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Tarun

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15 Apr 2006 at 20:43 - 1

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gaile Gray

Sorry, no, no extra char slots for Head Start, just for the launch itself

I've pre-ordered Factions and was looking forward to the Head Start, getting to play a day early with many friends and guildies. But apparently this won't be happening. I have used all four of my character slots from Guild Wars Prophecies, thus having four level 20 characters, all ascended, etc.

Now, correct me if I'm wrong, or perhaps misreading this. But I won't get to play until the official release day of April 28th? Even though I've pre-ordered and will be getting Factions; I won't get any extra slots to enjoy Factions on the Head Start day of April 27th, even though I've pre-ordered?

Isn't a benefit of pre-ordering so you can play on the Head Start? Sure, it's to reserve you a copy of Factions. But I have four level 20 characters and no way am I deleting them just to play on the Head Start.

Does this seem wrong to anyone else? Is this perhaps a mistake on ArenaNet's part?

golem bigstick

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15 Apr 2006 at 20:50 - 2

if thats true it does seem like some people are getting cheated, but then agian you could just take the boat to cantha with one of your lvl 20's. this wont effect me at all as i have 2 accounts and 3 free slots as it is.

Loviatar

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Join Date: Feb 2005

15 Apr 2006 at 20:52 - 3

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tarun

Now, correct me if I'm wrong, or perhaps misreading this. But I won't get to play until the official release day of April 28th? Even though I've pre-ordered and will be getting Factions; I won't get any extra slots to enjoy Factions on the Head Start day of April 27th, even though I've pre-ordered?

Isn't a benefit of pre-ordering so you can play on the Head Start? Sure, it's to reserve you a copy of Factions. But I have four level 20 characters and no way am I deleting them just to play on the Head Start.

Does this seem wrong to anyone else? Is this perhaps a mistake on ArenaNet's part?

there is a difference between preordering the game and ordering the SEPARATE preorder package.

preordering the game simply reserves you a copy of the game no more no less.

the preorder package has the early access key friends invite etc.

you dont get the two slots until the retail key is entered to keep from having to straighten out accounts for people who take advantage but dont buy.

Dav85

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

15 Apr 2006 at 20:52 - 4

let me clear things for u, since u are only 50% right:
the preorder key just give the head start and no additional slot, for the simple reason that is the factions cdkey that gives the 2 slots once u merge.
the only way u can use the 2 slots in the head start if to purchase factions and register the faction cdkey the 27th. this way u have the head start AND the 2 slots.

this no-slot-for-headstart thing was known since last month.
here retailers are receiving the game 3-4 days earlier and apparently are allowed to sell them as soon as they arrive. just grab your copy in advance and u'll "hack" the problem

Fenix Swiftblade

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15 Apr 2006 at 20:53 - 5

just remember that you'll only be able to link factions to one of those accounts (unless you buy two copies of factions).

Pillz_veritas

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15 Apr 2006 at 20:54 - 6

Well heres the deal...

The Pre-Order gives you access to Factions Content A day Before Hand and the Day Of release. Content is the key word. You do not get the Full Rights Of owning the game. What if I pre-Ordered and Dont buy the actual game? I would end up being able to create 2 extra characters and then I wont need to buy factions if I just want the two Extra slots. Ofcourse they *could* code a disabling thing that makes the slots unplayable but that is just unrealistic as it is simply easier to not enable the slots untill after you purchase the full game. Yes It is a PITA But you lvl 20 characters can still visit factions Via Lions Arch. So long and thanks for all the fish.

twicky_kid

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

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15 Apr 2006 at 21:12 - 7

ZOMG I CAN'T PVP FOR AN ENTIRE DAY!!!!

Come on people this is really nothing. You would have taken one of your c1 characters to c2 anyways so what does it matter? If you've used your 4 slots for pve then just take one of them.

If you have the slot open for pvp don't pvp for a day.

Move on to something more important. Anet did this the best they could without causing more hassle for them and the consumer.

There are much bigger issues in the game right now to discuss.

wolfy3455

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

15 Apr 2006 at 21:15 - 8

Most people will just use their PvP slot, then use one of their new slots as their new pvp slot.

