/signed.
it's one thing to drop it in the middle of a match to cap the altar, it's a completely other thing to drop it at the end out of spite to the ones holding so they can't obtain their spoils for the match won.
A fix that everyone should agree too. (/Sign here)
Sekkira
Wyldchild777
Greetings,
/signed
It does suck that people are not getting the only tangible reward for winning the HoH. My thought - does the spirit die at the same time as the players? Would that take care of the issue? If not...
For specific timing, when the match ends, the winning team becomes invulnerable to ALL damage. One or two seconds later, everything on the map is dealt lethal damage (perhaps 9999).
Merry meet, merry met, merry meet again,
Wyldchild777
/signed
It does suck that people are not getting the only tangible reward for winning the HoH. My thought - does the spirit die at the same time as the players? Would that take care of the issue? If not...
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Merry meet, merry met, merry meet again,
Wyldchild777
Pillz_veritas
I Dont pvp at all... Simply Put EoE Is my Favorite PvE Spirit for many reasons, And if it gets nerfed because of this im going to be pissed to freaking hell....
If all spirits Die at the end of battle, Everyone is happy so /signed
If they resurect the winning party 3 seconds after the other party gets auto killed /signed
If they make it so that they Dont die in the end and get auto-tped to HA /signed
If they change the skill in anyway to make it Any worse at all Definatly NOT signed
If all spirits Die at the end of battle, Everyone is happy so /signed
If they resurect the winning party 3 seconds after the other party gets auto killed /signed
If they make it so that they Dont die in the end and get auto-tped to HA /signed
If they change the skill in anyway to make it Any worse at all Definatly NOT signed
Cowboy Nastyman
my simple suggestion for this problem would be to have your unclaimed items appear at the start of the next hall match much like they do after a mission
quickmonty
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Listen up folks. I want this thread to be kept clean as possible and have minimum derailment, which is impossible, especially on GWG, but I'm going to try my best.
The point here is not to flame idiots who have no clue what they're on about. This post's purpose is to inform Area.net that this bug must be fixed, and the Tombs population would like it if it would be fixed in a time period of 2 or 3 updates, not a few months after Factions. THERE. IS. NO. ARGUEMENT. WHETHER. THIS. IS. A. BUG. OR. NOT. Either you /sign, or unless you absolutely have to, FLAME THAT NOOB. Try not to repeat what other people have said though. |
Blaster The Warrior
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It's been, what, 4 months? Arena.net needs to fix it so when Edge of Extinction drops in Halls of Heroes, it doesn't kill everyone on the map AND LEAVE them dead till the next match begins, therefore not getting any of the drops.
Please don't leave this bug fix 5 months later. /sign here if you agree, and you think I'm really awesome, and if you think I suck for being a Tombs scrub. |
you suck because of the last part XD
the other part is probly ok
Mister Muhkuh
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just ignore him, hes one of those sore losers who cant win in halls so he does this and then fights against something that clearly needs to be fixed
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1.and u seem to be a snobbish "winner" in HoH
only because some1 doesnt win in HoH(maybe he doesnt even try) he is not a loser...
2.@threadstarter: u are not awesome
so:
/not signed
Kabale
This is a retarded thread but has a good point.
It's not about nerfing EoE, it's about fixing a broken HoH mechanic
It's not about nerfing EoE, it's about fixing a broken HoH mechanic
skretth
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Its called Mark of Protection, Countered. Stop whining you loosers, Or you could get outside of the spirits range. Or you could kill it. Or you could have some one with above 570 health. There are tons of counters, Think creativly.
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sure lets go kill it when there is 1 seond remaining because they had just put it down
sure, lets run CLEAR OUT OF THE ALTER ROOM across teh whole minimap
1 person above 570 will do nothing, the other 7 on your team die, thats another 7*36dmg u have to deal with.
so no.. not really.. there are not that many counters
i think the best way to "fix" this bug would be have everyone on winning party res 5 secnds AFTER the match has ended.. not AS teh match ends
Dr Strangelove
If someday, god willing, I ever make it to the Hall, and by some fluke, my team actually manages to win, I would cry like a little girl. The issue is NOT the balance of EoE or finding a counter or any of that. Players are dying after they have already won, and are not rezzed, leaving those drops to go to waste. In PVE, this would be like if as soon as you killed the darkness in tombs you were instantly teleported out.
Klmpee
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Its called Mark of Protection, Countered. Stop whining you loosers, Or you could get outside of the spirits range. Or you could kill it. Or you could have some one with above 570 health. There are tons of counters, Think creativly.
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or how bout... 20 secs left... no one notices a eoe.. why? because they aare all busy yelling and screaming at the monks to do their best to keep ghost alive.. okay gg.
it not a thread about nerfing eoe.
