OH NOES! (or just why I 'lost' millions of gold / req8 15^50 cryst!) - Guild Wars Guru archive powered by Guild Wars Legacy

Cybah

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

Europe

Guardians Of Eternal Sands [GoeS]

W/

14 Apr 2006 at 20:21 - 1

OH NOES! :-(

Somebody wanted to sell a req8 15^50 crystalline sword (picture is German)

I wanted to give him 105e+105s (all I got).

He said, he don't want to spam ectos.

He sold to another guy for 750k cash.

OH NOES!!!! THAT CAN'T BE POSSIBLE! HOW STUPID!!!!!!!!!!!

I think I won't be able to sleep this night. LOL!

OH NOES! LOL! OMFG!

Ermac

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

Finland

Hoggies fan [club]

N/

14 Apr 2006 at 20:22 - 2

He would have just scammed the money out of you...

I honestly think he still has the sword. :P

Woutsie

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Belgium

14 Apr 2006 at 20:23 - 3

AHhaaaahahahahah he got pwnt for sure!

Murder In China

Banned

Join Date: Sep 2005

/B/Chan

Looking for one

W/

14 Apr 2006 at 20:26 - 4

Forget it, that person would of scammed you. I remembered there was this Korean player that had the same exact Crystalline sword in that screenshot. He used it to scam people out of their platinums.

Cybah

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

Europe

Guardians Of Eternal Sands [GoeS]

W/

14 Apr 2006 at 20:27 - 5

yeah i told him he wanted to scam. but he said he will trade with a gwonline.net mod.

and then he told me the name of the guy which got the sword. but this guy is/was offline.

maybe he is a scammer, maybe another guy is now rich oO

edit: i guess the other guy is his 2nd account hehe! I think you all are right! I can tell u the names. :P

LifeInfusion

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

in the midline

E/Mo

14 Apr 2006 at 20:29 - 6

Crystalline swords are overrated but w/e.

Ermac

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

Finland

Hoggies fan [club]

N/

15 Apr 2006 at 10:01 - 7

and you my friend are jealous. :P

jackie

/retired

Join Date: Dec 2005

On the Beach

15 Apr 2006 at 10:05 - 8

I smell scamming ^_^

Naxohs Seralna

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

Norway

House of the Silver Phoenix (HSP)

E/R

15 Apr 2006 at 10:46 - 9

Nice blade, but as the others have said: You'd probably get scammed.

Maxiemonster

There is no spoon.

Join Date: Jun 2005

Netherlands

Mo/

15 Apr 2006 at 10:49 - 10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ermac

He would have just scammed the money out of you...

I honestly think he still has the sword. :P

Exactly. He probably just doesn't want to sell it after all, and he tried to talk out of it in a lame way.

zidane888

Core Guru

Join Date: Feb 2005

Seattle WA

[Oops]

W/R

15 Apr 2006 at 11:55 - 11

He would have scammed you, happened to a guildy of mine recently. Probably with that same exact person, under the same exact circumstances, luckly it was 'only' 50k.

Cottage Pie

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

Birmingham, England

Taking Aegis

Mo/Me

15 Apr 2006 at 12:37 - 12

101% chance you would have been scammed 8)

and that the person still has the sword trying to scam others 8)

Divinus Stella

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Wales

Steel Phoenix

15 Apr 2006 at 13:35 - 13

The value will probably go down a lot soon after factions is released, new rare skins and there wont be a lost strongbox to spit em out.

fenix

Major-General Awesome

Join Date: Aug 2005

Aussie Trolling Crew HQ - Event Organiser and IRC Tiger

Ex Talionis [Law], Trinity of the Ascended [ToA] ????????????????&#

W/

15 Apr 2006 at 13:54 - 14

I believe this same crystalline has been used in HEAPS of scams, the person says they dont want anything but cash, and then after the first few trades are done, they leave with 100's of thousands of someones gold. Trust me, you didnt miss out on anything.

Ira Blinks

Banned

Join Date: Feb 2006

15 Apr 2006 at 13:57 - 15

what bothers me is why isnt anyone reporting this guy?

Maxiemonster

There is no spoon.

