Hi all,
I know alot of people including myself have complained about the minimal storage w/guild wars. Is factions going to give us more storage?
Isaac
Will there be more storage with factions?
jgortner
Snowman
LOL,
dont even get me started
dont even get me started
GranDeWun
And now divide by 6 chars, not 4...
Tufty
Yeah I have to use a spare character slot as storage and that dosn't make things easy! Gives me bags of storage though
SaucE
Not upon release. Maybe in the future. You get 2 more characters to store stuff on though.
Rebel Dragon
it would be nice to keep thing into your bags and that you can pull them out with the things still in it. so if you need storage you just pay the little price of 500 gp and 1 rune of holding to ahve a bit more storage for all the armros and weapons etc.. 
Thy Shadow Wolf
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Originally Posted by Rebel Dragon
it would be nice to keep thing into your bags and that you can pull them out with the things still in it. so if you need storage you just pay the little price of 500 gp and 1 rune of holding to ahve a bit more storage for all the armros and weapons etc..
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You fill up a storage box full of bags, then one day you want to bust out your certain items (let's say you're pumpkin hat in this example in the middle of July or something). You go to your storage, and lo and behold... so many bags... all the same. How will you ever find your precious Pumpkin Hat!?
dansamy
God I hope they do expand the storage. Gaile has hinted at it, but of course you can't pin her down on any definitive answer until we actually have Factions in our hot little hands. By then, we'll know for sure too. :/
Snowman
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Originally Posted by dansamy
God I hope they do expand the storage. Gaile has hinted at it, but of course you can't pin her down on any definitive answer until we actually have Factions in our hot little hands. By then, we'll know for sure too. :/
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There has been many speculations as to how they might do this, I wouldnt get your hopes up though, ANET are so tight-arsed about their storage they squeak as they walk
ArisB
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Originally Posted by Rebel Dragon
it would be nice to keep thing into your bags and that you can pull them out with the things still in it. so if you need storage you just pay the little price of 500 gp and 1 rune of holding to ahve a bit more storage for all the armros and weapons etc..
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so you can have like 20 bags which contain 10 bags each in your backpak
and then you can even put bags into the bags wich are in the bags in your backpack.
Sir Mad
Gaile Gray's answer: the number of slots won't change. However, some items will no longer require free slots. She didn't precise what kind of items. My guess is she was talking about crafting material and stuff, since I dont think we may have free storage for weapons and armors.
EDIT: it wont necessary come with factions. But that's an update planned.
EDIT: it wont necessary come with factions. But that's an update planned.
Rhedd
I'm assuming that in the big room that houses the Guild Wars master servers, there are monkeys.
Every time someone puts something into storage, it's printed out and handed to a monkey, who holds onto it and keeps everyone's storage separate.
They simply can't add more storage, because there are only so many monkeys, man! They only have two hands!
Be reasonable!
Every time someone puts something into storage, it's printed out and handed to a monkey, who holds onto it and keeps everyone's storage separate.
They simply can't add more storage, because there are only so many monkeys, man! They only have two hands!
Be reasonable!
Dark Suoon
for me, more characters means more room to carry items in ur bags 
sabretalon
They could always introduce a donkey? ;p
Or for Cantha, a whale..... ;p
As for making it easier etc... That may have been eluded to with the potential ability to buy storage for your guild hall?
I think you should be able to store your materials with the material traders. The problems I can see from storage in your guild is, what happens if you were to part company with your guild or you join a guild who let you fill your storage then kick you from the guild? Even if the guild gave you your stuff back, what happens if you have no storage for the items? Would they then be saying that you must be part of a guild to get the benefits of extra storage? If so then I can see lots of new guilds popping up with only 1 or 2 members using it for their storage!
I think you should be able to pay for the extra space in sets of 5. It costs you to open the basic set then for each set of 5 you open, it increases in price, so after you first open your storage account, you then pay 500g for the next 5 slots, the next 5 slots are 1k, then 2k, then 4k etc... Or have a new rare item that works the same as the rune of holding and doubles the holding space available?
Or for Cantha, a whale..... ;p
As for making it easier etc... That may have been eluded to with the potential ability to buy storage for your guild hall?
I think you should be able to store your materials with the material traders. The problems I can see from storage in your guild is, what happens if you were to part company with your guild or you join a guild who let you fill your storage then kick you from the guild? Even if the guild gave you your stuff back, what happens if you have no storage for the items? Would they then be saying that you must be part of a guild to get the benefits of extra storage? If so then I can see lots of new guilds popping up with only 1 or 2 members using it for their storage!