Replicant

Lion's Arch Merchant

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15 Apr 2006 at 23:42 - 9

ahh lovely fighting on the internet..

again read my last post, unless i'm really mistaken which i doubt... You BUY the game from the store seen here you get 2 cd's, and a bunch of other stuff.. and you take that key and link it to your existing account for what.. 2 more character slots.. that you won't get until the day of the official release (april 28th) insted of 1 day earlier to enjoy the factions head start....

uhm yea...

The game has been paid for, it has been linked to the account, and it has been said once it's linked it can't be used to make another account. read some of the past info on factions and you'll see what i said is the truth.

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

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15 Apr 2006 at 23:56 - 10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Replicant

uhm yea...

The game has been paid for, it has been linked to the account, and it has been said once it's linked it can't be used to make another account. read some of the past info on factions and you'll see what i said is the truth.

until your credit card is charged you havent paid for it.

my store does not charge until shipped.

if you went into a store and paid cash in full and go in later to pick it up that is your business.

note that my store had GW in my hands on the 26th so i had the key in a day before early time.

hopefully they will do the same for Factions.

also you have not linked anything except the preorder key to your account as the retail key is not available yet.

you add the retail key to the account to activate the game slots.

the preorder key has no slots on the list of items.

double check that please............preorder items compared to retail items.............note no slots on preorder and just play with what you have until the game is in your hands

Numa Pompilius

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16 Apr 2006 at 00:06 - 11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Replicant

sure an existing prophecies character can be brought over and played

No, AFAIK it can't. AFAIK prophecies characters can only go to Cantha after the official launch. The lack of extra slots means I've pre-ordered for nothing - I wont be able to play in Cantha until after official release. No big deal, I'd have bought the game anyway, but annoying.

Awesome Nuke

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16 Apr 2006 at 00:13 - 12

You can take over your Proph Caracters over to Cantha in the headstart. These are all things that were said weeks ago.. man

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

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16 Apr 2006 at 00:28 - 13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius

No, AFAIK it can't. AFAIK prophecies characters can only go to Cantha after the official launch. The lack of extra slots means I've pre-ordered for nothing - I wont be able to play in Cantha until after official release. No big deal, I'd have bought the game anyway, but annoying.

you can you just dont get the extra 2 slots.

cheer up

Mister_Smiley

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

16 Apr 2006 at 02:44 - 14

OK if you have the pre-order you don't get the extra slots, you need the offical real game key to get the key slots, but most likey you will get the offical game before they have the server open for the people that get the head start, so if you have that key in the game you will get those slot at the time the early realise is actaved. But i could be wrong

Savio

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16 Apr 2006 at 03:14 - 15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius

No, AFAIK it can't. AFAIK prophecies characters can only go to Cantha after the official launch. The lack of extra slots means I've pre-ordered for nothing - I wont be able to play in Cantha until after official release. No big deal, I'd have bought the game anyway, but annoying.

From the Game and Dev Tracker forum, which was created to eliminate some of the hassle in finding official responses:

Concerning transfer of Prophecies characters and no added character slots for Head Start:
3/31 Alex Weekes: Pre-Order Early Access Slot Question
More concerning just the no added character slots for Head Start:
4/03 Gaile Gray: Early Access DOES NOT get new slots until Full Access starts

Mister_Smiley

Wilds Pathfinder

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16 Apr 2006 at 03:50 - 16

Well Savio you just answered all the questions. Nice, thank god i still got one open.

Dove_Song

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

16 Apr 2006 at 09:11 - 17

You don't have to make a new character like you had to do for the Preveiw event.

On the 27th You can take one of your Current level 20's put him on the ship to Cantha, and go hang out with your buddies...when you enter your key code you'll get your two slots, but you have to do that on the 28th.

CyberNigma

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16 Apr 2006 at 18:28 - 18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pillz_veritas

Well heres the deal...

The Pre-Order gives you access to Factions Content A day Before Hand and the Day Of release. Content is the key word. You do not get the Full Rights Of owning the game. What if I pre-Ordered and Dont buy the actual game? I would end up being able to create 2 extra characters and then I wont need to buy factions if I just want the two Extra slots. Ofcourse they *could* code a disabling thing that makes the slots unplayable but that is just unrealistic as it is simply easier to not enable the slots untill after you purchase the full game. Yes It is a PITA But you lvl 20 characters can still visit factions Via Lions Arch. So long and thanks for all the fish.

