Got scammed by a 55 monk who wanted me with him in UW, he said 50/50 on fee and asked for 500, I gave him that and BAM, he left, I checked if he still was online and he was.
For all others who form teams with more players and they share the fee it's a pain in the ass for the one who has to collect the money, and when there is someone who hasn't paid but claims he has paid just to get in free. All this takes time, I know, it doesn't take much time to collect the gold even if everyone does pay.
But I want an alternative to the "offer 1 platina", there should be a "share 1 platina equaly among those who dare to enter" option, of course, 7, 6 and 3 doesn't make it equal, but the richest player get to pay that little extra.
If a player doesn't got the gold on him/her then it just takes from the storage. So everyones happy, those who want to pay the entire 1000 gold themselves get to do so and with a fee splitting option there are no scammers and no waiting for the one who pays to collect money and those who claim they've paid but hasn't.
FoW and UW fee splitting
Naqser
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When I dual UW and ask for 500g for fee I just look at the advantages I can get a ecto, rubies, golds, goldp and other stuff and make more than 3k just from selling cheap items and gold collected.
So why scam when you can make more?
So why scam when you can make more?
Naqser
why are you asking me?
I bet there are those who claim to be 55 monks, apearing to be one, tattos and Mo/W, says what skills they got and so on, but they don't have those skills at all, the runes were to expensive for them and simply can't enter UW cause they are not fit for it, it's easy money for them too, they just scam one at each district, wait a couple of minutes then start again.
I bet there are those who claim to be 55 monks, apearing to be one, tattos and Mo/W, says what skills they got and so on, but they don't have those skills at all, the runes were to expensive for them and simply can't enter UW cause they are not fit for it, it's easy money for them too, they just scam one at each district, wait a couple of minutes then start again.
Ishmaeel
Although I don't see the UW and FoW fees to be one of the bigger problems with the game, auto-splitting option sounds like a good idea. So,
/Signed.
/Signed.
Mr D J
ugh, was this monk asian? I dont trust these guys...
Phoenix Arrows
Hey! I'm Asian! But I don't have a 55-Monk. But yes, fee-splitting would be appreciated. I hate people (the leader) who takes all the money and leaves. While I don't care about the money itself, I'm just pissed that I got scammed.
Phoenix Avenger
I dont like this idea. Report the scammer to ANet/NCsoft (whichever). And its not that hard to find out who payed you the 125 gold or not. It tells you in green text when you complete the trade. And if someone is refusing to pay, either buck up and pay the extra 125 gold (you will earn it back in 3 drops) or kick him out of the group and get a new person. The only thing this idea would do is allow people to be more lazy. (It's not really that hard to ask for contributions, unless your fingers are broken, in which case i suggest taking a break from gaming).
deathdela
i bet this is the same 55 monk that took my 500g then left and was still online. I couldnt be bothered to report him all i did was pm him saying is that how you make your money by scamming 500g from people
Viruzzz
i'd rather see the UW/FoW cost X ammount of gold PER party member
bulletsmile
i got scammed some times and really hate it, not becouse i have lost a little money, but becouse of people that goes so low that they scam...man i would like to take a hammer and smash it through a scammers head.
maybe have an option where everyone MUST pay 125gold each before they are allowed to enter, so when you enter you have automatically lost 125gold and then travells to uw/fow.....or one guy could pay it all..
maybe have an option where everyone MUST pay 125gold each before they are allowed to enter, so when you enter you have automatically lost 125gold and then travells to uw/fow.....or one guy could pay it all..
Mr D J
Don't misunderstand the word Asian in my post... It's not in a racist way its in a way... like some Xan Sin Lin (example IGN) guy who works for 1 dollar an hour in Korea or somewhere and scams people and then sells money on ebay...
awesome sauce
I dont understand why teams decide to pay the leader BEFORE they enter. It's just as easy and more secure to pay afterwards. And, If a leader claims that they cant afford the 1k to get in, then they're probably not experienced enough to be leading the group in the first place.
