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Racthoh

Did I hear 7 heroes?

Join Date: May 2005

Scars Meadows [SMS], Guild Leader (Not Recruiting)

16 Apr 2006 at 00:09 - 1

Sure, people have cleared the Fissure of Woe time and time again... gone in with smaller and smaller groups, tweaked builds countless times to get things as efficient as possible to kill everything as quickly as possible.

But... just how quickly? Well, here is the challenge I propose that I doubt could probably ever be achieved even with a full group of 8 (but please, prove me wrong).

Kill as many enemies as possible... with a single scroll of berserker's insight. The one that provides a 300% boost of experience, provided you kill an enemy every 30 seconds. Not limiting it to the size of the group, hold the book for aggro if you want, I could care less. The only rule is that the scroll must not expire. Keep track of the number of enemies you kill, or simply compare your experience total to when you entered to when you stop, and post it.

I think this would be rather difficult given a few factors. Firstly, you will need a path that will allow you to jump from mob to mob without much delay. Not only that, but if any of your builds are too energy dependant you will not have much time to rest which could cause a slowdown.

So, any opinions on the feasibility of this... and if not, good luck.

cerb

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Oct 2005

Sept-Iles, QC, Canada

Les Tric??ratops Sont Nos [Amis]

Mo/

16 Apr 2006 at 00:14 - 2

I have the best idea ever for this. I'm gonna start a blood spike group.

Murder In China

Banned

Join Date: Sep 2005

/B/Chan

Looking for one

W/

16 Apr 2006 at 00:51 - 3

I think someone that farms the Spider Cave will win this.

General Typhus

Banned

Join Date: Sep 2005

Behind the bush once again

Guillotine Tactics [GanK] ~ Leader

W/E

16 Apr 2006 at 01:24 - 4

I liek this idea, a split group would be in order though I'd think. One warrior runs off to the beach, a ranger to the forest, and a group of 6 heads through the shadows etc. I'd start a guild group immediately for this, but err...ban't. The warrior and ranger can time their kills so that when the group is interloping between mobs, they will kill an enemy or two. (if this is within reason) :0

Tigers Anger

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

Master Casters [MC]

R/Me

16 Apr 2006 at 01:41 - 5

I guess you could have a solo'er of each sort to first run to all their required locations, turn on the scroll, then speak on a chat program and get them to time their kills eg. take a monster down to very low health then kill it once about 20 seconds since last kill has happened. Would be very hard to co-ordinate imo, wish there was an in-game timer.

tuna-fish_sushi

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

California

E/A

16 Apr 2006 at 03:05 - 6

hehe yeah start with a w/mes at start of cave
r/mes at the start of forest
mabye 2 55 necros to solo shadows
and probably 4 smiter monks just go and own the skeletons
all on vent/ts would be very hard prolly just say a word when they kill a monster to know when the 30 seconds is renewed

General Typhus

Banned

Join Date: Sep 2005

Behind the bush once again

Guillotine Tactics [GanK] ~ Leader

W/E

16 Apr 2006 at 03:38 - 7

Quote:

Originally Posted by tuna-fish_sushi

hehe yeah start with a w/mes at start of cave
r/mes at the start of forest
mabye 2 55 necros to solo shadows
and probably 4 smiter monks just go and own the skeletons
all on vent/ts would be very hard prolly just say a word when they kill a monster to know when the 30 seconds is renewed I think the main body of 6 would work the best in truth. 55 necros are tricky to run, and shadow mesmers can be very nasty if you dont keep your enchants covered.

LoKi Foxfire

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

Florida

One Corgi Army {OCA}

R/Rt

16 Apr 2006 at 03:41 - 8

I'm still wanting to see a build (non-55 of course) that can solo all of FoW by itself... now that would be interesting. :]

Tigers Anger

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

Master Casters [MC]

R/Me

16 Apr 2006 at 15:31 - 9

It would have to be a warrior build, and the warriors name would have to be Racthoh Demini lol :P

Anarion Silverhand

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2005

Denmark

None

16 Apr 2006 at 15:56 - 10

Good luck on beating the 2-monk groups as a warrior..

Kcp

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

OBF

N/

16 Apr 2006 at 16:28 - 11

I uploaded the first quest walkthrough for FoW early this week. Total run time was 36 minutes to take out 63 shadows to clear path for rastigan and kill shadow lord and his abyssal guards. That averages out to almost a kill every 30 seconds , but the problem is the groups usually drop all at once.

