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Ninetail Trickster

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

A pleasant place that needs more rain. T_T

The Rose Society

09 Apr 2006 at 21:35 - 1

I think the Forgotten were nerfed. Or the henchies all turn into Glint while you're afk.
I'd heard Dunes of Despair was an easy mission, so I figured I'd hench it like I've done the rest. I take Alesia, Lina, Stefan, Reyna and Orion, because I'm already level 20 and don't care too much about items. I just want my Ascension, right?
So I'm going through, and I agree- easiest mission evar.
...then the dog starts bothering me. Terrier mix. Willful little brat. So I figure I'll take him on a walk after the mission, right?
Well, the Ghostly Hero gets to the throne, and the timer pops up. I figured the mission was done with, I didn't realize it had over ten minutes left.
Sooo... as the Arcanists pour in I say 'forget it', set my status to Away, minimize the window and take the dog out.

I come back to the computer about twenty minutes later, and I'm in Augury Rock. An unclaimed items window is in the upper-right corner of the screen. It seems the henchies beat the mission for me.

They take a lot of flak, but anyone else had the henchies go above and beyond the call of target?

Josh

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

England, UK

D/Mo

09 Apr 2006 at 21:49 - 2

Hehehe, nice job man.

Well done.

Ulivious The Reaper

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

The Shadowed Assassins

W/Mo

09 Apr 2006 at 21:51 - 3

never, hell in thk i ended up tanking 3 swarms of enemeies because everyone died but mhenlo

Omnidragon42

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

Pantheon of Shadows [dei]

W/A

09 Apr 2006 at 22:14 - 4

We where gvging today, running 7 wammos and a healer hench just to be funny. 6 of us were dp'd out, but then the healer hench ran around ressing everyone, we were able to put up one last offensive before we lost (managed to run em out of our base too). It was hilarious.

Murder In China

Banned

Join Date: Sep 2005

/B/Chan

Looking for one

W/

09 Apr 2006 at 23:24 - 5

You lost because you didn't Echo Mending.

Ninetail Trickster

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

A pleasant place that needs more rain. T_T

The Rose Society

09 Apr 2006 at 23:26 - 6

Quote:

Originally Posted by Murder In China

You lost because you didn't Echo Mending.

I haven't laughed so hard in a week.

Kool Pajamas

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2005

Maryland

Mage Elites [MAGE]

09 Apr 2006 at 23:27 - 7

Dunes is really easy. I've done it with 2 level 7's in the group.

Josh

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

England, UK

D/Mo

09 Apr 2006 at 23:29 - 8

Quote:

Originally Posted by Murder In China

You lost because you didn't Echo Mending.

Dude...think outside the box, why go for Echo Mending when you can Arcane Echo as well?

Arcane Echo, Mending, Echo, Mending, Mending.

Man...invincible 2x and 3x the power.

Fred Kiwi

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

[cola]

09 Apr 2006 at 23:41 - 9

Quote:

Dude...think outside the box, why go for Echo Mending when you can Arcane Echo as well?

Arcane Echo, Mending, Echo, Mending, Mending.

Man...invincible 2x and 3x the power.

hahhahhahhahahaaha

artay

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

Australia

The Agony Scene

E/

09 Apr 2006 at 23:45 - 10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kool Pajamas

Dunes is really easy. I've done it with 2 level 7's in the group.

Yes it is really easy. (so wat if it took me 5 tries)

Akhilleus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

If it aint expensive, it aint worth buyin'.

Leading/Co-leading Bretheren Of Chaos [Dark]

W/Mo

09 Apr 2006 at 23:45 - 11

meh...my guilds elite build is of unparalleled greatness...
each of us brings 8sig caps, then once an enemy soldier dies, we attempt to cap their skills...when this fails, we run around in circles like idiots, and start crying like small children.
the enemy, in all the confusion, ragequits.
Victory.

tuperwho

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Tenacious Knights of Doom [TKD]

09 Apr 2006 at 23:51 - 12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Akhilleus

meh...my guilds elite build is of unparalleled greatness...
each of us brings 8sig caps, then once an enemy soldier dies, we attempt to cap their skills...when this fails, we run around in circles like idiots, and start crying like small children.
the enemy, in all the confusion, ragequits.
Victory.