Naqser
Now, allowing people to be more lazy, then you might as well skip the dye mixing and coloring armor NPC disscusion, the skill trainer NPC and throw out all skills in quests and the wild, and either skip the Balthazar priest so you have to use a PvE character to unlock skills or make the priests only available to PvP characters to not make them lazy and have to work to get something.
Paying before is better because there is a chance that some players are morons and don't pay when they get in.
The money itself a few times isn't a problem, but get in for free a dozens of times add up pretty good, just by getting in free 10 times it's 1250 gold, 100 times makes it 12500 and add the drops too, does he deserve a shard, ecto, key or gold items?. When you pay taxes in real life, there are allways people who deciev the government. They don't pay taxes and also get benefits, tax payers actually pay those for doing nothing. Okay, they don't get alot of money but still, would you like to pay a complete stranger without work monthly when he lives in your house, eat your food, sleep in your bed. All for the money you worked so hard for. And no, I'm not talking about your kids.
Also there has been an increase of new players doing FoW and UW and i don't think they want to get scammed the first times they pay for FoW and UW, and they might be eager to see an area they haven't been in before. I see it only as time saving and helping players get a better time, and get rid of a part of scamming.
Paying before is better because there is a chance that some players are morons and don't pay when they get in.
The money itself a few times isn't a problem, but get in for free a dozens of times add up pretty good, just by getting in free 10 times it's 1250 gold, 100 times makes it 12500 and add the drops too, does he deserve a shard, ecto, key or gold items?. When you pay taxes in real life, there are allways people who deciev the government. They don't pay taxes and also get benefits, tax payers actually pay those for doing nothing. Okay, they don't get alot of money but still, would you like to pay a complete stranger without work monthly when he lives in your house, eat your food, sleep in your bed. All for the money you worked so hard for. And no, I'm not talking about your kids.
Also there has been an increase of new players doing FoW and UW and i don't think they want to get scammed the first times they pay for FoW and UW, and they might be eager to see an area they haven't been in before. I see it only as time saving and helping players get a better time, and get rid of a part of scamming.
Mister Muhkuh
dont go with PUGs if u dont want to risk 500g...
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Although I don't see the UW and FoW fees to be one of the bigger problems with the game, auto-splitting option sounds like a good idea. So,
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I am also in favor of an auto-splitting option implemented in the game.
Upon entering FoW or UW, entrance fees are automatically deducted equally from all players' Character Inventory who are in the PUG.
/signed.
Avarre
Auto splitting would be helpful I suppose, but maybe better as a selectable option... whever I go to FoW or UW either I or group leader pays the full price (it's not like you won't get it back during the run).
Implement as a second option perhaps (To the glory of Balthazar for my party : 1 platinum divided) to go undernearth the pay 1... I generally prefer to pay all just to speed things up.
/semi-signed
Implement as a second option perhaps (To the glory of Balthazar for my party : 1 platinum divided) to go undernearth the pay 1... I generally prefer to pay all just to speed things up.
/semi-signed
koneko
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Don't misunderstand the word Asian in my post... It's not in a racist way its in a way... like some Xan Sin Lin (example IGN) guy who works for 1 dollar an hour in Korea or somewhere and scams people and then sells money on ebay...
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I like Avarre's idea.
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I dont understand why teams decide to pay the leader BEFORE they enter. It's just as easy and more secure to pay afterwards. And, If a leader claims that they cant afford the 1k to get in, then they're probably not experienced enough to be leading the group in the first place.
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Naqser
Avarre, if you look real close I say that if you want you can pay everything yourself
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Dougal Kronik
What if each person paid 1 platinum to enter the UW and Fow solo. Then when you were there you had a kind of outpost where you could create your party before entering the actual zone.
It would definitely get rid of scammers. And maybe even have the ability to Travel To the area after a screen pops up requiring your 1 Platinum.
It would definitely get rid of scammers. And maybe even have the ability to Travel To the area after a screen pops up requiring your 1 Platinum.
