Is there some way we without paypal (or a creditcard) can contribute to the GuildWars birthday donate a dollar thing?
Maybe a SMS Kambi account for this? I would like to donate something, but don't have a creditcard and I think there are people with me that feel the same.
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Gonzo
Maxiemonster
I don't have a credit card either, so I can't donate that way, but I wouldn't mind SMS'ing several times, so yeah, an SMS'ing system would work for me, and probably for alot of younger people without a credit card.
Vilaptca
I have paypal and no credit card. You don't need a credit card to have a paypal account.
Gonzo
From what I see on the PayPal site I need a confirmed U.S. bank account for this. However, I find the help function on paypal not that helpfull.
Inde
Well, the other fansites had considered other payment methods but really, this is the easiest and quickest way. Dealing with anything else just leaves room for more questions and errors and we wanted it central. That's okay if you can't donate, I know that I certainly appreciate the willingness and it's great to see the community so willing and open.
Venomios
There may already be a thread (I looked for a few pages, but didn't see one, so I'll assume no)... I don't mean to be rude, but can anyone explain WHY the fansites want us to give the game devs money (aside from the money they already get from us when we buy the products)?
Donating money to them as a thank you for a product is absurd.
I could understand something like "Hey peoples, as a thankyou to the devs for a great game, we want to collect $ for UNICEF in the name of Guild Wars" or something like that. Something that has a impact. But to just give devs money for doing their job, which they are getting paid for already, is rediculous. They are paid-per-hour or salaried. They aren't working for tips.
I'll probably get banned for this post, but hey...
Donating money to them as a thank you for a product is absurd.
I could understand something like "Hey peoples, as a thankyou to the devs for a great game, we want to collect $ for UNICEF in the name of Guild Wars" or something like that. Something that has a impact. But to just give devs money for doing their job, which they are getting paid for already, is rediculous. They are paid-per-hour or salaried. They aren't working for tips.
I'll probably get banned for this post, but hey...
brybry
dude....if you dont want to donate then dont...dont bitch about it
Tsunami Rain
Its a thank-you gift for being the best developers they can be. I mean Guild Wars is such as awesome game and it would be a no-name game if it wasn't for all of the hard work the devs put into guild wars. IMO they deserve it.
Arcanis the Omnipotent
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Originally Posted by Venomios
But to just give devs money for doing their job, which they are getting paid for already, is rediculous. They are paid-per-hour or salaried. They aren't working for tips.
I'll probably get banned for this post, but hey... Boy I hope so. Yes, lets not give a thankyou money donation to a group of people who provide constantly updating content for a simple 50 dollar fee of the original game. No monthly supscription asked like so many other games. God help you, you're being asked to donate 1 or 2 bucks just to show your thanks. Wow, how the RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO grateful are you to be allowed to keep playing something online you arent paying to play for basically forever.
I'll probably get banned for this post, but hey... Boy I hope so. Yes, lets not give a thankyou money donation to a group of people who provide constantly updating content for a simple 50 dollar fee of the original game. No monthly supscription asked like so many other games. God help you, you're being asked to donate 1 or 2 bucks just to show your thanks. Wow, how the RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO grateful are you to be allowed to keep playing something online you arent paying to play for basically forever.
Swampgirl Inez
From the sticky:
Full details on what we send will be presented to the fans and any money we receive over the amount will be donated to a charity of the dev's choice.
Full details on what we send will be presented to the fans and any money we receive over the amount will be donated to a charity of the dev's choice.
Lateralus
I dont really get it either but w/e... Its just 1 dollar and if you dont want to donate then dont
SAQ
You know they are probably giving presents to Anet team and not money. Maybe as fans, we will like to send flowers and cookies to Gaile! So the fansite are giving us a chance to do that. Clam down..
Below is the quote from that donation thread.
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Full details on what we send will be presented to the fans and any money we receive over the amount will be donated to a charity of the dev's choice.
Below is the quote from that donation thread.
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Josh
Yeah, er, 1 problem...
These donations everyone donates are going to be given to a charity of the dev's choice...
These donations everyone donates are going to be given to a charity of the dev's choice...
Tsunami Rain
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Originally Posted by Swampgirl Inez
From the sticky:
Full details on what we send will be presented to the fans and any money we receive over the amount will be donated to a charity of the dev's choice. Guess I didnt read too well eh?
Full details on what we send will be presented to the fans and any money we receive over the amount will be donated to a charity of the dev's choice. Guess I didnt read too well eh?
unienaule
Yeah, don't complain about stuff you aren't forced to do. As Swampgirl said, details will be posted on how the money is used, and I'd like to add that admins of different sites have access to the account.
Inde
Yes, there are many who don't like the game. You can say that about WoW, Everquest, SWG or any other MMOG where the population slowly loses interest as they become more involved in the game. If you want to donate, we would certainly appreciate it. If not, then please don't feel any obligation to contribute. Guild Wars does not charge a monthly fee and it's just a few dollars if you have them.