Now if there was a competent solo warrior, ranger doing there runs along with a competent solo necro to fill in the gaps. I think you could clear quite a bit with the scroll. The necro can easily take out most of the skeletons as well ( - the 2 ether breaker, 3 icehand guard units,)and clear the shadow army on other end of spider tunnel, the multi abyssal, shadow mesmer groups are a no go for the necro towards the tower of strength. Necro can kill spiders too, but the constant savage shot spam makes it tricky.

Maybe the warrior tanking the large abyssal shadow mesmer groups around tower of strength while the necro kills could keep the killing going steadily( if the warrior can self heal and stay alive.)

It's doable, but like mentioned earlier voice chat would probably be a must, and experience doing your part with a group soloing is a major factor as well.

One problem I see is that with all these "soloers" running to their areas they trigger patrol movements of the shadow army into the solo necro's area. It could slow the necro down since the patrols will not be in their normal areas and able to be combined for mass killing in larger groups.

Racthoh

Did I hear 7 heroes?

Join Date: May 2005

Scars Meadows [SMS], Guild Leader (Not Recruiting)

16 Apr 2006 at 16:32 - 12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kcp

I uploaded the first quest walkthrough for FoW early this week. Total run time was 36 minutes to take out 63 shadows to clear path for rastigan and kill shadow lord and his abyssal guards. That averages out to almost a kill every 30 seconds , but the problem is the groups usually drop all at once. How much of that time was spent chatting, planning strategy, or waiting for patrols though?

Kcp

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

OBF

N/

16 Apr 2006 at 16:34 - 13

Alot of time was spent setting casters up side by side, waiting on patrols and the run for rastigan to get to tower, stuff like that racthoh. So basically ya you're not constantly spamming SS on everything. It requires the proper set up for aoe before you go in for the kills. This is where your teammates would have to fill in the gaps

*edit BTW the video is a solo necro, so I was all by my lonesome.

Ira Blinks

Banned

Join Date: Feb 2006

16 Apr 2006 at 17:47 - 14

I think it would be either book tank pulling stuff around from as many places as possible and nuking them or long and tedious pulling few mobs around for killing every 30 seconds...
Heres an example of killing pretty much everything around tower of courage in one go.

Soul Torn

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

check your 6

Disciples of Mordor (LOTR)

18 Apr 2006 at 22:53 - 15

Hey I like this idea! Splitting parties is not something I see very often even though it can be pretty effective at certain times. I think im gonna go try this, if I do I will post how far we get

Gli

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

18 Apr 2006 at 23:15 - 16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tigers Anger

I guess you could have a solo'er of each sort to first run to all their required locations, turn on the scroll, then speak on a chat program and get them to time their kills eg. take a monster down to very low health then kill it once about 20 seconds since last kill has happened. Would be very hard to co-ordinate imo, wish there was an in-game timer. There is a timer, I think. The scroll's effect marker does the 'almost timed out' flash if I remember correctly.

Solberg the Exiled

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Xen of Onslaught

N/

20 Apr 2006 at 19:02 - 17

An intresting idea indeed. I would believe that with a good group of 8, (and some luck.... a lot of luck for that matter) FoW can be mostly cleared under 1 scroll effect.

A split is quite intersting, since a specific build can clear most of an area. Although actually putting together a gruop might be quite time consuming.

lagrand1

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Zombies of War

W/

20 Apr 2006 at 19:47 - 18

great idea. At first thought, I thought, no way, but really, have 2 groups. One 5 or 6 man book team, other 2 rangers. Stay together until get to the rear forest entrance. Split up there. Rangers go into forest while other book group team does forge, cave beach. Rangers finish forest when other team does shadow groups in back of forge, meet up in cave, after cave done, rangers go to entrance to lava by plains entrance, and kill off some of the wind riders(can't remember name). After they finish a few, other team will have killed of 4 monk group, and join for main assault to that area.

Could work.
Maybe.

sh4ft3d

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

A long time ago, in a galaxy far far away...

Frank Ought To Monk [FotM]

W/

20 Apr 2006 at 19:50 - 19

If someone could do this, I think they deserve a medal. Of gold. From Anet. 300 pounds heavy. Seriously

SnipiousMax

Perfectly Elocuted

Join Date: Sep 2005

22 Apr 2006 at 13:25 - 20

What is the range of the scroll?