Los Hectorlos
lol its sad when someone can't afford to pay 500g or 125g
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Drow Lor
Why not just solve the problem and join a guild or make one yourself. Do some recruiting! Use a VOiP program like Teamspeak or Ventrilo....That is what my team does...it makes for alot better gaming and we take care of each other...we dont split costs, we do share profits. Bottom line...dont go into a business deal with folks you dont know...
=HT=Ingram
I like that Dougal So if you go to underworld or fissure every party member would have to make the offering. Thus the larger the party the larger the offering. SO party of eight 8k cost... 1k from each member... party of two 2k cost, 1k from each member. and have the spirit take it from each not gather it to one person to give. if everyone does not have it... then the spirit refuses until everyone has the 1k to enter.
But to make it more interesting... Have the drops rated on how much was offered... thus Ecto and shards and gold items ect... ONLY drop for large parties because that was the max offering... I actually REALLY REALLY like this idea. this gives the scamming WaMos a good boot size enima. If anything it will promote more Full parties to go to bonus areas.
Less exciting but more practical, have the spirit automatically take the % of the offering from each party member automatically. And if someone does not have the % of gold required entry is not allowed, until they do.
so a wamo Necro party would have 500 taken from each at offering. 1k/2
a 3 ranger 1 mo group would have 250 taken at each offering. 1k/4
a true balanced party of 8 that actually plays the bonus mission would have 125 gold taken at offering. 1k/8
this also serves as a message system to ensure everyone is ready to go as the message box would pop up saying is it ok to take 125 gold to enter the underworld. clicking ok implies that you are ready to go. Clicking no stops the transaction and the offering is cancled.
But to make it more interesting... Have the drops rated on how much was offered... thus Ecto and shards and gold items ect... ONLY drop for large parties because that was the max offering... I actually REALLY REALLY like this idea. this gives the scamming WaMos a good boot size enima. If anything it will promote more Full parties to go to bonus areas.
Less exciting but more practical, have the spirit automatically take the % of the offering from each party member automatically. And if someone does not have the % of gold required entry is not allowed, until they do.
so a wamo Necro party would have 500 taken from each at offering. 1k/2
a 3 ranger 1 mo group would have 250 taken at each offering. 1k/4
a true balanced party of 8 that actually plays the bonus mission would have 125 gold taken at offering. 1k/8
this also serves as a message system to ensure everyone is ready to go as the message box would pop up saying is it ok to take 125 gold to enter the underworld. clicking ok implies that you are ready to go. Clicking no stops the transaction and the offering is cancled.
Naqser
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Why not just solve the problem and join a guild or make one yourself. Do some recruiting! Use a VOiP program like Teamspeak or Ventrilo....That is what my team does...it makes for alot better gaming and we take care of each other...we dont split costs, we do share profits. Bottom line...dont go into a business deal with folks you dont know...
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zamial
i think the proposal is very flawed.ie."ok guys i dont have enough to cover please pay me 125 ea to get into fow"then i hit the split option.see just scammed ya all.(fyi im not a scammer but have seen enough of them to understand the train of thought).......last thoght on this is screenshot and report .......'nuf said
Drow Lor
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Why does hundreds of people then stand in ToA looking for players or parties? Players don't want to start or join guilds just so they can feel secure when joining a FoW or UW party. Okay, it is a good idea but it just doesn't work. I've tried but failed misserably several times, you have to see one thing from differnt point of views to know how something works and not works.
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Naqser
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i think the proposal is very flawed.ie."ok guys i dont have enough to cover please pay me 125 ea to get into fow"then i hit the split option.see just scammed ya all.(fyi im not a scammer but have seen enough of them to understand the train of thought).......last thoght on this is screenshot and report .......'nuf said
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Simply put...be careful!! Given the chance people will screw you...
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Drow Lor
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yes they will, and that we don't want, because even if you don't seem to support this, you surely are against scamming, which I realy hope. So even if you ARE careful, you will get scammed some day.
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fiery
Joker, I'll just call him a douche to reffering all asians as these online cafe sweatshop koreans. If your going to talk about a select farmer race as you were trying to say , lay off the asian word.