In defense of IWAY
jackie
No build doesn't need defense. This is a game & no one can say what build is suitable to play. Period.
Hell Raiser
imo a lot of people go to iway because...
1. they refuse to try other builds
2. they were rejected by a non-iway group because they were "newb" to HA
3. they choose to play iway because they enjoy the build
4. they know no other builds and no one takes the time to explain what skills they need and when to use them, attributes/runes, basics of HA (timer, relics, alters etc) and other things (this may seem like a lot to teach someone but wouldn't you rather have more people to play other builds with rather then more iwayers to fight against?)
I know there are more options then just these four but the majority of iwayers that I meet went with either option two or four and once they got into it ended up relating to all options (first they were rejected and nobody helped them with the builds, then they began to like iway and play the build 'cause they enjoy it and after a while they just refuse to try other builds) these are my opinions and what I have seen happen to many people I know many of you have seen other situations or have other opinions, I'm saying now that if you have a negative comment about my post that I couldn't care less.
PS: I don't Iway
1. they refuse to try other builds
2. they were rejected by a non-iway group because they were "newb" to HA
3. they choose to play iway because they enjoy the build
4. they know no other builds and no one takes the time to explain what skills they need and when to use them, attributes/runes, basics of HA (timer, relics, alters etc) and other things (this may seem like a lot to teach someone but wouldn't you rather have more people to play other builds with rather then more iwayers to fight against?)
I know there are more options then just these four but the majority of iwayers that I meet went with either option two or four and once they got into it ended up relating to all options (first they were rejected and nobody helped them with the builds, then they began to like iway and play the build 'cause they enjoy it and after a while they just refuse to try other builds) these are my opinions and what I have seen happen to many people I know many of you have seen other situations or have other opinions, I'm saying now that if you have a negative comment about my post that I couldn't care less.
PS: I don't Iway
baz777
In defence of IWAY and myself.
I started, much to my shame, to play IWAY 2 days ago for the first time.
My usual character is Mo/Me, and whilst usually having no trouble joining a team, the success I was achieving with unranked PUG’s was slow.
I have completed the game with my Mo/Me and hope that I have become a half decent player but in Heroes, because I can’t ‘emote under the bridge’, I am unable to join ranked teams. Hence I gave up on Heroes for a good while and only returned recently.
2 days ago I read a few useful threads on here, created a PVP W/R and went to Heroes. In just a few hours I gained more fame than I had achieved with my Mo/Me and gained R2.
I will continue with IWAY until I have gained Rank 3 and can ‘emote under the bridge’ with my monk.
I started, much to my shame, to play IWAY 2 days ago for the first time.
My usual character is Mo/Me, and whilst usually having no trouble joining a team, the success I was achieving with unranked PUG’s was slow.
I have completed the game with my Mo/Me and hope that I have become a half decent player but in Heroes, because I can’t ‘emote under the bridge’, I am unable to join ranked teams. Hence I gave up on Heroes for a good while and only returned recently.
2 days ago I read a few useful threads on here, created a PVP W/R and went to Heroes. In just a few hours I gained more fame than I had achieved with my Mo/Me and gained R2.
I will continue with IWAY until I have gained Rank 3 and can ‘emote under the bridge’ with my monk.
Ado
Regarding needing to have skill or not, it all depends which profession you play in a build.
There are enough professions in balanced which require the same ammount of skill as when you play taintednecro in iway. When I changed from iway to balanced, I had no problem whatsoever addapting to it. Coordination and targetting is a little different but thats about it. When i play in r6+ balanced teams, none of them notice that I've played iway. Why? Cause appart form the monk, every profession in balanced is quite easy to play. (some are slightly more difficult than the other). You need to get comfortable with your new profession but when you've played a couple of runs with it, it goes automaticly. At least that's my expierence with it.
It all depends how quick players are able to learn new things, it doesnt matter in which build they've played. Some ppl learn quick, others learn slow. Same as in real life.
But.......iway is overused and I do understand the frustration it gives to many players. But just imagine the following: if everyone would play for instance balanced, wouldnt that be frustrating? Versatility is a blessing
There are enough professions in balanced which require the same ammount of skill as when you play taintednecro in iway. When I changed from iway to balanced, I had no problem whatsoever addapting to it. Coordination and targetting is a little different but thats about it. When i play in r6+ balanced teams, none of them notice that I've played iway. Why? Cause appart form the monk, every profession in balanced is quite easy to play. (some are slightly more difficult than the other). You need to get comfortable with your new profession but when you've played a couple of runs with it, it goes automaticly. At least that's my expierence with it.