Anarion Silverhand

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2005

Denmark

None

22 Apr 2006 at 13:42 - 21

To my knowledge, the scroll affects the party, no matter where the partymembers are..

unknown_gold

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2006

22 Apr 2006 at 13:51 - 22

maybe

2 warriors on beach using the modified rachthoh build
2 rangers on forest using the modified ? build
(1 warrior takes about an hour to solo the snarling driftwoods, doubters dryders and the whole cave. which is about around 100+ monsters)
(1 ranger takes about an hour to solo the whole forest which is around 150+ monsters)
4 Trappers using the 4 man fow solo trapping build

it could work out....but trappers would have rests inbetween mobs they agro into the traps warriors if they agro spiders and all seperate where no healing spring is in and rangers can interr the spirit woods troll unguent.

warriors: 12 seconds on each spider 2 seconds inbetween
rangers: 15 seconds on each snarling,spirit,cave spider. 8 seconds inbetween with pulling and all
Trappers: 28 seconds putting traps down and pulling. 20 seconds inbetween

everyone meets back up at battlefield.. then pwn impalers and chaos axe ppl.. those guys are pretty easy.

but meeting up at battlefield will take alot more then 30 seconds.. so... dunno :P

Skuld

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2005

Thousend Tigers Apund Ur Head [Ttgr]

A/

23 Apr 2006 at 08:20 - 23

why take 2 to the cave and 2 to the forest? and why crappy trappers?? it would be a lot faster with damage casters and protection =)

Poison Ivy

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

Toronto

Hopping

Mo/A

23 Apr 2006 at 08:31 - 24

TS Would definnally be required.

The spider cave and the forest would have to be occupied by a Warrior and a Ranger, and kill finish off their an enemy ONLY to keep the scroll in effect, while the other 6 clears everything else. Only plan I can think of in 20 seconds.

Ares Enduwa

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2006

Syko Killers

N/Me

23 Apr 2006 at 18:02 - 25

1 Warrior in the spider cave, 1 ranger at the forest, and 6 people in a group plowing through everything else seems like it would work.

General Typhus

Banned

Join Date: Sep 2005

Behind the bush once again

Guillotine Tactics [GanK] ~ Leader

W/E

23 Apr 2006 at 22:06 - 26

Well, me and some guildies have perfected a rather efficient 3 man build as well capable of clearing the forge and beyond. Only thing we havent attempted with it is the fire forest. I'm sure we can pull it off though.

Senator Tom

Banned

Join Date: Aug 2005

California

[Dark]

W/

23 Apr 2006 at 22:07 - 27

well me and my friends just did this, visited heaven's gate afterwords

Y.T.

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2005

Mo/

23 Apr 2006 at 22:52 - 28

why not use another scroll? if u're planning to do quests in fow u can activate few adventurers scrolls in flaming forest, near the 3rd tower (forget the name, u're getting quest from npc near the forgemaster when u're getting khobay and restore quests), in spidercave and near the wailing lord

anyway u'll get like 90k exp for all fow quests in 1 run - of cos its nice to get even more exp but why bother.... just take a break then start another run....

edited; spelling

General Typhus

Banned

Join Date: Sep 2005

Behind the bush once again

Guillotine Tactics [GanK] ~ Leader

W/E

24 Apr 2006 at 00:16 - 29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Y.T.

why not use another scroll? if u're planning to do quests in fow u can activate few adventurers scrolls in flaming forest, near the 3rd tower (forget the name, u're getting quest from npc near the forgemaster when u're getting khobay and restore quests), in spidercave and near the wailing lord

anyway u'll get like 90k exp for all fow quests in 1 run - of cos its nice to get even more exp but why bother.... just take a break then start another run....

edited; spelling The challenge is to clear the whole thing on ONE scroll, not multiple.

Shadow-Hunter

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

Denmark

[HH] [Hax]

Mo/

24 Apr 2006 at 13:23 - 30

It seems doable to me... A warrior at The Cave spiders and a Ranger at the Forest, killing off a monster once in a while to keep scroll going.. While 6 others are going on a killing spree on the other areas in Fow.. This could be done for UW too ? xD

~Shadow

remmeh

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

Apathy Inc [AI]

R/Mo

24 Apr 2006 at 15:17 - 31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tigers Anger

It would have to be a warrior build, and the warriors name would have to be Racthoh Demini lol :P ahaha... LAMS3K cleared the first area, but very slowly and painfully

with regard to the challenge, you'd definetly need a spike group. perhaps blood spike with PP+SD. ranger spike might work too, but to a lesser extent (i'm thinking of less self-healing compared to blood spike, spiteful/empathy, blurred vision)

purebad

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

Kentucky

Du Vrangr Gatas [MAGE]

24 Apr 2006 at 16:34 - 32

what a horrible job for the ranger and warrior soloing to just sit there taking it while waiting for the team to say ok you can kill something.