Count to Potato
/sign
xRustyx
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Kool Pajamas
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If someday, god willing, I ever make it to the Hall, and by some fluke, my team actually manages to win, I would cry like a little girl. The issue is NOT the balance of EoE or finding a counter or any of that. Players are dying after they have already won, and are not rezzed, leaving those drops to go to waste. In PVE, this would be like if as soon as you killed the darkness in tombs you were instantly teleported out.
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/signed
I havent won halls before but when I do I want to be able to claim my prize.
mint
lol rusty....still bitter about not getting that sigil?
/signed
/signed
Str0b0
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Str0b0, do you know how much dmg EoE does if 2 teams die exactly at the same time?
lets take IWAY with 9 BM for the example (9 BM is enough for IWAY to get +6 regen and max for the weapon) EoE does 36 dmg per death. Now lets say the team currently holding doesnt kill anyone and just holds, thats 16 people left alive at the end of the battle. 16 people dying at the same time * 36 dmg for EoE = 576 dmg. All that dmg is dealt in a fraction of a second. Unless the holders all have over that amount of health they are pretty sure to die. "Droping the spirits" doesnt always work if you have around 5 sec left to the battle trying to stay alive. Like in our case (I was with Rusty when it did it), We had to bodyblock the enemy heros for around 15 sec as they had killed ours. Having sent a person to kill out the spirits might have cost us the battle. And instead of saying that our attitude sucks because of a bug that has the potential of preventing what the winning team earned and then telling us to "find a way to counter it", you can just go f... and don't come back until you actually have a way to counter it in ALL situations. --[FBI]Shaun |
IWAY...there's your problem right there. /still not signed
mint
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IWAY...there's your problem right there. /still not signed
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Banin Galori
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IWAY...there's your problem right there. /still not signed
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Like so many people have said beforehand, this petition is not about nerfing Edge of Extinction. In fact, if it's balanced, I wouldn't change it, and neither would anyone here, I'm fairly certain.
What this petition IS about is fixing Hall of Heroes mechanics that prevents the winning team from claiming their reward. Sure, you might have won. But if you're dead, you're not going to get your sigil.
It doesn't matter that Edge of Extinction can be countered. You can't ask EVERYONE to pack all those counters for the sole purpose of being able to claim a reward for winning. And frankly, it is damn difficult to counter something that is dropped a second before the match ends, no?
Think about this. How many skills in the game kill all your opponents around you instantly, at the same time? Clearly Edge of Extinction is not designed with this in mind. That is why the end of Hall of Heroes matches needs to be fixed, so Edge of Extinction does not prevent people from claiming their rewards.
xRustyx
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Try not to flame people who are obvious idiots, such as Str0b0. It's been what, 10 replies, and he/she still doesn't get it. Hilarious, but nevertheless not the intention of this topic.
Unaccurate
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Its called Mark of Protection, Countered. Stop whining you loosers, Or you could get outside of the spirits range. Or you could kill it. Or you could have some one with above 570 health. There are tons of counters, Think creativly.
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2) Lets run off the altar, the other team wont bother capping to win.
3)Lets waste a elite on a monk for a skill JUST to beat a bugged mechanic!
Zui
Shouldn't need to be countered, the winning team has already won.
/signed
For the record: No one is talking about nerfing EoE. No PvPer here has even mentioned nerfing EoE to fix this. People only want to be able to claim their rewards for WINNING. I'm sure you'd all be equally angry if a gold req 9 crystalline sword drops and you can't get it because the monster you just beat is a sore looser.
I'd truely love to flame str0b0 and veritas, but it's not worth hijacking this important thread.
/signed
For the record: No one is talking about nerfing EoE. No PvPer here has even mentioned nerfing EoE to fix this. People only want to be able to claim their rewards for WINNING. I'm sure you'd all be equally angry if a gold req 9 crystalline sword drops and you can't get it because the monster you just beat is a sore looser.
I'd truely love to flame str0b0 and veritas, but it's not worth hijacking this important thread.
Olfin Bedwere
/signed
pintpointfive
No, that Str0b0 needs to be flamed. He's an idiot. He hasn't contributed one valuable post to this entire thread. In fact, he probably hasn't read one post in this thread. Please, stop responding. You will earn more respect from me by not adding any more to this thread. Wait, he probably isn't reading this... I need to get his attention somehow...
Str0b0... STOP
/signed.
Just because it is the way the game is right now, doesn't mean it is the way it was intended to/should be.Spirits need to die when timer hits 00:00... You need to get your +health then spirits die so you don't get fertile bombed.
Oh, btw, Mark of Protection won't really do much... Unless everyone brings it... Or you have an awesome aEcho, aMimicry, fast casting MoP spammer. Would be a pain to have to do a res chain after you're left with only your MoP monk standing. And who brings res on a monk >.>
Str0b0... STOP
/signed.
