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CKaz

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2005

11 Apr 2006 at 17:28 - 1

[I wanted to make this a poll and then follow-up with suggestions in the Sanitarium there but I don't seem to have the option - guess its the first time I looked to do it here lol.]

So what's my beef? Outside the ele who had IMO horrible armor choices (pick one elemental type to get a break from per piece) although some might argue there's a choice that intrigues here and there, for the most part you're going to be left with Prophecies armor choices (often energy) as your best bet. I think its a shame so many armors and their designs go unused (outside the assassin armor I've seen, I don't like any of them sorry lol

) - the reality is for PvP and to a lesser extent PvE, certain armors make that much more sense, and you really need to take them.

Going even further I think we're going to see some particularly ugly combinations or once again, giving up outright on the new armor. Warriors will still want their ascalon/knights (or new equivalent) no matter what, and may want the stonefists. Necros the boots. Some classes it makes sense to mix it up a little. Add even more styles and the mismatch could only get more painful.

So what's the solution? Well I put a suggestion out there in the appropriate forum.
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...95#post1230395

But this thread is just more community chat.
You ok or even happy as is, or would you like to see a change?
ie removing the form from the function, so you could chose a form you desire?

Cheers
CKaz

Cherno

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

Stars of Destiny

E/

11 Apr 2006 at 17:37 - 2

I am thoroughly underwhelmed by the new armors, looks and stats.

As you said, most will probably want to keep any energy items, as health is more easily bumped through weapons and off hands. Armor levels are also easily accomplished through skills. Some of the conditions are very strange (armor + while doing a preparation? or while in control of 3 or more minions?)

Since there is currently no energy alternative in factions armor I will stick with what I have on my current characters. I do like the new ele headpieces though, that's just for looks.

Unless the enemy interaction is drastically different that prophieces, I don't see a point in most of the new armor.

What I did notice a lot of in the FPE was the huge amount of conditions. Armor that gave a nice bonus of sort while conditioned would be nice.

SirJackassIII

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Belgium

none

N/E

11 Apr 2006 at 17:45 - 3

Err, aren't all Factions armour looks dependant on side?
Kurzick armour looks like Sentinel armour, and you can get every armour type in that skin (or at least if it's the same as during the beta).

And since it's easy to pick sides, you can get whatever armour you want, except Prophecies armour skins with Faction stats (Glads look with any other stat for example).

Lady Erighan

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

Defenders of Gods

E/Me

11 Apr 2006 at 17:54 - 4

I for one think most the armors look awesome. And who cares what the stats are for PvE. Don't "looks" matter more anyway

PvP, well that could be a whole nother story.

noocoo

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

11 Apr 2006 at 18:14 - 5

So.....it means....everyone who has the same class may wear the same armor skin when they are in the same side?

omg...............GJ! Anet! ----...

Alleji

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

11 Apr 2006 at 18:17 - 6

I'm buying a set of monk and ele +10 while enchanted armor. (As long as there's a non-ugly version) That beats every ele armor in prophecies BY FAR.

Monk +10 enchanted IMO is better than monk tats just because tats are hideous. Of course, if I had enough cash for monk fissure (sorry, my mesmer is getting a set first :P) I'd go with tats. Otherwise, +10 enchanted it is!

Kern Wolf

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

NJ

W/E

11 Apr 2006 at 18:19 - 7

I'm just hoping that all the new armor I've seen posted isn't all the new armor there is; otherwise, I'm not changing what I've got. I havent seen anything yet that is such a significant increase over what I've got now (drok's glads), that I feel a need to change....I'm more interested in the weapons at the moment...

Str0b0

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Carolina

N/Me

11 Apr 2006 at 18:20 - 8

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lady Erighan

I for one think most the armors look awesome. And who cares what the stats are for PvE. Don't "looks" matter more anyway

PvP, well that could be a whole nother story.

Not for people with sense. I got over my "looks" phase in the first month when my great looking armor didn't help squat. Knights, arguably some of the best looking armor in the game but ultimately a waste of money. I'm not overly impressed by any of the new factions stuff. Two of the ranger sets are moderately useful but only if the mods are global because I can't see myself giving up druids for a piddly amount of armor. I prefer my elemental and energy bonus.