I think you should be able to pay for the extra space in sets of 5. It costs you to open the basic set then for each set of 5 you open, it increases in price, so after you first open your storage account, you then pay 500g for the next 5 slots, the next 5 slots are 1k, then 2k, then 4k etc... Or have a new rare item that works the same as the rune of holding and doubles the holding space available?
SilentAssassin
I really need xtra storage place, with all those new items - armours etc...
Aeon221
The reason that they are hesistant to expand storage is the super rich players. Every slot opened allows them to increase their wealth massively. Another 5 slots is another 5 stacks of 250 ectos that can be fit in.
The effect is similar for everyone, and would result in a general inflation, since we can all store more wealth. Since Anet (like the fed) is attempting to maintain price stability, it would be counter to their aims to increase storage.
You also have to remember that a major incentive to buy another account is to increase storage space. And since Anet _needs_ every penny it can get its hands on to remain profitable without a subscription fee, it has yet another reason to restrict storage.
More creative players would pay another (trustworthy) player to hold items for them in order to increase their storage. Just ask a poorer guildy, or simply one with less crap.
The effect is similar for everyone, and would result in a general inflation, since we can all store more wealth. Since Anet (like the fed) is attempting to maintain price stability, it would be counter to their aims to increase storage.
You also have to remember that a major incentive to buy another account is to increase storage space. And since Anet _needs_ every penny it can get its hands on to remain profitable without a subscription fee, it has yet another reason to restrict storage.
More creative players would pay another (trustworthy) player to hold items for them in order to increase their storage. Just ask a poorer guildy, or simply one with less crap.
Snowman
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Originally Posted by Aeon221
The reason that they are hesistant to expand storage is the super rich players. Every slot opened allows them to increase their wealth massively. Another 5 slots is another 5 stacks of 250 ectos that can be fit in.
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so what if another player is more wealthy? what use is hoarding wealth? any player who REALLY wants to hoard that much wealth will buy another account.
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Originally Posted by Aeon221
The effect is similar for everyone, and would result in a general inflation, since we can all store more wealth. Since Anet (like the fed) is attempting to maintain price stability, it would be counter to their aims to increase storage.
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If I can store 10x the amount of weapons and sheilds and materials then the market is MORE open to me that ever it was before!
more products, more competitors, cheaper prices..
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Originally Posted by Aeon221
You also have to remember that a major incentive to buy another account is to increase storage space. And since Anet _needs_ every penny it can get its hands on to remain profitable without a subscription fee, it has yet another reason to restrict storage.
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Is this really encouraging me to purchase another account?.. no, because I would be worse off....
This is the argument here, the fact that Factions players who merge accounts will be WORSE off.
Loviatar
has anybody considered that the Cantha branch vault may be empty and waiting for Cantha goodies?
Rayne Nightfyre
We'll live, I guess we'll just have to be more selective/conservative when it comes to carrying Armor, Weapons, and so on. I'm as bad as anyone else, if not worse...look at my Mesmer's inventory issues...
Then add to that the lovely new Attire from Factions, and then my Mesmer becomes unable to pick up drops. I've worn out this idea before, but I think that it would be a wonderful idea to have an Armor storage system. The way it would work is - for each piece of armor you've bought, a drop-down list showing each option for each armor slot would be available. That way for spoiled characters such as my Mesmer, we wouldn't have to waste room with multiple armor sets. Just an idea.
Then add to that the lovely new Attire from Factions, and then my Mesmer becomes unable to pick up drops. I've worn out this idea before, but I think that it would be a wonderful idea to have an Armor storage system. The way it would work is - for each piece of armor you've bought, a drop-down list showing each option for each armor slot would be available. That way for spoiled characters such as my Mesmer, we wouldn't have to waste room with multiple armor sets. Just an idea.
Omega X
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Originally Posted by dansamy
God I hope they do expand the storage. Gaile has hinted at it, but of course you can't pin her down on any definitive answer until we actually have Factions in our hot little hands. By then, we'll know for sure too. :/
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PR with a friendly voice and interaction with fans is still PR no matter how many times you slice it.
People often forget that. You can't take PR talk at face value, this has been proven to be true even in the Guild Wars enviornment.
TheMosesPHD
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Originally Posted by rayne2550
I've worn out this idea before, but I think that it would be a wonderful idea to have an Armor storage system. The way it would work is - for each piece of armor you've bought, a drop-down list showing each option for each armor slot would be available. That way for spoiled characters such as my Mesmer, we wouldn't have to waste room with multiple armor sets. Just an idea.
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Dun make me have to delete my Yule Cap Anet! Plz dun make me!!