Yeah, I have to agree here. I thought they were being rather silly by creating temporary invite keys that you could send to friends (or yourself) which allowed you to create a temp account. Those people paid nothing for the game yet they get to keep the 4 slots they were given and a whole account. It was just extra effort that ANet spent writing code to disable those slots after the event was over. I imagine that is pretty confusing to people who can log into an account, see their 4 slots and/or characters and not be able to access them. Why should they even be able to store their characters (wasting valuable storage/database space which those of of that DID pay could use) when they didn't pay a dime? Two slots for free? heck quite a few people got four slots and a whole account for free..

endofsarcasm.

Tarun

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17 Apr 2006 at 14:43 - 19

As was pointed out, though it appears the post was deleted.

The NORTH AMERICAN PRE-ORDER INCLUDES:
A key that provides access to the Factions Preview Event on March 24th
Access to Guild Wars Factions twenty-four hours before the official release date
Exclusive in-game items—one unique item for each of the two new professions
A "friend" key that gives one of your friends access to the Factions Preview Event on March 24th
A 14-day, 10-hour trial of Guild Wars (original Prophecies campaign)
A tactical guide
A quick-reference card
A CD that includes concept art, wallpapers, and in-game trailers

Source...

There's no fine print saying you need to have a slot open to be able to enjoy the Early Access. There is nothing there saying if you have used all of your character slots you can take one of yor Chapter One characters over.

If you pre-ordered you should have two slots so you can get a Head Start with an Assassin or Ritualist.

From the Factions FAQ:

Will those who pre-order Guild Wars Factions be given early access to the game?

Yes, those who pre-order will have a 24-hour head-start on players who do not pre-order the game.
Source...

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

17 Apr 2006 at 14:56 - 20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tarun

There's no fine print saying you need to have a slot open to be able to enjoy the Early Access. There is nothing there saying if you have used all of your character slots you can take one of yor Chapter One characters over.

If you pre-ordered you should have two slots so you can get a Head Start with an Assassin or Ritualist.

take one of your level 20 characters over just the same as i did for the event.

NOTE THAT THE PREORDER LIST HAS NO REPEAT NO MENTION OF SLOTS FOR THE EARLY 24 HOURS

YOU HAVE EARLY ACCESS WITH YOUR LEVEL 20. USE IT OR WAIT ONE LOUSY DAY TO CREATE YOUR ASS/RIT

Mordakai

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17 Apr 2006 at 15:13 - 21

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberNigma

heck quite a few people got four slots and a whole account for free..

I wonder how long they'll keep those? Forever?

Yeah, I can see NO REASON for anet not releasing the bonus slots a day early. Some arguments I read were that people would leave their rare items on the new slots, and then be pissed when they couldn't access them b/c they didn't buy the game after the Early Start was over...

so we're being punished for others' stupidity? And wouldn't that be incentive to buy the game anyway?

Tarun

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17 Apr 2006 at 15:56 - 22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mordakai

I wonder how long they'll keep those? Forever?

Yeah, I can see NO REASON for anet not releasing the bonus slots a day early. Some arguments I read were that people would leave their rare items on the new slots, and then be pissed when they couldn't access them b/c they didn't buy the game after the preview was over...

so we're being punished for others' stupidity? And wouldn't that be incentive to buy the game anyway?

Exactly. They should at least clarify on the pages mentioned in my prior post, or correct this issue.

If they can give FOUR slots to people for the Preview Events, then surely they can allow people who entered their pre-order key to get two slots. If they don't enter their code within x days, then disable the two extra slots. Simple.

Loviatar

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Join Date: Feb 2005

17 Apr 2006 at 16:19 - 23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tarun

If they don't enter their code within x days, then disable the two extra slots. Simple.

i guess you missed all the bitching, whineing, and moaning after the first event when many people transfered good items over to preorder accounts only to find their favorite items locked away until the next event because they forgot to move them back

some jerk was yelling that Anet should be sued for holding his items for ransom (buying the next chapter) to get his items back.

forget it

Rayne Nightfyre

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17 Apr 2006 at 18:41 - 24

It's a disappointment, and I understand since my main account is also filled with four advanced PvE characters. I was also disappointed with the FPE because I could not check out Cantha with my existing characters on my main account. So I deleted my pre-searing character on my second account just to check out the FPE. But anyway, yes it does seem fair that we should have the two slots along with the 24-hour head start, but then again, it's only 24 hours and there's not a whole lot that we would be missing out on. Use that time to take your characters into Cantha and get to know the place a bit.

