Is it really a bad thing?

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Edgecrusher
Ascalonian Squire
#1
To run people from place to place cheaper than the usual price?

Because the other day I went to Amnoon Oasis, and I haven't ran the entire desert too often. Usually only for Guild Members I would run it.
I remembered how much I would have to pay just for 7 towns, which was 3500g for all them together.
I didn't want people to be paying that much, and since I didn't run it to often I brought the price down to 200g for a town. 1400g for all of it.
The next thing I know I'm about to leave with the group that I just formed, and someone PMs me...(I want to give away his name just in case people want to complain at him, but I may get in trouble)
and he is complaining at me about how cheap I am running the entire desert. Saying I shouldn't go any cheaper than 250 - 300 per town that I would kill the running community.

I was responded saying something like Dude...leave me alone...I don't want to fight with you, because how cheap I made it.
and he kept going on untill he called me a idiot and blocked me.

Then just an hour ago, I just came into Amnoon and to piss him off I saw him and he was running the desert for 400g a town, and I yelled out Running Entire Desert FREE! Invite Self Now! I don't know if people left his group...but I hope they did....

but really...is it really that bad of a thing if I just brought down the price that much!?

PS: I'm sorry if this is in the wrong fourm, but I thought this was kind of a general topic in a way since it doesn't really consider builds and stuff.
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LordMahal
Krytan Explorer
#2
Boss, you charge what you want, when you want... I run too, and tend not to advertise when I see other runners. I let them do their thing, then I do mine. But thats me. Dont take crap off somebody just cause you charge less. Do it your way.
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Raif Bahlaan
Ascalonian Squire
#3
It's up to you what you charge, but market dynamics still work. If you undercut the competitors by too much, it probably isn't worthwhile doing. You're just missing out on profit for yourself. But if that's not an issue, and you just run for fun, then charge whatever you want.
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Edgecrusher
Ascalonian Squire
#4
Well, I wont advertise when I see other runners, unless like the guy I saw who was annoying me.
Even when I yell out i'm running cause I just warped in, and I notice that someone else was there before me, i'll apologize to the person and say that I'm not running till they leave and wont accept invites till they do leave.

and yeah...i'm just running for fun just trying to get a small profit out of it...i'm not trying to make a killing...^_^
Silent Kitty
Silent Kitty
Desert Nomad
#5
I don't care what runners think. I bring every 18+ character through the Sanctum Cay mission for free. Mind you, I just heal. They have to do the fighting.
Runners charge up to 1.5K for that. When they join me, every party member, who bothers to pick up stuff, gains exp and an aditional 500G. They have to be lvl 18 and up, because that mission requires heavy fighting at the end.

If I was able to run, I would do it for free. All runner are free to hate me. I am not really a runner. Joining me requires them to be good fighters, or at least hold their own.
If a player already did the whole game, and can't be bothered to do it again, they should move on. They don't belong in this game, unless they are here just to laugh at newbies.
I have been ran to Droks myself, but I still play the game. I am not so good in playing this game, so I thought Droks armour would help. Boy, was I wrong
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LordMahal
Krytan Explorer
#6
I do free runs, my first and last run of each day. I tend not to charge the oddball lvl 20 who needs its... quite frankly, a 20 could fight through some places I run. But I know the feeling... its your 50000th time through the game, and want to get some things done fast.
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mega_jamie
Wilds Pathfinder
#7
Ive seen people in Ascalon charging XXX for a Yaks run, and one day I decided to see how hard it was, and did it with my lvl 12 Warrior/Ranger, so went to Ascalon myself to offer Free runs just so people could see how easy it was.

If i was ever able to run Drok's id charge, but smaller runs like that shudnt be charged imo since at a pinch you could rush the first few missions and get to Yaks yourself.

me and these guys in pre- the other day had a bidding war with Spider Legs
"wts Spider legs 10 gld each"
"wts spider legs 9 gold each"
etc etc
no buyers around, really late at night, so we ended up giving them all away for free.

Also I was exp hunting and found myself with bear pelts, didnt see the point in charging so i just handed them out, a couple of people were charging and wernt happy, but who cares, somebody got a good service for better value, economics man
Big_Iron
Big_Iron
Desert Nomad
#8
It's a free market and competition is good for the economy. Charge whatever you want.
Gonzo
Gonzo
Jungle Guide
#9
Silent Kitty: Level doesnt really say anything, I would have an experienced lvl 15 over a unexerienced lvl 20 any time. (With experienced I mean people who know what they're doing, not people who've played for X hours )

If I run, I give free runs (and I don't do mission runs, missions are there to be played imo). Running is a way to kill time for me so I see no harm done in cheaper runs.
fenix
fenix
Major-General Awesome
#10
You have the right to charge anywhere between 1g per person, up to 1 million per person. You may not get customers at the second rate, but it's still your right. There is no body looking over running, deciding how much they are worth. You should charge in proportion to the quality/speed of your run, and how much you value your time.

