Ok! I was whining about my computer's slow speed in switching betweeen things
to a friend, and i asked him what his mem. usage for GW was. he replied with 60k. i was amazed/confused/sad. mine is at 180k-260k, 4 times more then his.
is this due to our computers different stats, and if so, how much does this mem usage actually slow my computer? and how can i improve it? is it ram, vid card, processor....
it is a laptop, 2ghz 3200 64bit, 128 dedicated video ram, 200m ati , 512 system ram
thanks for any help
CPU usage and guildwars--confused
Wrath Of Dragons
Blade Rez
Right Click set priority?
Omega X
Right Click set priority won't work. Windows resets the priority automatically based on what mode the program is in.
He can try a heapsize switch however. That will cut on memory usage, but GW will saturate just about any CPU on the market unless it has dual cores. Which in that case, one core will be saturated.
He can try a heapsize switch however. That will cut on memory usage, but GW will saturate just about any CPU on the market unless it has dual cores. Which in that case, one core will be saturated.
twangansta
Most likely due to what processes you are running at the time, or what else you are doing besides playing Guild Wars (esepcially when you are in Window Mode).
I have a gig of RAM and Guild Wars takes about 300k memory when I play, but when I'm downloading stuff, etc it takes about 200k.
And wow! 43 processes on a laptop? I guess you'll be fine since you have 512 and a nice CPU, but my desktop usually has less than 35 processes and my laptop has around 20.
I have a gig of RAM and Guild Wars takes about 300k memory when I play, but when I'm downloading stuff, etc it takes about 200k.
And wow! 43 processes on a laptop? I guess you'll be fine since you have 512 and a nice CPU, but my desktop usually has less than 35 processes and my laptop has around 20.
awesome sauce
You can eliminate unnecessary startup processes by going to start-run-'msconfig'-startup, and then unchecking the ones you dont need. This helps in deciding which ones to eliminate: www.processlibrary.com
Omega X
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Most likely due to what processes you are running at the time, or what else you are doing besides playing Guild Wars (esepcially when you are in Window Mode).
I have a gig of RAM and Guild Wars takes about 300k memory when I play, but when I'm downloading stuff, etc it takes about 200k. And wow! 43 processes on a laptop? I guess you'll be fine since you have 512 and a nice CPU, but my desktop usually has less than 35 processes and my laptop has around 20. |
Wrath Of Dragons
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Most likely due to what processes you are running at the time, or what else you are doing besides playing Guild Wars (esepcially when you are in Window Mode).
I have a gig of RAM and Guild Wars takes about 300k memory when I play, but when I'm downloading stuff, etc it takes about 200k. And wow! 43 processes on a laptop? I guess you'll be fine since you have 512 and a nice CPU, but my desktop usually has less than 35 processes and my laptop has around 20. |
i used Spybot to check/uncheck em
Kaguya
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Right Click set priority won't work. Windows resets the priority automatically based on what mode the program is in.
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Haven't had any problems with priority settings with other software
Omega X
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Applies only for GW, actually [or was GW what you ment by "program"]. GW seems to have some kind of built in priority control, that sets the priority to 'low' when you alt-tab off the game, or while in windowed mode, select another window.
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Tarun
43 can be a bit excessive on the running processes side. It depends on the users and what they are running on their computer however.
Wrath of Dragons, you say you have used Spybot S&D, but have you scanned with anything else?
If not, please visit my tech website Lunarsoft.net. Head over to the Download section. From there I highly recommend you download the Anti-Malware Pro package.
I also have provided a PC Maintenance guide where you can select the Anti-Malware package you have downloaded that has detailed instructions to follow for settings for each application and the best order for scanning and cleaning your computer.
Should you need any assistance, please feel free to PM me, or make a post on my website.
Kind regards,
Tarun
Wrath of Dragons, you say you have used Spybot S&D, but have you scanned with anything else?
If not, please visit my tech website Lunarsoft.net. Head over to the Download section. From there I highly recommend you download the Anti-Malware Pro package.