Raziel665

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

Defenders of the Blackblade [DotB]

N/Mo

11 Apr 2006 at 18:26 - 9

Quote:

Originally Posted by SirJackassIII

Err, aren't all Factions armour looks dependant on side?
Kurzick armour looks like Sentinel armour, and you can get every armour type in that skin (or at least if it's the same as during the beta).

Okay, now, read what you said.

Wouldnt that be insanely stupid? The armors looked the same because it was just a preview weekend, there was no need to test armor at all, so they didnt bother to put time into it.

They promised 6 new armors for all the classes, so far we've seen 3 of each of the core classes in PvP, so 3 more designs are coming. Prolly with the same stats as their PvP counterparts, like the way it is now.

Trin Storm

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2006

Balthazar's Fury

R/Me

11 Apr 2006 at 18:35 - 10

So far i can't say as there is anything that amazing looking - although I don't think I've seen all of them (or even half)

Hello Kitty

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

11 Apr 2006 at 18:51 - 11

I think the health suits are going to be awesome for general PvP and PvE... all of the new suits I think are pretty cool because as long as you meet a given condition you get +10 armor, which is usually strictly better than the health counterpart for keeping you afloat aside from when you are going against degen builds.

...and OMG have you seen Sentinel's!? I might actually have to make a Strength warrior to try that stuff out. It is just hot.

I think Anet has done a pretty good job on the armor sets this time around, and I was glad to see in the preview event that the "crappy" Chapter 1 armor is having its stats updated to be more on par with the other suits. This makes me hopeful that they will do this retroactively too.

Like I saw that the Elementalist suits that were 60 armor + 15 vs. Fire had become +10 vs. Elemental and an additional +10 vs. Fire. There were some other updates too but I don't remember them so well. Just nice to see that they won't be leaving my Elementalist in the dust with the new Chapter 2 stuff. <(^_^)>

Mavrik

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

Alaska

11 Apr 2006 at 18:54 - 12

What I want to know is will certain armor be available only in certain areas? For example say the Ele has 4 new armor appearances. Will all four be available if you side with Luxon or Kurzick? Or is it like 2 sets per clan meaning if you side with Luxon you can't get Kurzick? Or the other way around? This will make it hard to get different armors and mix if thats how it will be. And if that is the case then I'm not impressed then....

Chanbara

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2006

Indiana

Infection X

E/N

11 Apr 2006 at 19:35 - 13

well if it is vastly inferior to to the prophecies equivelant than I'm sure anet will fix things, they arn't stupid and they wouldn't overpower Tyrian PvP over Cantha.

Count to Potato

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2006

Imagination Land

I Swear She Was Eighteen [Gwen]

W/

11 Apr 2006 at 19:39 - 14

The best new addition to the armors is health, other than that most poeple will go for energy or the health now, there needs to be like energy and ____ to make armors more usable

Chicken of the Seas

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

California, USA

Vulpes Velox [Fox]

Me/

11 Apr 2006 at 19:46 - 15

Personally I think the armors (well....for the majority) look really good, and hey at least they're different. I'll probubly go with Kurzick armor though...just because I think it looks more dark dressyish. There are some nice Luxon armor though....but I'm trying not to look at those so I won't crave them. =/ Plus for me, switching from Kurzick to Luxon later on would probubly be a pain in the arse.

SirJackassIII

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Belgium

none

N/E

11 Apr 2006 at 20:02 - 16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raziel665

Okay, now, read what you said.

Wouldnt that be insanely stupid? The armors looked the same because it was just a preview weekend, there was no need to test armor at all, so they didnt bother to put time into it.

They promised 6 new armors for all the classes, so far we've seen 3 of each of the core classes in PvP, so 3 more designs are coming. Prolly with the same stats as their PvP counterparts, like the way it is now.

15k sets are the 3 other skins. 15k Kurzick, 15k Luxon and then either 15k neutral or FoW-equivalent.
If it's the same as during the preview (mind the if), then -taking Warrior as an example- the neutral side will get Legionaires, the Luxons get Berserker and the Kurzicks get Sentinel skin for alll their armours. If you played and visited a crafter, you'll have noticed all armours say "Luxon's xxxxx" or "Kurzick's xxxx".