Edit: Level is regardless, I ran a group from Beacon's to Dreadnaughts Drift at level 10. I wasn't the runner, so I left (didn't want a crap runner to charge me), but I still did it.
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Vusak
Frost Gate Guardian
#11
im more a runnee, its very time efficient to spend maybe 20k to get a character from ascalon to emberlight (via the desert).

i dont mind paying that price, but at the same time i tend to favor those who take tips, my main reasons are:
-seem less gold aggressive - lot less chance of scamming
-theyre either very rich from running - in which case im happy to tip a veteran runner
-or theyre just starting out - and im happy to support the new guys
-theyre offering a chance to the peeps with less money

infact with factions coming up, its useful to know ill be able to get my skill pts spent and new pve characters to replace them uber fast. its like buying skills with gold almost.

in reference to the cost shakeup, i think its nice for a poor player to be able to get a run now and then, and indeed the freeruns help dissuade scammers from bothering.

i think if someone wants to hassle you for offering free runs, they are lacking patience, all it takes is a few mins for you to fill up and be on your way, meanwhile they can go grab a snack or whatever and be back when youre gone to resume advertising.

on the other hand, if youre worried about pissing people off or whatever, just offer to run for tips, that way those peeps whom need a run and have little money pay little, and the guys with uber money pay standard. meanwhile the other runner gets customers by virtue of their perception of what a tip is.
Snowman
Snowman
Jungle Guide
#12
I dont personally see any problem with runners, as for the price.. well charge what you like.

I just think its sad that people rush through the game so quick, what possible advantage could there be?
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Vusak
Frost Gate Guardian
#13
well in my case, im more a pvp player, however ive gone through the game with a ranger, monk, warrior. im currently putting my second ranger through and a necro, and once ive expended skill pts from that necro, ill remake him. and the monk ive put through will be replaced with a mesmer i suppose.

my goal and fun in this game comes from pvp, so i want to have a character for each of the main roles i like to play, thereby freeing up time from constantly remaking characters for pvp, and providing some pve storyline playtime too. plus access to farming runs, unique pve items, more areas etc.

so because of this, im kinda sick of doing the missions over and over again, id much rather skip to the skill collecting and item buying to kit out my characters. i feel i gain nothing more from repeating the storylines, despite the play differences for each character type - i get that play difference from pvp anyhow. and ultimately, being run is sooooo much faster, which means less time planning/waiting/working and more time playing.
Megla Zero
Megla Zero
Lion's Arch Merchant
#14
I charge 2k total for it... I have no clue what the entire cost per town is, but I trust the people I run (and surprisingly, never been scammed ^^) and just get half at Thirsty and the other half at Seeker's. TBH, if I saw you at 1.4k I'd think you were insane for going 600k under what I charge... since I'm usually one of the cheapest runners in the desert (which surprises me... other than the first portal none of the desert is really that hard) but as others have said its your own perogative with what you wanna do. I probably would have whispered you and told you that you were seriously undercharging what you could get, but I wouldn't have hassled you like that. I hate idiots who seem to know 100% what you should be doing. I'd rather just give you a helpful hint and let you do whatever you want
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LordMahal
Krytan Explorer
#15
If I see a runner charging more than me... I whisper and ask if he/she actually gets that. If they say yes, fine, I might jack my price up. Or like Megla said, if somebody is running for less, I might suggest raising it so they can make money but I dont hassle. Just yesterday I saw a guy running Ascalon to Yaks, 3k... 3k!!! But he had customers, so more power to him.
Wheeler
Wheeler
Ascalonian Squire
#16
I would rather run at a lower price and do an extra run to make the same amount of money as the higher priced runners.. I'm like Wal-Mart. I'd rather sell more at a lower price.
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ExDeity
Academy Page
#17
Quote:
Originally Posted by Edgecrusher
To run people from place to place cheaper than the usual price?

Because the other day I went to Amnoon Oasis, and I haven't ran the entire desert too often. Usually only for Guild Members I would run it.
I remembered how much I would have to pay just for 7 towns, which was 3500g for all them together.
I didn't want people to be paying that much, and since I didn't run it to often I brought the price down to 200g for a town. 1400g for all of it.
The next thing I know I'm about to leave with the group that I just formed, and someone PMs me...(I want to give away his name just in case people want to complain at him, but I may get in trouble)
and he is complaining at me about how cheap I am running the entire desert. Saying I shouldn't go any cheaper than 250 - 300 per town that I would kill the running community.

I was responded saying something like Dude...leave me alone...I don't want to fight with you, because how cheap I made it.
and he kept going on untill he called me a idiot and blocked me.

Then just an hour ago, I just came into Amnoon and to piss him off I saw him and he was running the desert for 400g a town, and I yelled out Running Entire Desert FREE! Invite Self Now! I don't know if people left his group...but I hope they did....

but really...is it really that bad of a thing if I just brought down the price that much!?

PS: I'm sorry if this is in the wrong fourm, but I thought this was kind of a general topic in a way since it doesn't really consider builds and stuff.
So, in spite, you decided to offer a free run, basically ruining it for any runners, whether they were that one person who you didn't get along with, or not.

If you expect me to sympathize with you, or CONGRATULATE you, for stiffing some other runners just to justify your personal vendetta against that guy, I won't.
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KvanCetre
Wilds Pathfinder
#18
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Originally Posted by ExDeity
So, in spite, you decided to offer a free run, basically ruining it for any runners, whether they were that one person who you didn't get along with, or not.

If you expect me to sympathize with you, or CONGRATULATE you, for stiffing some other runners just to justify your personal vendetta against that guy, I won't.
Boo-Hoo, he did something nice.

Way to miss the entire point of the post.
Lint
Lint
Wilds Pathfinder
#19
The drok run was once 7k, some one avertised 6.5k, he wanted to beat him so he said 6k.... get my point?
XvArchonvX
XvArchonvX
Forge Runner
#20
Quote:
Originally Posted by KvanCetre
Boo-Hoo, he did something nice.

Way to miss the entire point of the post.
/agreed

Anyways, charge what you want. As for other runners, if you can't make a good profit off a run, then do something else. There are unlimited ways to make money in GW, if something isn't profitable, move on.