Giant upgrade => SSSLLLOOOWWW??!!

Yukito Kunisaki

Yukito Kunisaki

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2005

Chicago, IL

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No RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing idea why my upgraded comp is running so slow... If anyone has any troubleshooting tips, please tell me, here are my new system specs:

GeForce 6800 GS [wapao!]
AMD Athlon 3200 2.2 GHz [overclocked to 2.5ghz, and slowing down for some reason...]
Scythe Bat Heatsink [big and icey]
1 gig DDR 400 RAM [only the best will do]
Windows XP Home [gah*]
110GB HD non-sata [though mobo is capable of 3.0G/s SATA connection]

grabbing new drivers from my manufacturer's websites for both my motherboard and my g-card and sound card and any other freakin' cards I got but for some freakin' reason, it's loading up VERYYY SLOOWWWLLLY

Aera

Aera

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

Galactic President Superstar Mc [awsm]

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clock it back...overheating can mess up your speed a lot

Veneficus

Veneficus

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

UK

Sure you dont have cool and quiet enabled?

Blade Rez

Blade Rez

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

Fairfax, VA

Shadows Of Nightmares (KoN)

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Yeah C&Q can sometime throttle up and down your processor, and should always be disabled when OCing. Also, what is your RAM set at with that OC?

Veneficus

Veneficus

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Join Date: Jan 2006

UK

iirc cool and quiet also sets variable ram speeds, i dont have it enabled, as when i have programs in a window, it thinks they arnt running and slows the processor down

Yukito Kunisaki

Yukito Kunisaki

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2005

Chicago, IL

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Disable Cool and Quiet? [must uninstall]

ok, what else...

Oh yeah, the comp does NOT OVERHEAT yet I'm getting BSOD [winxp? wtf?]

RAM isn't even warm, HD does get quite hot but not recently due to my new fan-fetish...

According to system test specs as well as just touch, my comp gets warm, but not actually hot... [as in uncomfortable to touch...]

cpu never gets past 35 degrees c. so I'm very annoyed with this... any other ideas?

Yukito Kunisaki

Yukito Kunisaki

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2005

Chicago, IL

W/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by Blade Rez
Yeah C&Q can sometime throttle up and down your processor, and should always be disabled when OCing. Also, what is your RAM set at with that OC?
I don't quite understand the question, I've left them on default settings... [is this something I need to tweak in the BIOS?]

Alias_X

Alias_X

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

Sorry, but my system :wns:: yours.

AMD Athlon X2 4400+ Overclocked from 2.2ghz to 2.3ghz!! LOL, not big overclock but too bad.
GeForce 7800GT, soon it will be a 7900GT
2gigs of OCZ Ram timings: 2-3-2-5

But... yes, I am lagging a little also. Every once and a while it is a little odd and sort of choppy, and sometimes the sound lags. This started after the update. If you ask me, KILL THE UPDATE.

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Yukito Kunisaki
I don't quite understand the question, I've left them on default settings... [is this something I need to tweak in the BIOS?]
just for the fun of it have you checked the BSOD error messages?

have you reset the cpu to normal and tried it?

Omega X

Omega X

Ninja Unveiler

Join Date: Jun 2005

Louisiana, USA

Boston Guild[BG]

W/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Yukito Kunisaki
Disable Cool and Quiet? [must uninstall]
No you don't.

Right Click on Desktop
>Screensaver Tab>Power button(at the bottom of the pane)>

Switch from "Minimal Power Management" to "Always On".

Yukito Kunisaki

Yukito Kunisaki

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2005

Chicago, IL

W/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by Omega X
No you don't.

Right Click on Desktop
>Screensaver Tab>Power button(at the bottom of the pane)>

Switch from "Minimal Power Management" to "Always On".
It's been set to "Always on"

hmm...

I'm pretty sure C&Q can be either disabled,uninstalled, or tweaked in either WinXP or the bios, I'm at work now so I can't test it yet, but awesome suggestions thus far...

Btw, I don't care if your system pwns mine, but I do care if you know a way to fix my system...