Also, how much effort would it have been to set all armours "right" at the start? They have the skins, all they have to do is link Berserker skin to Berserker name, but they linked Luxon to Berserker.

noocoo

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

11 Apr 2006 at 20:25 - 17

Quote:

Originally Posted by SirJackassIII

15k sets are the 3 other skins. 15k Kurzick, 15k Luxon and then either 15k neutral or FoW-equivalent..

IMO,
other 3 sets will be noob set, collector's set and elite set(like FoW)

Hadoken13

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2006

The Smuggler's Alliance

Mo/

11 Apr 2006 at 20:33 - 18

/agree
3 new elite 15k sets are too many
i still (along with most other players) don't have fow let alone a new 15k set
it doesn't really make a lot os sense to go with that many 15k's

Nevin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2005

11 Apr 2006 at 20:34 - 19

It really confuses me when people say they haven't seen all the armors.. Theres tons of threads in community works, and even in here, POSTED BY ME. Showing new armors..

Sagius Truthbarron

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

Animal Factory [ZoO]

A/

11 Apr 2006 at 20:35 - 20

I didn't try that many of the new armors, but I did like their new skins and I think most of them look great. The (while in stance) are will be rather useful, as will the (vs. physical) armor for casters. The health armor is pretty nice aswell.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hadoken13

/agree
3 new elite 15k sets are too many
i still (along with most other players) don't have fow let alone a new 15k set
it doesn't really make a lot os sense to go with that many 15k's

What? How does it not make sense? You wear the 15k armor for the armor you wear. If you wear Savant's Armor you are going to like Savant's 15k armor. If they didn't include 15k for all the classes, you would hear alot more whine than what is already in this thread.

SilentAssassin

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Belgium

Remnants of Ascalon, KT alliance

R/N

11 Apr 2006 at 20:37 - 21

looking forward to the 15k versions

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

11 Apr 2006 at 20:38 - 22

The health modded armors are awesome.

Two superior runes ;D

Angel Develin

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Lions Arch

Minions of Kronos

N/Me

11 Apr 2006 at 20:40 - 23

I think that the new armor and current armors are good balanced and there is no need to change armor any time soon, maybe just for the looks if you like to show on wich side you are. I'm keeping my current armor, but I'm thinking of getting 15k armors from eah side, that would be cool but only possible if I get a bit more storage for each character, I allready have problems putting my 4 necro armor sets to my storage with all the weapons and material and dyes, omg I realy need more storage /sigh.

Mandy Memory

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2005

USA

Xen of Sigils [XoO]

W/

11 Apr 2006 at 21:43 - 24

Sentinal armor is going to make warrior farming a lot better. (That and it looks cool...lol)

LifeInfusion

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

in the midline

E/Mo

11 Apr 2006 at 22:09 - 25

Quote:

Originally Posted by lyra_song

The health modded armors are awesome.

Two superior runes ;D

What do you mean? It is only +35 HP for the WHOLE set.

eudas

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

Tx, USA

The Infinite Monkeys [TYPE]

W/

11 Apr 2006 at 22:48 - 26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Angel Develin

I think that the new armor and current armors are good balanced and there is no need to change armor any time soon, maybe just for the looks if you like to show on wich side you are. I'm keeping my current armor, but I'm thinking of getting 15k armors from eah side, that would be cool but only possible if I get a bit more storage for each character, I allready have problems putting my 4 necro armor sets to my storage with all the weapons and material and dyes, omg I realy need more storage /sigh.

It'd be nice if you could purchase more storage space with the Xunlai agents. +1 square per 5 platinum or something...

eudas

Hello Kitty

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

11 Apr 2006 at 23:41 - 27

Quote:

Originally Posted by LifeInfusion

What do you mean? It is only +35 HP for the WHOLE set.

It still makes dual superiors more "doable" but yeah it doesn't completely counterbalance the use of another Superior.

NinjaKai

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

UK

Duality Of The Dragon

12 Apr 2006 at 00:07 - 28

This confusion about armor is annoying. You have your base armors. And then you have the two 15k varieties for each base armor.

denshuu

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2005

Xen Of Onslaught [XoO]

R/W

12 Apr 2006 at 00:13 - 29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nevin

It really confuses me when people say they haven't seen all the armors.. Theres tons of threads in community works, and even in here, POSTED BY ME. Showing new armors..