Brilliant. Does it work well?

To the OP: Pretty sweet. I would have thought that he lack of a target caller (you) would have decreased the henchies functionality. Guess the low numbers and slow rate of enemies allowed them to overcome it, though. Now if only you could let them kill the doppleganger, too

Edit: Akhilleus, your build might only be trumped by running around, selecting the other team, and trying to cast Charm Animal.

Ulivious The Reaper

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

The Shadowed Assassins

W/Mo

09 Apr 2006 at 23:52 - 13

ROFLMAO, i can so see that in a gvg XD!

Murder In China

Banned

Join Date: Sep 2005

/B/Chan

Looking for one

W/

10 Apr 2006 at 00:18 - 14

I'm using Charm Animal on xxxxxx!

Target can't be charmed.

OMFGWTFBBQKTHXBAI

sarcasteak

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2006

Kaineng Center

[Moe]

N/

10 Apr 2006 at 00:33 - 15

Your henchies may have been blessed by terrain abusement. The pair of Forgotten Arcanists or whatever they were called often start targetting the Ghostly Hero before they even get on the ramp and sometimes become content at waving their wands at him instead of casting any spells. Since the NPC is situated on a higher ground with some obstacles blocking the wand trajectory, he doesn't get hit at all. Have more than two groups of these snakeys do this at each side, and most Enchanted as well as bosses can get blocked off completely...the very few that do get through will get ripped apart by Alesia and gang by virtue of superior numbers. xD

Omnidragon42

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

Pantheon of Shadows [dei]

W/A

10 Apr 2006 at 01:03 - 16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Murder In China

You lost because you didn't Echo Mending.

Had Mending, forgot Echo. We suck

Age

Hall Hero

Join Date: Jul 2005

California Canada/BC

STG Administrator

Mo/

10 Apr 2006 at 01:49 - 17

Well I henched Dragons Lair after 2 attempts with real ppl without succuss.I took my time and got a very high morale boost of 10% and it work I beat the mission got my elite and didn't beat Glint but that is ok.Dunes is one of those you can use henchies on but the other 2 I would rather not.

EF2NYD

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

10 Apr 2006 at 01:53 - 18

Yeah echo mending was funny probably 5 months ago in Guild Wars. GG

Hunter Sharparrow

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

Jeepers Kreepers

R/Mo

10 Apr 2006 at 02:01 - 19

I managed to kill Glint with henchies after making a few unsuccessful attempts with people but I was an interupt ranger and when she couldn't use her skills she became rather easy.

Josh

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

England, UK

D/Mo

10 Apr 2006 at 02:04 - 20

Quote:

Originally Posted by EF2NYD

Yeah echo mending was funny probably 5 months ago in Guild Wars. GG

Dude just because Mending is too cool of a skill for you, hell, it should be Elite it's that damn good. But then they'll nerf my 3x the power and I can't use 'Echo' AND Arcane Echo, so I didn't send ANet that suggestion 'quite' yet.

Just for a side-note, I just did The Dragon's Lair Mission with 7 Henchmen and my level 16 R/Me, but we failed to kill Glint by about a fracture of HP.

Esprit

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

Dvd Forums [DVDF]

E/

10 Apr 2006 at 02:12 - 21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Josh

Dude just because Mending is too cool of a skill for you, hell, it should be Elite it's that damn good. But then they'll nerf my 3x the power and I can't use 'Echo' AND Arcane Echo, so I didn't send ANet that suggestion 'quite' yet.

Lol, nice picture.

Rathcail

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2006

10 Apr 2006 at 02:14 - 22

I like henchies

Think I should do those Ascalon quests someday...

