Do your eyes hurt?

Ghettochild2600

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Join Date: Feb 2006

at my computer

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How many hours a day do you spend sitting at a computer? I spend around 10-14 hours a day on a computer for about the last 3 years and I have noticed my eye sight getting worse all the time If the same thing is happening to you keep in mind these few helpfull exorcises.
1.Look away from your computer every 45-60 minutes and try to focus on a object 100ft away do this for 5 minutes then try to focus on a object 10ft away do this everyday.
2.move your computer monitor alittle farther back every day or 2 this can also help.
3.Take a Break.
These 2 exocises will help you results are not emmediate of course and could take you up to a year to start seeing any diference but it will help keep your eye sight from worsening.

hope that helps

Murder In China

Murder In China

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Here's an exercise I found to relax your eye mucsles; close your eyes, tense up all your muscles and beathe deeply through your nose. At the same time, relax your muscles and exhale.

This exercise helps trick your eye muscles to relax.

lyra_song

lyra_song

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Join Date: Oct 2005

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Go play HA, those later levels are eye-blindingly bad x.x

dont just exercise your eyes, hands, wrist and back should be stretched too.

Tainek

Tainek

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Join Date: Dec 2005

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ghettochild2600
How many hours a day do you spend sitting at a computer? I soend around 10-14 hours a day on a computer for about the last 3 years and I have noticed my eye sight getting worse all the time If the same thing is happening to you keep in mind these few helpfull exorcises.
1.Look away from your computer every 45-60 minutes and try to focus on a object 100ft away do this for 5 minutes then try to focus on a object 10ft away do this everyday.
2.move your computer monitot alittle farther back every day or 2 this can also help.

These 2 exocises will help you results are not emmediate of course and could take you up to a year to start seeing any diference but it will help keep your eye sight from worsening.

hope that helps
tbh, when possible you should


1: Take a 5 min break every hour, get up, grab a beer etc, this also helps prevent DVT and the such
2: Keep the monitors refreshrate as high as you can, this helps *Most* peoples eyesight
3: Dont use too high a resolution, you shouldnt strain to read
4: Keep your desk well lit
5: keep a good position (back straight, arms almost parrallel to the floor, with a slight downwards tilt, not to close -but equally not to far- this can be much worse


this having been said, i run at 50Hz (any higher and i get strained eyes) and two monitors both @ 1600*1200 , some people are just more sensitive

The Real Roy Keane

The Real Roy Keane

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Dublin, Ireland

If your eyes are hurting, it basically means you've been playing too long. You say you're in front of a computer for up to fourteen hours a day, which sounds insane..but if this is a as a result of your job I suppose it's understandable, and unavoidable.

lord_shar

lord_shar

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Join Date: Jul 2005

near SF, CA

Flat pannel displays also help minimize eye strain since they don't refresh-strobe. When I made the change from CRT to LCD, I noticed the difference almost immediately after a 14-hour marathon LAN party.

Brett Kuntz

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I found my eyes got sore after using LCD's for gaming. I'm no eye expert but I think it's because LCD's have ultra slow refresh rates (25ms~) so the motion blur gets pretty bad in FPS's or games like GW, and I think that's why. I found I was trying too much to focus on the blurry screen.

Ghettochild2600

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2006

at my computer

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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Real Roy Keane
If your eyes are hurting, it basically means you've been playing too long. You say you're in front of a computer for up to fourteen hours a day, which sounds insane..but if this is a as a result of your job I suppose it's understandable, and unavoidable.
Nope its not from my job Its from computer games i have 7 computers set up in my room which I have 2 monitors each for 3 of my comps I set my refresh rate to about 85+ in hope for better game performance soon I will be getting hired agian at my old job and there I will be sitting in front of a screen for up to 10 hours a day to.

Alleji

Alleji

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Join Date: Jan 2006

My eyes are fine, but then I don't play 14 hours a day, don't sit in complete dark and have an LCD monitor.

I find that having light on in your room while you play helps a lot with your eyes. A brightly-glowing monitor in complete darkness is very disruptive.

Lady Lorwinia

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

In this universe. In north america. That should keep you pedophiles guessing^^

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ghettochild2600
How many hours a day do you spend sitting at a computer? I soend around 10-14 hours a day on a computer for about the last 3 years and I have noticed my eye sight getting worse all the time If the same thing is happening to you keep in mind these few helpfull exorcises.
1.Look away from your computer every 45-60 minutes and try to focus on a object 100ft away do this for 5 minutes then try to focus on a object 10ft away do this everyday.
2.move your computer monitot alittle farther back every day or 2 this can also help.

These 2 exocises will help you results are not emmediate of course and could take you up to a year to start seeing any diference but it will help keep your eye sight from worsening.

hope that helps

Not to be rude, but you really shouldn't be spending that amount of time in front of a computer screen.

But my advice is go outside for 1hr everyday. Breat in the fresh air. And remember to take all your vitamins^^

You will end up needing glasses very soon if you do not exercise your eyes.

Roll them around, look at something close then something far away. Looking at the same thing for hours and hours damages your eyes.

You should get a job or a girlfriend or hang out with your friends. Go see a movie or something.