That's less than half the armor in this game.

Silas Verdeii

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

Vancouver, Canada

Warrior Druids of Silvari

12 Apr 2006 at 00:20 - 30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Str0b0

Not for people with sense. I got over my "looks" phase in the first month when my great looking armor didn't help squat. Knights, arguably some of the best looking armor in the game but ultimately a waste of money. I'm not overly impressed by any of the new factions stuff. Two of the ranger sets are moderately useful but only if the mods are global because I can't see myself giving up druids for a piddly amount of armor. I prefer my elemental and energy bonus.

For a ranger who has a significant amount in expertise, having armor that only gives you extra energy as a bonus seems kind of unnecissary. i get it for looks, but i never run out of energy anyways thanks to expertise. that being said, keeping stances or preparations up almost all the time isn't that hard to do and then you're armor level is on par with some of the warriors, and that could be real useful in soloing PvE

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

12 Apr 2006 at 01:22 - 31

Quote:

Originally Posted by LifeInfusion

What do you mean? It is only +35 HP for the WHOLE set.

-75 Superior Rune of _____
-75 Superior Rune of _____
+50 Sup Vigor rune
+30 Hale staff head
+30 Fortitude Mod
+35 Armor mod

Total -5

Thallandor

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Singapore

Seers of Serpents [SoS]

R/

12 Apr 2006 at 05:00 - 32

looking forward to warrior, dissappointed about Assassin, ranger, mesmer

There is still Hope. 15k FTW

Rex the Unloving

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

California, U.S

N/

12 Apr 2006 at 06:57 - 33

id think it would look weird if people with kurzick-type armor were fighting alongside luxon-type armor people... come on stay true to your side!!!!!!!!!! and if you have no side then mix

Eden2k5

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

12 Apr 2006 at 13:44 - 34

A few of the new ranger armor's look quite nice, and Sentinel's looks fantastic. I like a few of the mesmer armors, but I still think FoW bests what i've seen so far.

Overall I think the factions armors generally are fairly good, but some sets could use improvment. (Elementalist)

Mordakai

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Kyhlo

W/

12 Apr 2006 at 13:58 - 35

The new armor simply rocks. I love the looks and the stats.

In particular I'm looking foward to the +HP armor, and the MM armor.

My biggest problem will be deciding whether to go Canthan, Luxon or Kurzick for my warrior armor... or how much I should farm to be able to afford all three!

Andy_M

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Worthing, UK

(Don't fear) The Beaver

12 Apr 2006 at 17:08 - 36

Yeah but what do we call that Ranger armour ? Doily armour ? Lace armour ? Looks bloody stupid armour ?

Kais Unduli

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Room V

12 Apr 2006 at 19:37 - 37

Could anyone tell which of the other profession armors will be available to which side? Like SirJackassIII explained for the warriors armor. Thanks in advance.

Mordakai

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Kyhlo

W/

12 Apr 2006 at 19:57 - 38

pictures courtesy of Sir Jackass III

I'll take a crack, but these are just guesses:

Archmage - Kurzick?

Battlemage - Canthan?

Tempest - Luxon

Mesmer:

Masquerade

Savant

Charlatan:

Monk

Acolyte - Luxon

Disciple - Kurzick

Shepherd - Canthan

Necromancer:

Blighter:

Minion Master

Revenant

Ranger:

Explorer - Canthan

Scout - Luxon

Sentry - Kurzick

Warrior

Berserker: Luxon

Legionaire: Canthan

Sentinel: Kurzick

Rebel Dragon

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Vile Of Faith [nova]

W/Mo

12 Apr 2006 at 20:04 - 39

im ready to spend up to 700k for new armor ^^ muhahahah sentinals is so ownage!! i awnt 15k right away

Nadine

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

OhNo quitted too active gvg

W/E

12 Apr 2006 at 20:56 - 40

+35hp isnt for wielding another sup rune (nor wielding any sup runes), it is to be kept in inventory and used against LAME-ranger-spikes