It all depends how quick players are able to learn new things, it doesnt matter in which build they've played. Some ppl learn quick, others learn slow. Same as in real life.
But.......iway is overused and I do understand the frustration it gives to many players. But just imagine the following: if everyone would play for instance balanced, wouldnt that be frustrating? Versatility is a blessing
Jiao Yang
I have to say, I dont really see the problem with it. It DOES get rid of the crap teams so there is more challenge and it is very easy to beat with most of the builds i play with my guild. 
makosi
IWAY is a clear exploit to the game. Orders, I Will Avenge You and Dust Trap were nerfed just like air-spike skills were backin the day and IWAY has ruined the face of GW PvP. I love watching guilds like Sir Coversman fry IWAY - they've got it right. 
Yichi
tombs/HA/whatever u feel like calling it now a days is a complete joke anyway. what do you see. Esurge, Migrane, BLoodspike, IWAY, IWAY, another bloodspike, either and edge bomb or rspike occasionally, another iway, boom ur in halls facing what? migrane and esurge or bloodspike and iway. NUFF SAID!!
for anyone sayign that there will be diversity in Halls/HA/tombs/....... WRONG!!!!
people will always run whatever someone else runs because they are winning with it. The Zaishen started holding halls with bloodspike and now you see it as much as IWAY.
The whole point with this post is this. The reason people get so iritated with iway, bloodspike, E-surge, Migrane builds, is because if you play PVP for any amount of time other than 5 minutes, youll have already fought the same team build twice. I counted tonight when we went into HA.... one run... 5 iways in a row. followd by 3 bloodspikes in a row, then in halls, esurge balanced, vs our build, vs migrane balanced.... ok lets go again everyone interrupted everyone else... fought to a draw.... next HA run... IWAY, BLOODSPIKE, EoE Bomb (havent seen one of those recently... was quite fun to leech sig MoP and watch them all die), IWAY, Migrane, Migrane, iway, iway halls = bloodspike vs bloodspike vs us vs iway, vs esurge....
for anyone sayign that there will be diversity in Halls/HA/tombs/....... WRONG!!!!
people will always run whatever someone else runs because they are winning with it. The Zaishen started holding halls with bloodspike and now you see it as much as IWAY.
The whole point with this post is this. The reason people get so iritated with iway, bloodspike, E-surge, Migrane builds, is because if you play PVP for any amount of time other than 5 minutes, youll have already fought the same team build twice. I counted tonight when we went into HA.... one run... 5 iways in a row. followd by 3 bloodspikes in a row, then in halls, esurge balanced, vs our build, vs migrane balanced.... ok lets go again everyone interrupted everyone else... fought to a draw.... next HA run... IWAY, BLOODSPIKE, EoE Bomb (havent seen one of those recently... was quite fun to leech sig MoP and watch them all die
), IWAY, Migrane, Migrane, iway, iway halls = bloodspike vs bloodspike vs us vs iway, vs esurge....
Seissor
If I IWAY and I win. Sometimes the other team says IWAY is a stupid build, get a real one. But if IWAY loses than they say IWAY noobs, you're losers.
So. IWAY is noobie poo when it suits them but ZOMGBBQWTFLOL too powerful when they lose.
IWAY is a legit build, deal with it. The appeal of IWAY is clear. It requires alot of wars, and the most common character in GW is the warrior. It's very modular and doesn't require every person to have EXACTLY 8 skills or else it fails.
When I play balanced, it can take 1-2 hours to make a team. Spike can take 1 hour, IWAY it takes 20 mins or less to create a team. There's your appeal. The simplicity of forming a team and getting on with it.
I have NFI why people cry on about IWAY, FFS get another scapegoat for losing. It's neither a weak nor powerful build. It's effectiveness is influenced by the skill of the players.
Since IWAY is so popular you'll get the beginner or less experienced IWAY....ITS EASY FAME!!!!
Sometimes you get more experienced IWAY and they beat you. Yes...you LOST, deal with it, the series of events that transpired in the game whether they be luck/skill or a combination of the two led to your defeat! Stop being a bitch and say gg instead of IWAY noobs get a real build.
So. IWAY is noobie poo when it suits them but ZOMGBBQWTFLOL too powerful when they lose.