Mordakai

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Kyhlo

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17 Apr 2006 at 19:19 - 25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loviatar

i guess you missed all the bitching, whineing, and moaning after the first event when many people transfered good items over to preorder accounts only to find their favorite items locked away until the next event because they forgot to move them back

some jerk was yelling that Anet should be sued for holding his items for ransom (buying the next chapter) to get his items back.

forget it

Hmm, well, I guess this is a case of a whiny few ruining things for the rest.

In this context, it does make sense for Anet just to skip all the commotion!

I've changed my mind (not that it effected me anyway!)

Kool Pajamas

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18 Apr 2006 at 00:25 - 26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tarun

Exactly. They should at least clarify on the pages mentioned in my prior post, or correct this issue.

If they can give FOUR slots to people for the Preview Events, then surely they can allow people who entered their pre-order key to get two slots. If they don't enter their code within x days, then disable the two extra slots. Simple.

But which slots would they disable? They would have to look through every account to know which slots have factions characters and which slot has prophecies.

Tarun

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18 Apr 2006 at 14:19 - 27

Not that hard to code up a program algorithm to check and verify that information. After all they're going to delete those guest accounts from the FPE.

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

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18 Apr 2006 at 16:01 - 28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tarun

Not that hard to code up a program algorithm to check and verify that information. After all they're going to delete those guest accounts from the FPE.

they avoid the problem completely so the time can be spent on the game and not sorting a mess out.

and it is not as easy as you think.

the guest accounts go poof and no sorting needed.

use one of your level 20 characters or if 24 hours on your ass/rit is that important delete and use that slot.

if deleteing is something you cannot do deal with what you have.

they never stated slots with early access

Kool Pajamas

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18 Apr 2006 at 19:15 - 29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tarun

Not that hard to code up a program algorithm to check and verify that information. After all they're going to delete those guest accounts from the FPE.

Ok so lets say I have two extra slot now and with the extra 2 I now have 4 open spots. I make an Assassin, Rit, and a new Necro starting in Cantha along with an Assassin pvp character.

They will have to delete 2 of those and lock out 2. Which do they delete? What if I wanted to save a couple of those for when I eventually did buy factions?

Major headache, its better to avoid it all.

boxterduke

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18 Apr 2006 at 19:36 - 30

This makes perfect sense, the preorder key gives you access to the game 24 hours before anyone else.

The reason behind no extra slots is that they are preventing people from getting annyoyed after the 28 hours period.

Lets say you bought the game online and it arrived Monday May 1st, that means that for Saturday and Sunday you will not be able to play your character on the fifth slot.

I think lots of people would be complaining if that happened.

On another note, I'm more excited on taking one of my current characters to Cantha more than creating a new Rit or Assassin. I spent a year with my current characters and I'm attached to them.

sledgeunderhill

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18 Apr 2006 at 19:42 - 31

I'd also like to add that for my friends that do not have blank slots available to roll up a new PvE toon, I'll be using that 24 hour access to bring my existing characters over to accompany them. There will be ample time to play with level 0 characters after I get the release in my hands. What is more precious is the chance to have early access and the chance to explore it with friends.

And yes, I'm taking that next day off and I don't plan to sleep.

boxterduke

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18 Apr 2006 at 19:48 - 32

Quote:

Originally Posted by sledgeunderhill

I'd also like to add that for my friends that do not have blank slots available to roll up a new PvE toon, I'll be using that 24 hour access to bring my existing characters over to accompany them. There will be ample time to play with level 0 characters after I get the release in my hands. What is more precious is the chance to have early access and the chance to explore it with friends.
And yes, I'm taking that next day off and I don't plan to sleep.

Exactly.
Taking current toons with friends over to new areas would be much more exciting than playing new ones.

MelechRic

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N/Mo

18 Apr 2006 at 19:56 - 33

It's also easier to exploit^H^Hre new farming areas with a level 20 as opposed to a level 2 character.