That and I've got best budget comp in my zip code right about now and don't have THAT much $$$ to burn...

Serafita Kayin

Serafita Kayin

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Join Date: May 2005

Tuscaloosa, AL

Seraph's Pinion (wing)

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Is this an Athlon XP system or a 754? A 939 3200 is 2.0 Ghz, so that rules that out...

Leave him be on the overclock. I have a 3000+ 939 (1.8 GHz stock) at anywhere from 2.7-2.9 on average, on cool and quiet, on air. If you're looking for scapegoats, that ain't it.

What is your board? That will help me diagnose this further...

Blade Rez

Blade Rez

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

Fairfax, VA

Shadows Of Nightmares (KoN)

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Serafita Kayin
Is this an Athlon XP system or a 754? A 939 3200 is 2.0 Ghz, so that rules that out...

Leave him be on the overclock. I have a 3000+ 939 (1.8 GHz stock) at anywhere from 2.7-2.9 on average, on cool and quiet, on air. If you're looking for scapegoats, that ain't it.

What is your board? That will help me diagnose this further...
However, how can he have possibly oced anywhere if he left his ram at ddr400?..

Also, now you mentioned getting BSODS, then go dl memtest86 (google it), and scan, leave it on over night, see if your ram comes up with any errors.

Some RAM refuse to run on a divider for OC

Yukito Kunisaki

Yukito Kunisaki

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2005

Chicago, IL

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Just did those suggestions. Cool and Quiet WAS slowing down my comp horrendously...

Also, I've picked up quite a bit of speed from this thing...

2.2 ghz -> 2.64... Gonna gun for 2.75 [where it bottomed out and froze the system after 10mins, but I need to test its heat]

My heatsink is near God-like... At least, from the reviews I've read on it... [Scythe "Bat", see it on Newegg]

Anyways, thanks for the memtest idea, should try it too...

And also, what should I set my GeForce 6800 GS pcie clock to? And another thing, how do I tweak ram settings? Didn't notice it in my bios [or maybe I don't know how, read through the manual thoroughly, maybe I missed something...?]

Yukito Kunisaki

Yukito Kunisaki

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2005

Chicago, IL

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one last question too:

I'm running an NVidia nForce 4 chipset on this motherboard...

http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16813127222

I for the life of me can't find what I need to shutdown the damn NVidia Firewall...

It won't let me play my other games and it really limits my connection to other people...

What would I need to access the darn motherboard firewall? [My router is all I need really... ]

Yukito Kunisaki

Yukito Kunisaki

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2005

Chicago, IL

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Ok, I seem to have gotten NVFirewall under control

Now to worry about getting NAT problems fixed under Azeurus... Time to hop to another forum...

Blade Rez

Blade Rez

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

Fairfax, VA

Shadows Of Nightmares (KoN)

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Yukito Kunisaki
Just did those suggestions. Cool and Quiet WAS slowing down my comp horrendously...

Also, I've picked up quite a bit of speed from this thing...

2.2 ghz -> 2.64... Gonna gun for 2.75 [where it bottomed out and froze the system after 10mins, but I need to test its heat]

My heatsink is near God-like... At least, from the reviews I've read on it... [Scythe "Bat", see it on Newegg]

Anyways, thanks for the memtest idea, should try it too...

And also, what should I set my GeForce 6800 GS pcie clock to? And another thing, how do I tweak ram settings? Didn't notice it in my bios [or maybe I don't know how, read through the manual thoroughly, maybe I missed something...?]
Ok for your one last question, I never installed nVidia firewall on my DFI LP , so I wouldn't really know. For your 6800gs PCI-E Clock to. Leave it alone, it should be at 100 mhz in BIOS. For your RAM settings, I'm guessing your board automatically clocked it to stable rates when you set the mhz to 2.63ghz. As long as it is stable, and runs fine for your it doesn't matter, unless it is running at 2T, and you want to check for stability for a couple of hours, to squeeze that extra 500 points in 3dmark 05 . Don't bother for the manual