IWAY is a legit build, deal with it. The appeal of IWAY is clear. It requires alot of wars, and the most common character in GW is the warrior. It's very modular and doesn't require every person to have EXACTLY 8 skills or else it fails.
When I play balanced, it can take 1-2 hours to make a team. Spike can take 1 hour, IWAY it takes 20 mins or less to create a team. There's your appeal. The simplicity of forming a team and getting on with it.
I have NFI why people cry on about IWAY, FFS get another scapegoat for losing. It's neither a weak nor powerful build. It's effectiveness is influenced by the skill of the players.
Since IWAY is so popular you'll get the beginner or less experienced IWAY....ITS EASY FAME!!!!
Sometimes you get more experienced IWAY and they beat you. Yes...you LOST, deal with it, the series of events that transpired in the game whether they be luck/skill or a combination of the two led to your defeat! Stop being a bitch and say gg instead of IWAY noobs get a real build.
XvArchonvX
If your answer to IWAY is simple, you are probably not taking something into account. What makes IWAY so strong isn't the skills or professions used, it's the way that it is used. That's why some IWAY fail miserably and others conquer HoH.
yesitsrob
well I think the fact you can play IWAY like complete shit and you can probably give someone a difficult game even if they are much better than you.
the so called _better_ iways are actually just more annoying, if you play well against them, it's probably just going to take you longer since IWAY teams nowadays have developed a strategy where their warriors kite mesmers.
In a recent HA run we came across a high ranked IWAY team that we beat twice, we were playing a horribly slow build that wasn't too easy to kill. They kindly pointed this out and mentioned that they got 300 fame a day....
HA is going to be about fame farming to the majority of people, not about unique fun builds. HA encourages these kind of annoying gimmick builds, bloodspike, iway etc because they are proven methods of getting fame.
your average pick up group isn't going to be good enough to do that well, there's normally always 1 or 2 people who are a weak link in the team. That's why running simple builds which tend to revolve around a caller or just aimlessly smacking away at monks is better to do in a pick up
the so called _better_ iways are actually just more annoying, if you play well against them, it's probably just going to take you longer since IWAY teams nowadays have developed a strategy where their warriors kite mesmers.
In a recent HA run we came across a high ranked IWAY team that we beat twice, we were playing a horribly slow build that wasn't too easy to kill. They kindly pointed this out and mentioned that they got 300 fame a day....
HA is going to be about fame farming to the majority of people, not about unique fun builds. HA encourages these kind of annoying gimmick builds, bloodspike, iway etc because they are proven methods of getting fame.
your average pick up group isn't going to be good enough to do that well, there's normally always 1 or 2 people who are a weak link in the team. That's why running simple builds which tend to revolve around a caller or just aimlessly smacking away at monks is better to do in a pick up
Viruzzz
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Originally Posted by Juicey Shake
I agree that it sort of filters out worse teams, but there are a few points I have to disagree with.
IWAY, as it stands, is usually 4 warriors, 2 rangers, 2 necros, right? What if you change it? Drop the useless traps of one ranger, drop one pet, sub in another necro.. is it still a nub, no skill build? Wards... hexes, blinds.. all can be exploited by a 4 warrior offense easily. Interrupt, shock, or have a necro gale the wards and hexes. Have coordinated attack formations.. martyr for the nasty conditions. Modding it even slightly increases it's power tremendously, my friends and I have flawlessed top 20 guild teams with it [in the past week, yes!] We've taken halls with it, and held a few times, too... does that mean all other teams we rolled are unworthy to enter? Even if we had run the stock build, the result would probably be the same.. Or, is it possible that with party members who listen and a designated leader of some tactical ingenuity, even a 'n00b cookie cutter, no skill' build can be successful, no matter how crapy it looked on paper? |
Mai
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Originally Posted by yesitsrob
well I think the fact you can play IWAY like complete shit and you can probably give someone a difficult game even if they are much better than you.
the so called _better_ iways are actually just more annoying, if you play well against them, it's probably just going to take you longer since IWAY teams nowadays have developed a strategy where their warriors kite mesmers. In a recent HA run we came across a high ranked IWAY team that we beat twice, we were playing a horribly slow build that wasn't too easy to kill. They kindly pointed this out and mentioned that they got 300 fame a day.... HA is going to be about fame farming to the majority of people, not about unique fun builds. HA encourages these kind of annoying gimmick builds, bloodspike, iway etc because they are proven methods of getting fame. your average pick up group isn't going to be good enough to do that well, there's normally always 1 or 2 people who are a weak link in the team. That's why running simple builds which tend to revolve around a caller or just aimlessly smacking away at monks is better to do in a pick up |
Finally someone else sees HA like I do :L
qwe4rty
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Originally Posted by boxcarracers052
BTW, the other day we ran original IWAY with 8 wars, and we gained about 15 fame from the run. So, it isn't really weakened from the original build.
