Do lower req weapons do more damage?

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JBak
JBak
Frost Gate Guardian
#1
I didn't think so, but today I talked to someone in game who swore that they did.

If you have:

1) axe 6-28 15% req 7
2) axe 6-28 15% req 13

and your axe attribute is at 16, are you doing more damage with #1 or same with both axes?
Murder In China
Murder In China
Banned
#2
Both would do the same damage. But #1 will have a higher Critical hit rate.
JBak
JBak
Frost Gate Guardian
#3
Is there more info on this crit rate.. how much more?
Katari
Katari
Wilds Pathfinder
#4
Quote:
Originally Posted by Murder In China
Both would do the same damage. But #1 will have a higher Critical hit rate.
No, that isn't how it works. At 16 axe mastery, assuming all other mods are the same, axes with different requirements will function exactly the same.
eSe
eSe
Krytan Explorer
#5
that hasnt been confirmed
Sekkira
Sekkira
Forge Runner
#6
Quote:
Originally Posted by Murder In China
Both would do the same damage. But #1 will have a higher Critical hit rate.
That is only a rumour that can't be tested. You'd have to ask the devs on that one.
konohamaru heaven
konohamaru heaven
Lion's Arch Merchant
#7
Actually they have the same critical and damage rate reguardless of the requirement. I say this because there are only two factors that determine the rate of Critical hits and they are weapon mastery and Level Difference.
JBak
JBak
Frost Gate Guardian
#8
What about at 14? Would it still be the same as with 16?
eSe
eSe
Krytan Explorer
#9
14 would have lower crit rate then 16
JBak
JBak
Frost Gate Guardian
#10
Yeah but would both axes still be the same at 14?
konohamaru heaven
konohamaru heaven
Lion's Arch Merchant
#11
Quote:
Originally Posted by JBak
Yeah but would both axes still be the same at 14?
Yes

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mega_jamie
Wilds Pathfinder
#12
the only time the axes wouldnt deal the same damage is 12 and Under, if you had 12 Axemastery the second one would deal very low damage.
NatalieD
NatalieD
Desert Nomad
#13
Requirement-meeting is binary. Either you meet the requirement or you don't. It doesn't matter how much you exceed it by or anything like that.

(Having a high weapon mastery attribute will increase your damage and crit rate with all weapons of that type, but that's totally separate from the requirement.)
JBak
JBak
Frost Gate Guardian
#14
That's what I thought.
Murder In China
Murder In China
Banned
#15
Here's a table I found on Guru.

Effect of Attributes on Weapon DamageAttribute
Level Percent of
Weapon Damage
0 35.6%
1 38.6%
2 42.0%
3 45.9%
4 50.0%
5 54.5%
6 59.5%
7 64.8%
8 70.7%
9 77.1%
10 84.1%
11 91.7%
12 100%
13 104%
14 107%
15 111%
16 115%

Having 12 points of attribute will give 100% of the stated damage on the weapon. The requirement is for decoration.

Here's an equation I found for Critical hits.


[Effective Damage] = [Max Weapon Damage] × 2^(( 5 × [Attribute Level] - 40 ) / 40)

The only factors that affect critical hits are damage on your weapon and attribute level.

Hope that will clear any confusion.
Batou of Nine
Batou of Nine
Desert Nomad
#16
in other words. ANY axe with the same mods, will ALWAYS do the same dmg provided that stats when used are the same, and the requirement is met in both instances. So, 6-28 dmg, req 7 and 6-28 dmg, req 13 WILL do the same dmg as long as player stats remain same, at least 13 axe mastery when both are used.

There are really only two reasons to seek lower req items. One: The lower the required req, the more flexible one can be when creating new builds being able to use that weapon while still freeing up more points for wherever they wish. Two: The lower the req, the higher you can sell it for, because people are still under the impression that they will do more dmg then the same item with a higher req. LoL, in other words its a great marketing gimmik that has gotten me mad cash (in-game) in my hay day of trading on the GW market...

enjoy.
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Xenophon Ualtar
Frost Gate Guardian
#17
Low reqs are great if you want to have a mixture of abilities. For my Hammer Warrior I dont really care what the req is since I always have it maxed out. However, for my Necro I like lower reqs so I can run a combination of Curses and other things, especially Mesmer skills.
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Siliconwafer
Lion's Arch Merchant
#18
Quote:
Originally Posted by Murder In China
The requirement is for decoration.
I don't quite get what you said here, so I'll just confirm that if you do not meet the stated reqs, you will do the damage dealt by a starter weapon (i.e. negligible). If you do meet the reqs, the table of percent weapon damage will apply.
M
M I D G E T S
Frost Gate Guardian
#19
Lower req perfect weapons are just rare..reason for the price tag on them.
Mandy Memory
Mandy Memory
Desert Nomad
#20
Quote:
Originally Posted by Murder In China
Both would do the same damage. But #1 will have a higher Critical hit rate.
Actually I believe it was tested and the crit rates turned out to be the same. (I remember reading that, along with data...but I dont remember where...some forum)