And I'm sure that any of us that do a job would like to receive a gift, would like to know that what we do is appreciated. No money will be exchanging hands, this is not a tip for the devs.
The problems that are mentioned, nerfing, bots, etc. are industry wide problems. You cannot pin these problems that affect all such games and declare that ArenaNet and the devs are turning a blind eye to them. If the solution was so simple then there wouldn't be these problems in games that are older than Guild Wars. Lineage 2, Final Fantasy and more.
(yes this post may be a bit fragmented, I'm addressing several questions that have come up to me all at once through PM, etc.)
And I'm sure that any of us that do a job would like to receive a gift, would like to know that what we do is appreciated. No money will be exchanging hands, this is not a tip for the devs.
The problems that are mentioned, nerfing, bots, etc. are industry wide problems. You cannot pin these problems that affect all such games and declare that ArenaNet and the devs are turning a blind eye to them. If the solution was so simple then there wouldn't be these problems in games that are older than Guild Wars. Lineage 2, Final Fantasy and more.
(yes this post may be a bit fragmented, I'm addressing several questions that have come up to me all at once through PM, etc.)
Dralspire
Why should I donate? I can only speak for myself. I donated because I feel that the developers have gone far beyond the call of duty. It is easy for us as "passenger drivers" to criticize every step of the way, but I personally feel that the developers have made a considerable effort to listen to all of our complaining in order to improve our gaming experience.
What will the developers receive? The developers will not receive cash. Instead, they will receive a birthday gift. Any money that is donated above the amount needed for the gift will be donated to a charity of the developers' choice.
So, what do I care what Guru wants? If you read carefully, you will note that this is a major joint effort by a large number of fansites around the world. This cooperation is without precedence. The money is jointly monitored by individuals in charge of some of these fansites.
Ultimately it comes down to a simple question. Are you a talker, or are you a doer? From my own experience, the doers are the ones that get the job done while the talkers try to bask in the sunshine. Personally, that's not my style.
What's your style?
What will the developers receive? The developers will not receive cash. Instead, they will receive a birthday gift. Any money that is donated above the amount needed for the gift will be donated to a charity of the developers' choice.
So, what do I care what Guru wants? If you read carefully, you will note that this is a major joint effort by a large number of fansites around the world. This cooperation is without precedence. The money is jointly monitored by individuals in charge of some of these fansites.
Ultimately it comes down to a simple question. Are you a talker, or are you a doer? From my own experience, the doers are the ones that get the job done while the talkers try to bask in the sunshine. Personally, that's not my style.
What's your style?
Rayzor
Oh my dear, please don't let me be a waitress at some peoples table. Why should they get a tip for doing their job... it's called thank you.. Why should people get a bday present? Their mom should be getting the gifts. Dral and Inde summed it up good
Venomios
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Originally Posted by Rayzor
Oh my dear, please don't let me be a waitress at some peoples table. Why should they get a tip for doing their job... it's called thank you.. Why should people get a bday present? Their mom should be getting the gifts. Dral and Inde summed it up good
ummm... waitresses work for tips. They get paid less because the restaurant owner expects them to make up the difference with tips. I understand that, and I am more than willing to tip a waiter/waitress (plus I usually tip at least20%, rather than the accepted 15%). I just see it silly to tip the lady at the grocery store for scanning my purchase, or to buy a gift to thank the guy who tailored my suit a year ago because I still wear it.
I still think that ALL the money collected should go to a charity, not just "leftovers" If you are going to collect money, at least let it be for a noble reason. I love the GW game, and would gladly donate to a collection that the proceeds go to Red Cross, or UNICEF, or any of a number of charities, but to buy the developers a pretty trophy, or other knick-knack, and give the left over change to a charity seems kinda bad.
So Inde, when you and the other fansites get together for a collection to aide disaster victims, or help urban schools, let me know, and I will happily donate.
ummm... waitresses work for tips. They get paid less because the restaurant owner expects them to make up the difference with tips. I understand that, and I am more than willing to tip a waiter/waitress (plus I usually tip at least20%, rather than the accepted 15%). I just see it silly to tip the lady at the grocery store for scanning my purchase, or to buy a gift to thank the guy who tailored my suit a year ago because I still wear it. I still think that ALL the money collected should go to a charity, not just "leftovers" If you are going to collect money, at least let it be for a noble reason. I love the GW game, and would gladly donate to a collection that the proceeds go to Red Cross, or UNICEF, or any of a number of charities, but to buy the developers a pretty trophy, or other knick-knack, and give the left over change to a charity seems kinda bad.
So Inde, when you and the other fansites get together for a collection to aide disaster victims, or help urban schools, let me know, and I will happily donate.
fiery
Gah if you don't want to send a buck over why bicker, making a post to flame up donations, I mean really, don't wanna donate don't make a thread about not donating to whatever cause it is.