Join Date: Jun 2005

Netherlands

Mo/

15 Apr 2006 at 14:05 - 16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ira Blinks

what bothers me is why isnt anyone reporting this guy?

Because he might've scammed, but never did. ANet can't ban this guy for nothing.

Ira Blinks

Banned

Join Date: Feb 2006

15 Apr 2006 at 14:10 - 17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maxiemonster

Because he might've scammed, but never did. ANet can't ban this guy for nothing.

multiple posters above say the opposite.

Pi_Numurian

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Numurian Vanguard

Me/R

15 Apr 2006 at 14:12 - 18

why would you spend that much. Hehe its in German I think...

Jas D

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2006

Oklahoma, USA

None

15 Apr 2006 at 14:35 - 19

I wouldn't spend that much on one item

I'd find other ways to blow my money. Those swords are ugly anyway. Looks somewhat plastic.

Cyan The Archer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

Denmark

R/

15 Apr 2006 at 15:22 - 20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ira Blinks

multiple posters above say the opposite.

10 from my guild thought Gaile should be banned for having an advantage above other players... Ban Gaile pleas!!!!

MelechRic

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

RA

[ODIN]

N/Mo

15 Apr 2006 at 15:51 - 21

Scarcity of an item like the Crystalline Sword is what's responsible for these types of scams. C'mon ANet! Give us a Crystalline Sword Day where they're as common as Raven Stave drops. :P

Seriously, if it sounds too go to be true then it is!!! Anyone who tries to sell you something valuable with all kinds of conditions or in an unconventional manner is a SCAMMER! Just walk away and report them to ANet.

Str0b0

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Carolina

N/Me

15 Apr 2006 at 15:52 - 22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ira Blinks

what bothers me is why isnt anyone reporting this guy?

Another thing is that like most cons he probably relys on people being too embarassed to admit they have been had. Back in Diablo 2 when I used to pay there I had a friend that got scammed out of all his stuff and rather than admit it he swore he had glitched armor and weapons when he was in fact running around naked.

Manic Smile

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

Hawaii

----- 15^50[Rare] ---- Alliance: ----- [SMS] -----

16 Apr 2006 at 20:12 - 23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pi_Numurian

why would you spend that much. Hehe its in German I think...

it'll auto translate

the SS was taken by a German user

FeroxC

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

EOA

P/W

16 Apr 2006 at 20:33 - 24

Yea d2 days were good, the old body pop scam the victim lost everything he was wearing i used to do that keep anything valuable then out of spite if he had crap gear id sell it all to merchant, gold wasnt the currency so they could never buy it back muhaha.

I reduced a rich level 85 to a naked n00b.

Hunter Sharparrow

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

Jeepers Kreepers

R/Mo

16 Apr 2006 at 20:49 - 25

If I'm not mistaken then it would go something like Sundering Crystalline Sword of Swordsmanship: 15-22 (req8), sundering10/9, swordsmanship +1 while using a skill 18% chance with +15% while hp above 50%. I believe Crystalline swords are long swords with a different skin as well. Personally I think this paying a fortune for looks is a bit extreme. In some cases not even, I had one person tell me in game that the butterfly sword I was selling was over priced but wouldn't be if it was a wingblade. They have the same skin! If I wanted a long sword with mods and bonuses like that then no way would I spend 100k + for a sword that is Crystalline when I can spend 75k to get the exact same sword (stat wise) with just a different look.

When you get your weapon customized then you should be given a menu of skins your weapon can look like. You then simply chose the different skin or close the menu if you like the one you got. Don't even try to come back with "then everyone would have weapons that look the same" either. Not everyone has the same tastes and therefore not everyone will have the same skinned weapons. Not everyone uses the same kind of weapon either (as in not every warrior uses a sword) and you'll always have people who want their character to look as unique as possible and will therefore chose a skin noone else seems to be using. You will always have variety as seen now.

leprekan

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Posers and Wannabes [nubs]

W/E

16 Apr 2006 at 20:57 - 26

That would rather defeat the purpose of drops now wouldn't it. If you could customize your weapon and choose what it would look like why would anyone bother with PvE. PvE is a treasure hunt for many that play (seriously how many times can you do the same missions and call it fun).