Just because it is the way the game is right now, doesn't mean it is the way it was intended to/should be.Spirits need to die when timer hits 00:00... You need to get your +health then spirits die so you don't get fertile bombed.
Oh, btw, Mark of Protection won't really do much... Unless everyone brings it... Or you have an awesome aEcho, aMimicry, fast casting MoP spammer. Would be a pain to have to do a res chain after you're left with only your MoP monk standing. And who brings res on a monk >.>
Jag91
/signed
keep it real ma homie rusty
keep it real ma homie rusty
hellprowler
/sign
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Peewee
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LOL oh well... I dont waste my time in such places if I can help it. Maybe on occassion, but whatever... Never mattered to me. In fact I find it funny as all hell that people are STILL upset about it and have not found a counter for it yet...
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To those people still stubborn to admit that they have little knowledge on the subject, are unable to read a post (the thread starting post as well) or understand it, and are wrong (saying no names, but i think we know who i am talking about) lets put it this way. As many have said, the argument is not over whether EoE is overpowered, or whether it should be nerfed. I have a farming technique revolving around EoE, i dont want to see it nerfed either. The thing is, is that it is a bug. If you disagree with that, then all is lost. I dont understand how you can defend your position against the indesputable fact that being killed by a uncounterable EoE bomb (Mark of protection, healing hands, and divine intervention are not counters. MoP and HH do not counter EoE dmg, and divine intervention will not save the life as the dmg will continue after the bomb has gone off.) after winning and being unable to claim the winning is just plain out of order.
Lets say that 2 skills are fine, lets say Feast of Corruption and Parasitic Bond. But, if FoC was used on Parasitic the resulting damage was 999 due to a bug. Now, what is being argued in this thread is whether that combination should be removed. It is not arguing that the skills should be nerfed as such, only that the bug which cuases such a combo to occur be removed. Could you stand up and say unsigned, find a counter you loosers? I think not.
Legacy Virus
Just wanted to stop by for one last post to put this to an end.
I talked to gaile today and I asked her if they were going to "fix the fact that EoE would still kill your party after the match in halls was over preventing the winner from claiming there prize"
she informed me that she thought it was fixed and after I and a few others said it was not she sympathized with us and promised to talk to some people about it ASAP.
so there is some good news for alot of us and GG to the nay sayers
I talked to gaile today and I asked her if they were going to "fix the fact that EoE would still kill your party after the match in halls was over preventing the winner from claiming there prize"
she informed me that she thought it was fixed and after I and a few others said it was not she sympathized with us and promised to talk to some people about it ASAP.
so there is some good news for alot of us and GG to the nay sayers
xRustyx
"Thought it was fixed?" Are you serious or just joking around? Well, nevertheless, it's obviously apparent like Anet cares more about fixing PVE than fixing PVP.
quickmonty
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"Thought it was fixed?" Are you serious or just joking around? Well, nevertheless, it's obviously apparent like Anet cares more about fixing PVE than fixing PVP.
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ummm .... you were joking, weren't you?
xRustyx
Enlighten me then.
fallot
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This post's purpose is to inform Area.net that this bug must be fixed, and the Tombs population would like it if it would be fixed in a time period of 2 or 3 updates, not a few months after Factions. THERE. IS. NO. ARGUEMENT. WHETHER. THIS. IS. A. BUG. OR. NOT.
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FLAME THAT NOOB.
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There are Always new and changign obsticles, So a new one is made for you to combat after you have have officialy won, Its just one more thing you need to deal with... Cookie Cutter builds simply DONT have counters to it... So does it make it wrong? Dont complain about a game mechanic that some one is using because in your opinion it shouldnt work that way. Only the best teams should be able to win and get there loot, And if you cant figure out a way to counter something that you only need 1 skill for to counter, then you dont deserve the loot that you cant have.
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Lithium,
Neva been to HoH but it sounds like a good idea
/signed
/signed
darkdragon99
i say nerf EoE hell take it out of the game just cause some little baby doesn't want a bug that invloves EoE fixed
D Fault
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i say nerf EoE hell take it out of the game just cause some little baby doesn't want a bug that invloves EoE fixed
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quickmonty
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Enlighten me then.
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Siliconwafer
Ignoring the sidetrack of whether anet values one over the other...
/signed.
/signed.
fenix
/signed
Make everyone on the holding/winning team come back alive the second you win. Just like Competition Arenas.
Make everyone on the holding/winning team come back alive the second you win. Just like Competition Arenas.
Poison Ivy
Rather then somehow fix this, let the drops be reclaimed afterwards.
quickmonty
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Rather then somehow fix this, let the drops be reclaimed afterwards.
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Easy to do .... solves the problem.
D Fault
Not entirely.
If noone on your team survives, noone can open the chest, so nothing is even dropped
If noone on your team survives, noone can open the chest, so nothing is even dropped