I also have provided a PC Maintenance guide where you can select the Anti-Malware package you have downloaded that has detailed instructions to follow for settings for each application and the best order for scanning and cleaning your computer.
Should you need any assistance, please feel free to PM me, or make a post on my website.
Kind regards,
Tarun
Narada
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From there I highly recommend you download the Anti-Malware Pro package.
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Serafita Kayin
excellent pack Tarun. I'll be crediting you with using it on customer's PCs.
Tarun
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Nice package... got some good proggies in there.
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I do however need to update those within the next few days, as a new Windows Defender is out.
j0j081
That's a few too many processes for me. I have my computer highly optimized for gaming so it's in the low twenties and that's including an AV running.
refused
Norton Anti-Virus has a thing about running 1,000 processes.
Tarun
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Norton Anti-Virus has a thing about running 1,000 processes.
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lightblade
Memory leaks: There is no perfect program. No matter how much your code is optimized, there are still possible leaks. So leaving your Guild Wars running over a long period of time can make the memory usage cummulate, especially if you're logged in the game screen. This is something that you cannot do about.
Just close your guild wars and restart it again, computer needs rests too.
Just close your guild wars and restart it again, computer needs rests too.
Wrath Of Dragons
i run avg free, spybot, and adaware. i uninstalled norton, it takes over a computer like AOL. an as for prosesses running, i went to that process library website and checked em out....they all are "necessary". and when i said i was using spybot, i meant i was using it to block startup processes as well as scan.
Omega X
You might need to shut down some un needed services in the Service Manager instead of just shutting down processes.
Wrath Of Dragons
spybot has a section that lets me choose which processes are allowed to startup or not
Tarun
Post a HijackThis log. Also, never use any third party programs to change what services start with your computer. The only safe one is Start -> Run -> Services.msc I would not use MsConfig for services as it can cause issues.
Omega X
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Post a HijackThis log. Also, never use any third party programs to change what services start with your computer. The only safe one is Start -> Run -> Services.msc I would not use MsConfig for services as it can cause issues.
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Process NOT service. Spybot has a tool that removes process entries at startup. I use Spybot for that also.
Just be careful not to remove windows critical start up items like the dlls and such. Usually recently added entries will be at the top with a yellow highlight. Also the process normally has a name, some of them dont. If you are not sure, look up the name of the exe on Google.
Tarun
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Process NOT service. Spybot has a tool that removes process entries at startup. I use Spybot for that also.
Just be careful not to remove windows critical start up items like the dlls and such. Usually recently added entries will be at the top with a yellow highlight. Also the process normally has a name, some of them dont. If you are not sure, look up the name of the exe on Google. |
Ever heard of svchost?
Replicant
Services - Use Start -> Run -> Services.msc (ONLY SAFE WAY)
Startup Processes - Start -> Run -> msconfig (Startup Tab)
DO NOT use MSconfig to disable Services..
Startup Processes - Start -> Run -> msconfig (Startup Tab)
DO NOT use MSconfig to disable Services..
EF2NYD
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Services tell what programs to run, those programs appear in the Process list.
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Dammit, I swear no one ever open their eyes. I said nothing about svchost...
If you USED SpybotS&D you would know what was what And not being **** annoying...
Wrath Of Dragons
Please!!!! I just came here for help, not to start a fire!
Mustache Mayhem
lol omega you should just stop.. what tauren and replicant said is true- you can do everything your doing in spybot without installing anything- run msconfig for your startup processes or you can go direct in the registry if you'd like (HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\Cur rentVersion\Run).. and services.msc let's you shut down uneeded services (svhosts)
EiS
actully i find a good program for anything that has to do with startup or reg editing is JV 16 power tools
Kabale
I usually end up with about 4-5 svchosts running, so going into services.msc will allow me to see which one's doing what and shut down accordingly?
Tarun
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Please!!!! I just came here for help, not to start a fire!
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Right click My Computer -> Properties -> Advanced tab -> Performance frame -> Settings button.
Now navigate to the Advanced tab -> Virtual Memory -> Change button.