Count to Potato
The problem is i have so much stuff that when i carry my stuff with me i cant pick up everythring that i want 
Thallandor
To the OP if you spam support enough they may just give in.......
Its always on their to do list blah blah like the auction house so long ago. They will probably put it in after some massive Nerfage update when they see enough *i hate Joo ANET* threads on the forums to distract players like how they did it for the observer mod after AoE nerf(if memory serves me correctly, i could be wrong about the time frame with both are within each other). Currently extra storage to them still seem like a low priority item along with AH. Some players solve it by buying another copy of GWP (see why its not solved yet?).
Anet got bigger fish to fry with factions in 17 days.
Its always on their to do list blah blah like the auction house so long ago. They will probably put it in after some massive Nerfage update when they see enough *i hate Joo ANET* threads on the forums to distract players like how they did it for the observer mod after AoE nerf(if memory serves me correctly, i could be wrong about the time frame with both are within each other). Currently extra storage to them still seem like a low priority item along with AH. Some players solve it by buying another copy of GWP (see why its not solved yet?).
Anet got bigger fish to fry with factions in 17 days.
Corwin Feist
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Originally Posted by rayne2550
We'll live, I guess we'll just have to be more selective/conservative when it comes to carrying Armor, Weapons, and so on. I'm as bad as anyone else, if not worse...look at my Mesmer's inventory issues...
Then add to that the lovely new Attire from Factions, and then my Mesmer becomes unable to pick up drops. I've worn out this idea before, but I think that it would be a wonderful idea to have an Armor storage system. The way it would work is - for each piece of armor you've bought, a drop-down list showing each option for each armor slot would be available. That way for spoiled characters such as my Mesmer, we wouldn't have to waste room with multiple armor sets. Just an idea. |
Corwin
sabretalon
Maybe they should introduce, the luggage? Just like in the Terry Pratchett books?
Aeon221
You answered yourself Mr Shop Owner guy. You can charge more for items and make more money. Which is itself the problem.
Speakin in econ, increasing storage causes the demand curve to move to the right while the supply curve remains constant (Yay, I can fit another huge buttload of armor! And a few more cool weapons!). This will result in an increase in the price level. As more people respond to the increase in the price level (by farming more) the supply curve will shift to the right, causing a decrease in the price level.
The problem is, without exact knowledge of just how big the shifts are, there is no way to tell whether the cycle is inflationary or deflationary.
Anet does not like that, because it is almost certain to result in inflation (at least for a period of time), which translates into higher costs for beginners who will have to pay more for everything, since they have nothing. This means that the game is less accessible, and therefore there will be less new accounts sold due to bad word of mouth.
Since the goal of any gaming company is to _expand_ its userbase, not just sell to the current one, you can bet your boots that they have considered that issue, and are unwilling to expand storage, at least in part, because of it.
The other reason is definitely that they _need_ that income from purchases coming in as often as possible so that they can afford to pay the rent.
...but yeah, just like in Morrowind, I would love to have some armor storage mannequins.
At least we don't have a buttload of herbs to store.
Speakin in econ, increasing storage causes the demand curve to move to the right while the supply curve remains constant (Yay, I can fit another huge buttload of armor! And a few more cool weapons!). This will result in an increase in the price level. As more people respond to the increase in the price level (by farming more) the supply curve will shift to the right, causing a decrease in the price level.
The problem is, without exact knowledge of just how big the shifts are, there is no way to tell whether the cycle is inflationary or deflationary.
Anet does not like that, because it is almost certain to result in inflation (at least for a period of time), which translates into higher costs for beginners who will have to pay more for everything, since they have nothing. This means that the game is less accessible, and therefore there will be less new accounts sold due to bad word of mouth.
Since the goal of any gaming company is to _expand_ its userbase, not just sell to the current one, you can bet your boots that they have considered that issue, and are unwilling to expand storage, at least in part, because of it.
The other reason is definitely that they _need_ that income from purchases coming in as often as possible so that they can afford to pay the rent.
...but yeah, just like in Morrowind, I would love to have some armor storage mannequins.
At least we don't have a buttload of herbs to store.
Uzul
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Originally Posted by sabretalon
Maybe they should introduce, the luggage? Just like in the Terry Pratchett books?
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the thing about the luggage - it's only cool if you are the only one with it: imagine every crapway famefarmer or 55bot running around with a luggage -- LAME AND NOT COOL!
/petition for sabretalon & me beeing the only persons to get the luggage. >_<
*sign*
gaile gray lately mentioned something about some sort of special storage for special stuff -- but no precise announcement on what it will be yet.
time will tell...