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Originally Posted by Divinus Stella
The reason I don’t like the build is it allows even the most retarded people to compete in an area that should reward intelligence and tact.
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Kurow
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Originally Posted by Lady Lozza
You can't just blame a build, and inanimate, non-thinking entity for all the woes the American server is experiencing.
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And IWAY in no way serves as a bar to jump if "everyone knows how to beat it", because if this was true, then no one would use IWAY. Personally I dont care if its not wrong, I still dont like it.
tomcruisejr
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Originally Posted by MrBiggums
its funny how all the defense for iway is coming from people that play iway in iway guilds.
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another reason that the build doesnt appeal to most of the players as "one among the builds" is that it's far from the generic: uses spirits (do you see natures renewal (anti enchanters and hexers) or predatory season (antimonks) in a balanced build?), doesnt have the ranged spike, 4 warriors with pets, necros bringing minimal healing. it doesnt look balanced (no solid defense but superb offense, no monks, no mesmers, no warders, no spikers, no shock warriors, no soul wedding like moves or last of the master slashes). it is crude and it doesnt look "cool".
in a build with a solid defense and solid offense, there will be rooms for error. but in iway, one minor mistake can make you lose because the inherent imbalance in the build. and this imbalance makes it challenging and fun to play.
offense is the best defense, indeed.
Aejorii
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Originally Posted by MistressYichi
(havent seen one of those recently... was quite fun to leech sig MoP and watch them all die
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Frost_
iway is the reason america never has favor anymore
occasionaly a good team will lose to iway because of edge but that rarly happens
(they dont relize that build got the shit nerfed out of it)
they cant tainted+orders or duel orders anymore
and the attack speed got nerfed from 150% faster to 133% faster to 33% faster
its pointless to run iway now because almost every group has some way to beat iway without really trying
occasionaly a good team will lose to iway because of edge but that rarly happens
(they dont relize that build got the shit nerfed out of it)
they cant tainted+orders or duel orders anymore
and the attack speed got nerfed from 150% faster to 133% faster to 33% faster
its pointless to run iway now because almost every group has some way to beat iway without really trying
leprekan
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Originally Posted by Frost_
iway is the reason america never has favor anymore
occasionaly a good team will lose to iway because of edge but that rarly happens (they dont relize that build got the shit nerfed out of it) they cant tainted+orders or duel orders anymore and the attack speed got nerfed from 150% faster to 133% faster to 33% faster its pointless to run iway now because almost every group has some way to beat iway without really trying |
It is really less about iway and more about fotms. Air spike, spirit spam, smite ETC if you are honest ... iway was actually skilled compared to spirit spam
Now people are calling for oath shot nerfs. Why???? Because blood spike is doing well in HA? Anyone see a pattern here? Bottom line people do NOT like to lose ... as long as there is PvP there will be a thread like this one (insert fotm).
sisCo
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Originally Posted by baz777
In defence of IWAY and myself.
I started, much to my shame, to play IWAY 2 days ago for the first time. My usual character is Mo/Me, and whilst usually having no trouble joining a team, the success I was achieving with unranked PUG’s was slow. I have completed the game with my Mo/Me and hope that I have become a half decent player but in Heroes, because I can’t ‘emote under the bridge’, I am unable to join ranked teams. Hence I gave up on Heroes for a good while and only returned recently. 2 days ago I read a few useful threads on here, created a PVP W/R and went to Heroes. In just a few hours I gained more fame than I had achieved with my Mo/Me and gained R2. I will continue with IWAY until I have gained Rank 3 and can ‘emote under the bridge’ with my monk. |
Teams that ask you to emote just low-esteemed idiots who, just like you, Iway'd their fame.
Iway ruined the rank system more and while yes most of got rank 6 and 9 by other FotMs. They sure had more skill to play than Iway - Only exception is Air Spike which was basically Orb 321 and Chain 321.
Dahl
I hate IWAY, period, but it should not be nerfed further. The attack speed was reduced, orders was cut down, and the weakness of the build is plain as day.