Next select the Custom option and set it like so:
Initial Size (MB): 768
Maximum Size (MB): 768
Press the Set button and reboot. This will cause a change to the size of your pagefile and it will now be set to a permanent size.
The setting of 768MB for your pagefile was based upon the information you have provided that you have 512MB RAM. Going by the rule of thumb for pagefiles you would determine what to set it to by how much RAM you have.
Example, taken from your situation:
512MB RAM * (times) 1.5 = 768MB.
Tarun
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I usually end up with about 4-5 svchosts running, so going into services.msc will allow me to see which one's doing what and shut down accordingly?
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Mustache Mayhem
ah that's a good suggestion tarun.. setting your pagefile to a custom size- don't let windows manage it.. basic things.. tweak xp is pretty awesome if your a little more advanced- it allows you to easily tweak ntfs/memory/the way windows handles swaps and reinit your cache- that and ace utilities for a good registry cleaner is about all you need on a gamers rig.. I use powerstrip too for overclocking my ati card and as a game launcher
Tarun
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Originally Posted by Mustache Mayhem
ah that's a good suggestion tarun.. setting your pagefile to a custom size- don't let windows manage it.. basic things.. tweak xp is pretty awesome if your a little more advanced- it allows you to easily tweak ntfs/memory/the way windows handles swaps and reinit your cache- that and ace utilities for a good registry cleaner is about all you need on a gamers rig.. I use powerstrip too for overclocking my ati card and as a game launcher
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Wrath Of Dragons
alrighty, i think i may do that. but, why 768? where did the 1.5*ram come from?
and what exactly does this do? (pretend you are explaining to your grandma)
and what exactly does this do? (pretend you are explaining to your grandma)
Wrath Of Dragons
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Ok, i did that, set the pageDefrag to run on reboot. was i suppost to see somthing, or is that page-defrag all internal? because i never saw a thing....
also, after i set pagefile to 768-768, as my charachter ran in the game, my bytes/second occasionally dropped from 1-2k down to 100. it happened enough to be immediately noticable. it this caused by the pagefile change, or just laggy internet?
d3kst3r
Lets see you have 512 MB system RAM, and using an onboard 128 MB videocard. That means the videocard probably uses your system RAM and doesn't have its own like 90% of onboard videocards. That leaves you with 384 MB of RAM for what you want to do.
See the problem is that most cheapo graphics cards that come with laptops don't have their own memory and instead use your system memory to store textures instead. This not only gives you less RAM to use for your own applications but also makes the graphics themselves take longer to load and look much worse than normal as well as adding an additional +128 MB for all 3D graphics processes under the windows memory system.
If you do the math, take the amount of memory that Guildwars is supposed to use then add on 128 MB for the video memory that your onboard shared graphics card is eating up and there's your number.
I suggest you try this: go into your bios and find the setting for AGP aperture size and set it to about 64 MB or even try 32 MB and you will notice changes. By the way, press Windows Key + Pause while in windows and check how much RAM your system is reading just to be on the safe side.
EDIT: yep it looks like your 200M ATI graphics card is a system memory "thief." All that memory usage is indeed stolen by an integrated graphics card. --> http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=19607
See the problem is that most cheapo graphics cards that come with laptops don't have their own memory and instead use your system memory to store textures instead. This not only gives you less RAM to use for your own applications but also makes the graphics themselves take longer to load and look much worse than normal as well as adding an additional +128 MB for all 3D graphics processes under the windows memory system.
If you do the math, take the amount of memory that Guildwars is supposed to use then add on 128 MB for the video memory that your onboard shared graphics card is eating up and there's your number.
I suggest you try this: go into your bios and find the setting for AGP aperture size and set it to about 64 MB or even try 32 MB and you will notice changes. By the way, press Windows Key + Pause while in windows and check how much RAM your system is reading just to be on the safe side.
EDIT: yep it looks like your 200M ATI graphics card is a system memory "thief." All that memory usage is indeed stolen by an integrated graphics card. --> http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=19607