Again with this over glorification of mesmers, my god. People have their opinions and again a soon as one bad thing is said about mesmers, a THRONG of people flok like morons to argue and start another war.
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Originally Posted by rayne2550
D4nowar, you might as well give your "argument" a rest. It's based on a biased opinion, not facts. The facts easily show that Mesmers are invaluable in PvE, and nothing will prove otherwise.
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Opinion, purely opinion. I agree that we are useful but not invaluable. Wrong word choice, invaluable means we make or break a team everytime, which is not true. No single profession is invaluable, as that would be stupid and all you would see is that one profession.
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Originally Posted by rayne2550
Sure, it's possible to efficiently complete a quest or mission without a Mesmer, but having one in your party can only speed up the process. If there's an annoying Shadow Warrior chasing in on your Monk, put Ineptitude, Clumsiness and Empathy on it, and watch half of his health instantly disappear. You can't do that damage with an Elementalist, they don't ignore armor. If it's a Priest of Sorrow that you're having difficulty killing, slap it with Arcane Conundrum and use Power Leak, Power Spike, or CoF. The point is that a skilled Mesmer will save your butt in spots that would otherwise be difficult.
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An elementalist can more effectively shut down multiple warriors, a mesmer can destroy one. Which is more valuable? The correct answer, neither. Both are equal. A mesmer can blow up one warrior, sure. An ele can condition five and create a literal circle of protection. An ele CAN easily deal the same damage (Obsidian anyone?) but they suffer for it. Then again so does a mesmer when it blows up half its energy on one target.
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Originally Posted by rayne2550
It's pathetic and extremely redundant that every thread with the word "Mesmer" in it eventually turns into an argument about whether or not they are useful in PvE. The ones who argue and say they are not are close-minded, and unwilling to think outside the cookie-cutter builds such as Nuker, SS, MM, Healer, and Boon Prot. So those who don't enjoy playing the class need to keep their comments to themselves.
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You are partly guilty of turning this into an argument, this could have died on Page one but no. It just goes on and on as if someone came up to you with a gun and said "Mesmers suck, believe it or die!" No one did this, one person saying "That is your opinion, one that we don't have to agree with" would have been enough, there are countless threads with this argument recurring over and over, and here it is again.
Oddly were you not the one who wanted these stopped :P