Rathcail
I considered myself rich enough to donate two dollars for this. I have already donated to charity and know where to look when I'll be donating again.
So this time I wanted to give the devs some money. Nothing would be stopping you from donating to charity, even if it's not advertised on Guild Wars Guru site.
So this time I wanted to give the devs some money. Nothing would be stopping you from donating to charity, even if it's not advertised on Guild Wars Guru site.
Rayzor
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Originally Posted by Venomios
ummm... waitresses work for tips. They get paid less because the restaurant owner expects them to make up the difference with tips. I understand that, and I am more than willing to tip a waiter/waitress (plus I usually tip at least20%, rather than the accepted 15%).
So Inde, when you and the other fansites get together for a collection to aide disaster victims, or help urban schools, let me know, and I will happily donate.
That was the point of my waitress comment I know they don't get paid a lot, below minimum in the states actually. Just the cheap mentality of it.
Also everyone that wants to donate to a disaster victim, I say good for them, then we can argue which group is more needed. Heck $50 for charity vs. buying a game, imagine how many people wouldn't be hungry (Sorry that is just my political commentary).
But I do completely understand were people are coming from in regards to charity vs. devs. I do know several devs, some that actually work for Anet, others for other companies. I know they work their butts off, and I also know most of the everyday employee's don't see lavished returns for all the purchases the game. Some even scrap by because they love what they do. Donate, don't donate, it's an individual choice. Still no reason for people to post that they aren't donating. If you don't want to feel free to sit by quietly.
And Fiery is 100% correct
It's all the same to me
So Inde, when you and the other fansites get together for a collection to aide disaster victims, or help urban schools, let me know, and I will happily donate.
That was the point of my waitress comment I know they don't get paid a lot, below minimum in the states actually. Just the cheap mentality of it.Also everyone that wants to donate to a disaster victim, I say good for them, then we can argue which group is more needed. Heck $50 for charity vs. buying a game, imagine how many people wouldn't be hungry (Sorry that is just my political commentary).
But I do completely understand were people are coming from in regards to charity vs. devs. I do know several devs, some that actually work for Anet, others for other companies. I know they work their butts off, and I also know most of the everyday employee's don't see lavished returns for all the purchases the game. Some even scrap by because they love what they do. Donate, don't donate, it's an individual choice. Still no reason for people to post that they aren't donating. If you don't want to feel free to sit by quietly.
And Fiery is 100% correct
It's all the same to me
Jessyi
Uh, guys? What exactly is wrong with Venomios' suggestion? I think he's right...
It's nice (though maybe a little odd and unprecedented) that the fansites want to get a gift for the developers, but it is a little tacky that the change goes to the charities.
I bet if ANet or NCSoft were asked, they'd suggest that the full honorarium be donated to charity. While I'm sure they'd appreciate the gift, if this were a collaborative effort to raise money for a charity of THIER choice in honor of THIER fine software...well...wouldn't that be the greatest gift of all?
-Jessyi
It's nice (though maybe a little odd and unprecedented) that the fansites want to get a gift for the developers, but it is a little tacky that the change goes to the charities.
I bet if ANet or NCSoft were asked, they'd suggest that the full honorarium be donated to charity. While I'm sure they'd appreciate the gift, if this were a collaborative effort to raise money for a charity of THIER choice in honor of THIER fine software...well...wouldn't that be the greatest gift of all?
-Jessyi
Inde
I think people are missing the point of the donation to charity. The point of the charity was to assure that nothing would change hands. That no one could accuse the fansite owners or arenanet of pocketing money. The purpose of this donation is to give a birthday gift to arenanet and all the devs for the thousands of hours of entertainment they have provided us over this past year.
This type of 'thank you' gift is done. It is far from odd or unusual. Many times across many MMOG's where fansite owners, networks or individual fans give small tokens of thanks to the developers of games. It's been done for ArenaNet before from some of the fansites. We thought it would be nice to give the community a chance to participate, maybe to even jump in and give a dollar or two.
It's never been done on a group-wide community level like this with multiple fansites participating. It's not something anyone has to donate to, but we thought you all might want to participate. If you don't, I certainly understand any reasons. I don't see where else this could be going, so I'm going to close this thread and move it to Site Feedback as it is discussing things that are occuring on the site.
This type of 'thank you' gift is done. It is far from odd or unusual. Many times across many MMOG's where fansite owners, networks or individual fans give small tokens of thanks to the developers of games. It's been done for ArenaNet before from some of the fansites. We thought it would be nice to give the community a chance to participate, maybe to even jump in and give a dollar or two.
It's never been done on a group-wide community level like this with multiple fansites participating. It's not something anyone has to donate to, but we thought you all might want to participate. If you don't, I certainly understand any reasons. I don't see where else this could be going, so I'm going to close this thread and move it to Site Feedback as it is discussing things that are occuring on the site.