Ninetail Trickster

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

A pleasant place that needs more rain. T_T

The Rose Society

10 Apr 2006 at 03:12 - 23

Ahhh thread derailed. >_<
Another tidbit:
During the Factions preview event, I'd made a Rit/Nec to test the new animated undead. I'd taken two healer henchies with me. I went afk for over an hour(? give or take, I forget) in an instance, and when I returned, the healers had kept two fiends alive, desperately fighting the -10 degen. Sad thing is, they were pulling it off.

Sha Noran

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

http://tinyurl.com/2jlusq

Idiot Savants [iQ]

R/

10 Apr 2006 at 06:22 - 24

One time, just to test Henchie heal power, I took 7 of them with me into Abaddon's Mouth. Upon reaching the front gate I took a sharp right and centered myself and the team in the large lava pool there. I wanted to see how long we could last before degen became >hench... it never did. I ragequit after a while when I decided it was too boring.

Gonzo

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2006

Netherlands

Defenders of the Blackblade [DotB]

W/

10 Apr 2006 at 07:03 - 25

With the upcoming AI update for henchies, will they still be as usefull?
I'd hate it when I invite Alesia and she ragequits in the middle of the mission because she is surrounded by Stefan and Little Thom who rush in everything we see.

draxynnic

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2005

[CRFH]

10 Apr 2006 at 12:39 - 26

Heh. I had a similar experience recently with Iron Mines of Moladune - the only PUG I could find insisted on running to the seer (and didn't even seem to know the proper way to do it - they seemed to absolutely refuse to run as a group to force the mobs to either split their fire or let people through unscathed) so after the third failure I decided that I'd fought much harder mobs with henchmen than anything in the mission. Sure, fighting through does take longer than the typical 'infusion run', but it's certainly faster than multiple failed attempts at running...

PLus there's all the nifty gold and experience, too.

Lady Lozza

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

Oz

Angel Sharks

Me/N

10 Apr 2006 at 12:48 - 27

Actually I prefer to hench Elona, I've had so many problems with that mission because people just wouldn't play as a team.

But that is cool, I might have to try that out... Actually anyone with fraps feel like doing that???

Hench Dunes and leave the henchies to do the end part themselves? I'd love to see a vid of it.

Count to Potato

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2006

Imagination Land

I Swear She Was Eighteen [Gwen]

W/

10 Apr 2006 at 15:44 - 28

I tried going afk at Dunes and i lost, and i Echo mended!? FTL???

Ctb

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

W/

10 Apr 2006 at 15:48 - 29

Just cast Restore Life on yourself, I don't understand what the problem is?

That brings me around to the concept of skills that require touching yourself...

Silent Kitty

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

Netherlands

[TYW] "The Young World"

A/Me

10 Apr 2006 at 15:58 - 30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ctb

Just cast Restore Life on yourself, I don't understand what the problem is?

That brings me around to the concept of skills that require touching yourself...

I hope you wash your hands often

Traveller

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Finland

League of Extraordinary Explorers [LOST] (my one man guild)

Me/

10 Apr 2006 at 16:25 - 31

Henchmen > PUG's on most occasions.

However, there are two things about henchmen that bug me:

1) The healer henchies insist on resurrecting their mate should he/she fall in combat above EVERYTHING else. This usually goes down as Mhenlo running in the middle of a mob to use Restore life on Lina and kills himself in the process too. Why can't they have the other henchmen use rez signets in-combat and let the remaining healer concentrate on healing?

2) If the monsters steer clear of AoE damage, why can't henchmen? They stand happily in a meteor shower and/or lava.

And one more: 3) The fighter henchmen should know to break off from fighting when appropriate. You just can't have Thom and Devona retreat (or God forbid, pull).

quickmonty

Ancient Windbreaker

Join Date: May 2005

10 Apr 2006 at 16:39 - 32

More than once I hav gone AFK when I thought I was in a clear area, only to come back and find dead bodies and loot strewn about from some patrolling mobs, and the henchies still standing there waiting for me.

felinette

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

Girl Power [GP]

Me/

10 Apr 2006 at 16:45 - 33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Traveller

1) The healer henchies insist on resurrecting their mate should he/she fall in combat above EVERYTHING else.