The way I see it, if you cannot defeat iway, you don't even have the right to hold halls anyways. It is a makeshift build that is easily countered and easily beaten if you know how to play. It's true that newbs shouldn't be able to win so much, but once enough builds come out to counter iway and it becomes more common to beat iway, the newbs will feel like a carpet was just ripped from under their feet.
I'm kinda sad now that iway isnt so common anymore... I used to just tear right through iway teams because I could use a build entirely dedicated to anti-iway and i could almost rely on always encountering them.
Blood spike is a big issue at the moment, but that will be over with when factions comes out. Spiking as you know it, with ANY profession, will cease to exist, due to a certain protection spell that I will not mention here because I will spoil my advantage.
The way I see it, if you cannot defeat iway, you don't even have the right to hold halls anyways. It is a makeshift build that is easily countered and easily beaten if you know how to play. It's true that newbs shouldn't be able to win so much, but once enough builds come out to counter iway and it becomes more common to beat iway, the newbs will feel like a carpet was just ripped from under their feet.
I'm kinda sad now that iway isnt so common anymore... I used to just tear right through iway teams because I could use a build entirely dedicated to anti-iway and i could almost rely on always encountering them.
Blood spike is a big issue at the moment, but that will be over with when factions comes out. Spiking as you know it, with ANY profession, will cease to exist, due to a certain protection spell that I will not mention here because I will spoil my advantage.
Ado
First of all, let us not forget that ppl payed for this game, and therefor have the right to play it how they like. You don't like iway? Fine, but dont start flaming ppl for having fun playing a build which you dont like.
Example:
I like listening rapmusic. What? you like rockmusic? OMG, you're such an idiot!
Does that make any sence to you? I guess not.
Giving arguments why you think iway, or every other build for that matter, aint a good build, that's something we can all learn from. It might change the way how we want to play this game.
Regarding iway messing up rank. Appart from playing monk, virtually every profession is so damn easy to play. Just practise it for a day or so, and voila! You've learned how to play it.
Regarding coordination. Just listen to what the teamleader says. WTF is difficult about that? Stay in the wards, I'm using migraine on number 5, I have SS on me, bla bla bla. All of it is complete logical if you ask me.
I agree that playing iway is easier than balanced, but dont pretend as if balanced is so extremely difficult to play. It simply isn't.
Having that said, just enjoy this game and don't let others spoil it for you if they play it in a way you don't like.
Example:
I like listening rapmusic. What? you like rockmusic? OMG, you're such an idiot!
Does that make any sence to you? I guess not.
Giving arguments why you think iway, or every other build for that matter, aint a good build, that's something we can all learn from. It might change the way how we want to play this game.
Regarding iway messing up rank. Appart from playing monk, virtually every profession is so damn easy to play. Just practise it for a day or so, and voila! You've learned how to play it.
Regarding coordination. Just listen to what the teamleader says. WTF is difficult about that? Stay in the wards, I'm using migraine on number 5, I have SS on me, bla bla bla. All of it is complete logical if you ask me.
I agree that playing iway is easier than balanced, but dont pretend as if balanced is so extremely difficult to play. It simply isn't.
Having that said, just enjoy this game and don't let others spoil it for you if they play it in a way you don't like.
cleric
I must agree that IWAY is messing up the rank system espically among coordinated teams.
I know many Rank 6-9+ iwayers that BLOOOOOOOOOOOOOW in anything else. If you think you can emote under the bridge and that will get you in ranked teams with a balanced build your kidding yourself. I have been know to quit teams because a players sucks, refuse to play with certain people, or as of late only playing with people i know.
i understand that people can play iway and im not sure if it should be nerfed, but if i see someone iwaying a lot i dont play witht hem. they make the choice to play iway and i make the choice not to.
I know many Rank 6-9+ iwayers that BLOOOOOOOOOOOOOW in anything else. If you think you can emote under the bridge and that will get you in ranked teams with a balanced build your kidding yourself. I have been know to quit teams because a players sucks, refuse to play with certain people, or as of late only playing with people i know.
i understand that people can play iway and im not sure if it should be nerfed, but if i see someone iwaying a lot i dont play witht hem. they make the choice to play iway and i make the choice not to.
geminisaga
its oke if u can play iway and other build too , doesnt hurt. the thing is if u can only play iway and nothing ellse then thats gonna be problem.
JiggyFly
People would stop using IWAY if it stopped winning so much. SO if you don't like it, stop losing to it.
