements make the owners a nice little profit...

hidden_agenda

hidden_agenda

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Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wrath Of Dragons
i think theres a 15 year limit on copyright stuff without it being renewed anyways
I could be wrong, but copy-righted material are owned in perpetuity. This is why properties like Conan and Lord of the Rings are still making ALOT of money for their corresponding estates.

I believe that you are think about design patents (I think) which used to last 15 years (it's now 10). There is also an utility patent which last 19 years.

Nevin

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Lets see how much ANet pays us to keep quiet.

Numa Pompilius

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At an Insit.. Intis... a house.

Live Forever Or Die Trying [GLHF]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wrath Of Dragons
i think theres a 15 year limit on copyright stuff without it being renewed anyways
Copyright doesn't need to be renewed; it is automatically created upon creation of the work, and expires _50 to 70 years after the death of the artist_.

LOTR, for instance, doesn't go public domain until 2043. Plus the length of copyright has been repeatedly increased; there's an old joke (with considerable truth in it) that the length of copyright period is increased every time Mickey Mouse is about to go public domain.

Basically, for computer stuff, no copyrights have ever expired.

Alleji

Alleji

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

Most of the icons for their skills are just generic images (mushroom cloud on one skill? ) and look like they came from Google Image Search. I'm betting whoever made that doesn't even know where the vital blessing icon comes from. Go figure.

Lateralus

Lateralus

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W/Mo

I hate it when ppl acuse other of this... You cant make a game without really coping anyone els..

master_ranger_matt

master_ranger_matt

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Salt Lake City, Utah.... no im not mormon

Radicals Against Tyrants [RAT]

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Sunder Armor/ lol, like under armor, it even has the logo.

Studio Ghibli

Studio Ghibli

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Join Date: Apr 2005

Gaelic Storm

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lateralus
I hate it when ppl acuse other of this... You cant make a game without really coping anyone els..
If you had bothered even reading the thread..

.. it's not an issue of copying ideas.

It's an issue of actually STEALING the artwork.

They didn't draw it and--oops!--their artwork looks similar to Guild Wars artwork or Meridian artwork. It IS the aforemention's artwork.