Yeah, I hate this. And if the human player has a resurrect skill (not rez sig) and is dead in a safe place, the henchies should resurrect the player first. The human is often smart enough to run until things cool down. The henchies aren't. I can't tell you how many times I've yelled at my monitor when one of the healer henchies is resurrecting another one in the middle of battle, while I'm lying off at some distance where I could be safely resurrected, run, regroup, and try again.

The healer henchies also seem slow to recognize that someone's health is being drained.

Quote:

2) If the monsters steer clear of AoE damage, why can't henchmen? They stand happily in a meteor shower and/or lava.

Agreed. Obviously Anet knows how to program that into the AI--it did it for monsters.

As for the ascension missions, my warrior henched all three of them without too much trouble. She's currently at Iron Mines of Moladune and has henched everything so far except one bonus and one optional quest.

I have several other characters. On the weekend, I made it a point to group with other humans, since GW is an online multiplayer game. The only thing it accomplished was to make me consider giving up on playing GW. About 15% of the groups were decent, but even with those, everyone tends to rush through the mission. The others were lousy--juvenile behavior, going afk, dropping out with no warning, no coordination, no listening to anyone who was trying to lead, a seeming lack of understanding of how to use the skills they have. I'll stick with GW and I'll stick with henchies unless I'm having mega-problems with a mission and just want to get it done.

Most of the human GW players make the henchies look like mensa members.

Mr D J

Permanently Unbanned

Join Date: Jun 2005

10 Apr 2006 at 21:51 - 34

lol, Ive done this mission on a lvl 5 N/Me w/henchies

Akhilleus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

If it aint expensive, it aint worth buyin'.

Leading/Co-leading Bretheren Of Chaos [Dark]

W/Mo

12 Apr 2006 at 06:04 - 35

Quote:

Originally Posted by felinette

Most of the human GW players make the henchies look like mensa members.

im quoting that one. seriously.

Silent Kitty

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

Netherlands

[TYW] "The Young World"

A/Me

12 Apr 2006 at 08:37 - 36

Quote:

Originally Posted by felinette

Most of the human GW players make the henchies look like mensa members.

The funny thing is that you can say this wherever you go and nobody will feel insulted. We all think of ourselves as being 1337 players. Even the biggest noob in GW will still think you're talking about someone else

Thallandor

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Singapore

Seers of Serpents [SoS]

R/

12 Apr 2006 at 08:41 - 37

I think for the HENCHWAY build to exist in HA says alot about hencies we come to love and hate.

Burton2000

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

A cardboard box in England

Men Of Substance [YMCA]

Mo/Me

12 Apr 2006 at 13:56 - 38

Why only echo it twice if your whole party takes it
Arcane mimicry someone elses Echo

Echo mending
Echo mending
Arcane Echo mending
Original Mending=4 mendings=GG

felinette

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

Girl Power [GP]

Me/

12 Apr 2006 at 15:00 - 39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silent Kitty

The funny thing is that you can say this wherever you go and nobody will feel insulted. We all think of ourselves as being 1337 players. Even the biggest noob in GW will still think you're talking about someone else

That's true. I think the real test is to see if you can hench through a lot of the quests and missions. If you can, you're probably competent. I'm positive that some people ALWAYS group and ride on the skill of others, so they never really learn how to use their skills effectively. I see people LFG in pre-searing, and I ain't talking about charr hunting.

One thing you can do when you hench it is experiment with different skill combinations and strategies. If something doesn't work and you find yourself in trouble, the henchies don't drop or call you a noob.

Los Hectorlos

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

o.o

Redemption With Revenge [RwR]

Mo/Me

12 Apr 2006 at 16:49 - 40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Josh

Dude just because Mending is too cool of a skill for you, hell, it should be Elite it's that damn good. But then they'll nerf my 3x the power and I can't use 'Echo' AND Arcane Echo, so I didn't send ANet that suggestion 'quite' yet.

Just for a side-note, I just did The Dragon's Lair Mission with 7 Henchmen and my level 16 R/Me, but we failed to kill Glint by about a fracture of HP.

/agree
Mending pwns jsalfkadjsfl;sdjfl