Any random collection of players can do well, and IWAY happens to just be a very good basic outline for a build that really has no set skillset. Thus, why spend 3 hours setting up when you can just IWAY it in 10 minutes, and still have a chance to do quite well.
Any random collection of players can do well, and IWAY happens to just be a very good basic outline for a build that really has no set skillset. Thus, why spend 3 hours setting up when you can just IWAY it in 10 minutes, and still have a chance to do quite well.
Thallandor
Its IWAY or the highway for most pples in HA w/o any rank who just want to do some HA without too much time or hassle.
qwe4rty
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Originally Posted by MrBiggums
balanced players have to gimp their builds just to account for some defense for iway teams which is rediculous
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Count to Potato
There jsut jealous that it works, fame farming is abd i agree, but when u get far with IWAY thats better, why isn't anyone ranting on spike builds, they work and you can fame farm wit em?
qwe4rty
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Originally Posted by sisCo
You obviously dont deserve your Iwayed rank. I can complete the game with my warrior but does that mean I can play warrior in HA? Of course not. PvE is WAY different than PVP and most PvE'rs tend to forget that. Im actually happy I got my r6, so I know for sure you wont be in any of my groups now. gg
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"Im actually happy I got my r6, so I know for sure you wont be in any of my groups now"
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"Teams that ask you to emote just low-esteemed idiots"
So what is it, are you an low esteemed idiot whose going to ask for his rank, and then reject him because hes not high enough rank?
Is rank good? bad?
While PvE is different from PvP, the skills remain the same. I'm going to ask, how did any monk get skilled? He wasn’t born good. He probably got practice in a team setting, or learned some “basics” from PvE. By refusing him into your team, and putting down PvE so easily, you are effectually asking for people to join the game Top Tier material.
You're just flowing with elitism, and not making much sense.
tomcruisejr
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Originally Posted by Count to Potato
There jsut jealous that it works, fame farming is abd i agree, but when u get far with IWAY thats better, why isn't anyone ranting on spike builds, they work and you can fame farm wit em?
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sisCo
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Originally Posted by qwe4rty
Wow, this is just full of hypocrisy and contradictory statements.
"Im actually happy I got my r6, so I know for sure you wont be in any of my groups now" + "Teams that ask you to emote just low-esteemed idiots" So what is it, are you an low esteemed idiot whose going to ask for his rank, and then reject him because hes not high enough rank? Is rank good? bad? While PvE is different from PvP, the skills remain the same. I'm going to ask, how did any monk get skilled? He wasn’t born good. He probably got practice in a team setting, or learned some “basics” from PvE. By refusing him into your team, and putting down PvE so easily, you are effectually asking for people to join the game Top Tier material. You're just flowing with elitism, and not making much sense. |
/cry?
Phaern Majes
Not really so much what he thinks, as what you said.
EDIT: How did I know there would just be flaming here? Surely wasn't the words Defense and IWAY being used together.... /sarcasm
EDIT: How did I know there would just be flaming here? Surely wasn't the words Defense and IWAY being used together.... /sarcasm
Reve2uk
i am annoyed with some ppls views towards IWAY the skill not the build.
i use it in PvP sometimes as a wildcard skill when i am not sure wot else to take, and becasue of it i am normel able to last longer when other team mates so i can either res, get out of there or just conutine to kill :P
but as soon as ppl see u using the skill they are like OMG NooB skill never use that, even thou i find it to be a good life line when everything else fails.
main reason i don't thnik they like it is cos of IWAY teams that work around that skill. And sure that for the skill to work you need some one to die, but in most games you get some one like a team mate or an allie in GvG
i used IWAY with my knock down aftershock warroir build and it preety much owned casters that weren't prepered... but still ppl were like OMG...... even thou i was the only one alive..........
i use it in PvP sometimes as a wildcard skill when i am not sure wot else to take, and becasue of it i am normel able to last longer when other team mates so i can either res, get out of there or just conutine to kill :P
but as soon as ppl see u using the skill they are like OMG NooB skill never use that, even thou i find it to be a good life line when everything else fails.
main reason i don't thnik they like it is cos of IWAY teams that work around that skill. And sure that for the skill to work you need some one to die, but in most games you get some one like a team mate or an allie in GvG
i used IWAY with my knock down aftershock warroir build and it preety much owned casters that weren't prepered... but still ppl were like OMG...... even thou i was the only one alive..........