There is one crystalline scammer in LA dis1 that shows up all the time. He does "cash only trades" it would be nice if Anet had someone that hung out in LA to catch people like this.

Phaern Majes

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2005

Anywhere but up

The Panserbjorne [ROAR]

R/Mo

16 Apr 2006 at 20:57 - 27

Well what are you supposed to do with the millions you have sitting around storage? Some people can afford it and will buy it. Personally I'm going for FoW armor on my Ranger because I think it looks tons better. It also gives me a goal. I have every skill for Ranger and Monk unlocked. I have every rune and weapons upgrade unlocked. Really don't care about the other skills although I am slowly unlocking them. I need something to save for. But I can see your point and I think it just depends on the player.

chris_bernal FTW

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2006

16 Apr 2006 at 21:05 - 28

The scammer (which has been discussed in numerous threads) is Dragoan Slayer (R/Mo) who probably has several different accounts and most likely not using his/her main. He/she also baits w/ a 14^50 R8 Crystalline.

Shadowfox1125

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2005

PST

W/

16 Apr 2006 at 21:11 - 29

Edit that, or a mod will.
Don't post names, it's against the rules here.

Hunter Sharparrow

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

Jeepers Kreepers

R/Mo

16 Apr 2006 at 21:11 - 30

Quote:

That would rather defeat the purpose of drops now wouldn't it. If you could customize your weapon and choose what it would look like why would anyone bother with PvE

Defeat the purpose of drop? Are you kidding? Um the weapon with stats like that would still have to drop before it got customized. You must be a PvP person because not everyone is like you playing PvE just to unlock stuff for PvP. Some play for the actual rp in rpg (or as close to it as possible in GW) playing through and enjoying the story. Plus you would still have to get the drops to unlock.

Edit: If this guy is a proven scammer, post the name (post all their account names) that way everyone can watch out for them and not get scammed.

leprekan

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Posers and Wannabes [nubs]

W/E

16 Apr 2006 at 21:32 - 31

Quote:

Originally Posted by chris_bernal FTW

The scammer (which has been discussed in numerous threads) is Dragoan Slayer (R/Mo) who probably has several different accounts and most likely not using his/her main. He/she also baits w/ a 14^50 R8 Crystalline.

I know the names but also know the rules about posting them

The fact this individual is still doing this after a few months makes me think Anet should camp LA and resolve it.

leprekan

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Posers and Wannabes [nubs]

W/E

16 Apr 2006 at 21:35 - 32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hunter Sharparrow

Defeat the purpose of drop? Are you kidding? Um the weapon with stats like that would still have to drop before it got customized. You must be a PvP person because not everyone is like you playing PvE just to unlock stuff for PvP. Some play for the actual rp in rpg (or as close to it as possible in GW) playing through and enjoying the story. Plus you would still have to get the drops to unlock.

Edit: If this guy is a proven scammer, post the name (post all their account names) that way everyone can watch out for them and not get scammed.

Food for thought ... there are maybe 10 15>50 crystallines and around a million 15>50 wingblades. The skin does matter and it doesnt matter if PvP or PvE on this one. I am both PvP and PvE ... I have been through the game 6 times sorry if I don't find the storyline riveting at this point.

Hunter Sharparrow

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

Jeepers Kreepers

R/Mo

16 Apr 2006 at 22:10 - 33

Quote:

Food for thought ... there are maybe 10 15>50 crystallines and around a million 15>50 wingblades. The skin does matter and it doesnt matter if PvP or PvE on this one. I am both PvP and PvE ... I have been through the game 6 times sorry if I don't find the storyline riveting at this point.

The skin does matter and it doesn't matter in PvP or PvE. What? Isn't that an oxymoron? You still haven't given a legitimate explaination as to how an option like that at the weapon crafter would increase/decrease the frequency of drops that have maxed stats. Gold weapons with max stats would be just as rare as they are now, nothing would change drop wise.