GranDeWun
Just for grins:
EVE Online just set the first ever limit on storage, in that you can now only have 1000 stacks of items per container. Of course, the number of items in a stack is unlimited (not 250). And the number of containers is unlimited...And the number of locations where you can have containers is unlimited...
(Feel the envy...)
EVE Online just set the first ever limit on storage, in that you can now only have 1000 stacks of items per container. Of course, the number of items in a stack is unlimited (not 250). And the number of containers is unlimited...And the number of locations where you can have containers is unlimited...
(Feel the envy...)
noblepaladin
I think for most people, storing items isn't that big of a problem. If you use one extra character as storage, he can hold a lot of items. However, storing materials and armor is very difficult. There are too many different types of materials and some people want to have different armors for different builds (or just to have them all for style). I don't want to buy new runes every time I change to a different build, so I just buy an extra armor piece and put the rune in. If you intend to use your PvE character for PvP too, you pretty much have to have multiple armor sets unless you plan to always have the same build (i.e. in PvP sometimes you want to be a lightning ele, sometimes an earth, or you might want to be 55 for PvE). All the holiday items take up a lot of room too. I think these items should be made more efficient in terms of storage, they don't benefit bot farmers (bot farmers don't need/want multiple armors). Also, space for other items would be limited enough so that players would want to sell them. Maybe the holiday items can have a command similar to "/preorder", or there is a closet which contains a list of all your armors and you can choose from it. This would also make it alot more organized for people with multiple armor sets.
Blaster The Warrior
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Originally Posted by Rebel Dragon
it would be nice to keep thing into your bags and that you can pull them out with the things still in it. so if you need storage you just pay the little price of 500 gp and 1 rune of holding to ahve a bit more storage for all the armros and weapons etc..
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i agree with you good thinking.
Snowman
Hey I just had a fantastic thought!!
maybe if you could take the bags that you buy and drop them into the Xunlai Storage box?
I mean, these bags.. you can physically hold 2 of them right? so they in effect take a 'bag' slot about your character... so why not be able to pick those bags and drop them into a storage slot?
that would...wow.. that would increase effective storage by 10x !!!
woohoooo *dreams*
maybe if you could take the bags that you buy and drop them into the Xunlai Storage box?
I mean, these bags.. you can physically hold 2 of them right? so they in effect take a 'bag' slot about your character... so why not be able to pick those bags and drop them into a storage slot?
that would...wow.. that would increase effective storage by 10x !!!
woohoooo *dreams*
Mordakai
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Originally Posted by Snowman
Hey I just had a fantastic thought!!
maybe if you could take the bags that you buy and drop them into the Xunlai Storage box? I mean, these bags.. you can physically hold 2 of them right? so they in effect take a 'bag' slot about your character... so why not be able to pick those bags and drop them into a storage slot? that would...wow.. that would increase effective storage by 10x !!! woohoooo *dreams* |
COOL TROLL JOHN
Does anyone out there know whether we will get a second storage when we combine the new Factions game with the original Guild Wars? I ask this because i have already found that with four players my storage is too small. While i am on the subject of storage i would like to ask everyone what their thoughts are on allowing a guild hall storage for the guilds use.
Thanks in advance Cool Troll John
Thanks in advance Cool Troll John
Lady Erighan
GW-P = 4 Char Slots & 1 Storage
GW-F = 4 Char Slots & 1 Storage
GW-P/F (Merged) = 6 Char Slots & ??? Storage
GW-P/F (Purchase Serperate) = 8 Char Slots & 2 Storage
I'm sure there will be some kind of "funny" math to determine the storage amount for merged accounts. Unfortunately, I don't think anyone knows for sure.
GW-F = 4 Char Slots & 1 Storage
GW-P/F (Merged) = 6 Char Slots & ??? Storage
GW-P/F (Purchase Serperate) = 8 Char Slots & 2 Storage
I'm sure there will be some kind of "funny" math to determine the storage amount for merged accounts. Unfortunately, I don't think anyone knows for sure.
fenix
So you lose 25% of your slots when you merge, so you'll lose 25% of your two storages. Thats like what, 1 full one and a half of another?
Kakumei
They've said that storage improvements--for everyone, not just for Factions buyers--are coming. What 'improvements' mean is yet to be determined.
Arduin
No! Not the funny math again
Gaile! Need help!
Gaile! Need help!
jackie
I'm hoping walking trunk a la Discworld ^_^
jackie
Maybe they let us stack one armour set in one storage slot or something. That would help a LOT.
LifeInfusion
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Maybe they let us stack one armour set in one storage slot or something. That would help a LOT.
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Separate slots are better :P