There is alot that goes on in this game that anet seems to be unaware of. How many people do they have as admins monitoring the different places and districts? How many of them are out to look for people beaking any of the rules or just certain ones?

leprekan

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Posers and Wannabes [nubs]

W/E

16 Apr 2006 at 22:27 - 34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hunter Sharparrow

The skin does matter and it doesn't matter in PvP or PvE. What? Isn't that an oxymoron? You still haven't given a legitimate explaination as to how an option like that at the weapon crafter would increase/decrease the frequency of drops that have maxed stats. Gold weapons with max stats would be just as rare as they are now, nothing would change drop wise.

There is alot that goes on in this game that anet seems to be unaware of. How many people do they have as admins monitoring the different places and districts? How many of them are out to look for people beaking any of the rules or just certain ones?

The operative word you missed was IF. Since you stated I must be a PvP person I pointed out it does not matter IF you play PvP or PvE on this one.

The Crystalline is rare and KEPT rare by the drop ratio. Anet wants this item to remain RARE. If any slug could take a junk 15>50 wingblade or spatha and have it customized to look like a crystalline ... what would the point be of having different skins on the drops.

Hunter Sharparrow

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

Jeepers Kreepers

R/Mo

17 Apr 2006 at 01:26 - 35

Quote:

what would the point be of having different skins on the drops.

So why not have all weapons and such drop as a default skin? Well the skin would still depend on the enemy who dropped it. Mursaat hammers would have to come from mursaat or chests where mursaat are one of the enemies (just an example).

The change of skin can be made with a price and may even require an item of some kind from the enemy. For eg. 5k + 10 mursaat tokens given to a weapons crafter (only in a town after an area where you deal with mursaat) can give your horn bow or hammer a mursaat skin. That way you can save yourself the money and/or time of getting the money and items if you either buy the weapon from someone (current situation) or get it as a drop (current situation). That way there is still a point in having the different skins on the drops.

Nevin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2005

17 Apr 2006 at 02:13 - 36

Can Anet really ban someone due to another player's lack of judgement?

SnoopJeDi

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

Saved By My Pinchers of Peril

R/N

17 Apr 2006 at 02:22 - 37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hunter Sharparrow

So why not have all weapons and such drop as a default skin? Well the skin would still depend on the enemy who dropped it. Mursaat hammers would have to come from mursaat or chests where mursaat are one of the enemies (just an example).

The change of skin can be made with a price and may even require an item of some kind from the enemy. For eg. 5k + 10 mursaat tokens given to a weapons crafter (only in a town after an area where you deal with mursaat) can give your horn bow or hammer a mursaat skin. That way you can save yourself the money and/or time of getting the money and items if you either buy the weapon from someone (current situation) or get it as a drop (current situation). That way there is still a point in having the different skins on the drops.

I think I've heard this somewhere before.

What about crystallines? They don't drop from any specific mob, and a good lot of them come from HoH. How do you justify that? Give the merchant a few celestial sigils?

This sounds like an accusation of "unfair!" Well, tough. The rare drops are only rare because they drop rarely. If ANet brought in this skin system you're proposing, the market would hemmorage. Imagine it, shadow bows are worth nothing. Mursaat bows are worth nothing. Heck, I'll just go get a collector's longbow and customize it!

If you're really so mad about not being able to have a crystalline, go get the sword from pre-sear with the same skin.

To sum it all up:

Quote:

The change of skin can be made with a price

That's the same system we have now, except it promotes WAY less interaction between players, and cuts down on the fun of investing time into the game. What's the point trying to think up a skillful way to win HoH and get a shot at a sword from a chest, when you could just customize a junk sword?

[edit]Ontopic, I think the fact that the sword is so nice should make it painfully obvious to anybody wanting to buy it that it's a good scam. Any serious seller would not have a problem with ecto, shards, or other commodities. Unfortunate, but it shows that letting you guard down can get you hurt in this economy.

durendal

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Apr 2006

17 Apr 2006 at 03:08 - 38

where do those swords even drop? cause u get a crystalline sword in pre sear, from a quest, but like where do they drop in post sear? UW and FoW?

TheSonofDarwin

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Black Hand Gang [BHG]

Mo/

17 Apr 2006 at 03:14 - 39

Sounds like he's still upto it (unless Cybah and clarity are the same person): http://forums.gwonline.net/showthread.php?t=394301