But hope your eyes get better.

lord_shar

lord_shar

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Join Date: Jul 2005

near SF, CA

Quote:
Originally Posted by kunt0r
I found my eyes got sore after using LCD's for gaming. I'm no eye expert but I think it's because LCD's have ultra slow refresh rates (25ms~) so the motion blur gets pretty bad in FPS's or games like GW, and I think that's why. I found I was trying too much to focus on the blurry screen.
Sorry to say this, but that sounds like a really low-end LCD. Good models hit 60hz(DVI) no prob at < 12-16 ms response times. Ghosting isn't even visible with the newer fast-response LCD's.

I can see why your eyes hurt after that ordeal...

Ba5sKing

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Join Date: Aug 2005

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hmm never really thoguht about my eyes then again i never think of much anyways

floppinghog

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Join Date: Oct 2005

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your monitor is the closest thing to staring into a light bulb. what do you expect?

best thing you can do for your eyes is not look at it up close, making your eyes focus on a distance object and then back is a fools tale. it doesnt magicly help your eyes, your eyes re-focus thousands of times a day; think about it.

fiery

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maryland

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Also take out ya contacts while playing the game for long periods of time, seen on t.v. contact fungus, and wear ya glasses while playing late nights,

strcpy

strcpy

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Join Date: Jul 2005

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Large screens and frequent short breaks are the key to me. For CRT's the glasses I wear I pay extra for a coating that blocks some light specially made for heavy computer users (I'm a software engineer - no real choice). I go to the water machine, candy machine, coke machine, something several times a day. Usually whenever I hit a good break spot in whatever part of the software lifecycle I'm doing - and I take a short 5 minute break at *every* one of them. It also helps maintain concentration all day to have those short breaks.

Though recently I switched to LCD monitors and like it a lot. Personally I feel better with a dual monitor setup when I can afford one (or the employer will provide one). Not really that useful for gaming, but code in one monitor and output or reference guides on the other means I refocusing and generally moving enough to feel better. Most computer heavy jobs can benefit from dual monitors both in terms of production and ergonomics.

For me, the largest problems is finger joints. I used to be really rough on keyboards due to hitting the keys hard (still am hard on them to some extent but for other reasons, though most gamers know about wearing WASD, ctrl, alt, and a few other keys out quickly ). I've never really had great joints (they pop and crack too much, a little arthritus in one joint by about 27-28 years of age), but I did some real long term damage to them.

Though, for long gaming sessions you are probably doing more damage from not moving your legs than anything (assuming that your keyboard, mouse, and monitor are properly placed, which just pretty much means comfortable and most of us do that anyway). I know I'm not the only one that gets into a game and finds I've sit totally imobile except for my hands for well over 8 hours from time to time. That's actually dangerous and can kill. While rare, as my generation ages (30-40 age - the "Nintendo generation" or "Atari generation" - whicever you prefer) it will become a bigger issue. I know that after a particularly long gaming session my left knee and right ankle is sore for about ten minutes after I start moving. It's not anything close to bad but will only get worse as I age.

Amusingly enough I like the "You have been playing for 1 hour" message many have complained about, I wish there were more games that did it. I remember to move a bit during long gaming sessions when it pops up, though I don't think that's why they added it.

Poison Ivy

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Join Date: Jan 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by strcpy
Amusingly enough I like the "You have been playing for 1 hour" message many have complained about, I wish there were more games that did it. I remember to move a bit during long gaming sessions when it pops up, though I don't think that's why they added it.
And when you reach 4 hours, it tells you to take a break and stop playing

Arkantos

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Poison Ivy
And when you reach 4 hours, it tells you to take a break and stop playing
Isnt it 3 hrs? meh.

No offence, but 10-14hrs a day for the past 3 years is insane. I dont think its healthy to stare at a computer screen that long

Corinthian

Corinthian

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Join Date: Sep 2005

If your eyes start to hurt, PLAY LESS.

It seems like an obvious sign.

M1h4iL

M1h4iL

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Join Date: Apr 2005

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Corinthian
If your eyes start to hurt, PLAY LESS.

It seems like an obvious sign.
Thats a good point, also if you have a CRT monitor always have it at highest possible refresh rate, or at least above 75 hertz. Flat panel screens are easier on eyes I heard.

D.O.C

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Join Date: Feb 2006

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I find that, when i go see a movie, i come out with my eyes hurting more than after a long gaming session lol. just walk around your house not staring at a bright screen for afew minutes every once in a while, does te trick for me

ExDeity

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Join Date: Aug 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lady Lorwinia
Not to be rude, but you really shouldn't be spending that amount of time in front of a computer screen.

But my advice is go outside for 1hr everyday. Breat in the fresh air. And remember to take all your vitamins^^

You will end up needing glasses very soon if you do not exercise your eyes.

Roll them around, look at something close then something far away. Looking at the same thing for hours and hours damages your eyes.

You should get a job or a girlfriend or hang out with your friends. Go see a movie or something.

But hope your eyes get better.
Your post was very rude, despite your half-assed disclaimer saying it wasn't your intention. He wasn't asking for advice on his social life, he was giving advice on how to help gamers who play often relax their eyes. There was nothing negative about his post, yet sure enough, the inevitable judgment took place when you decided to make a criticism on his current situation, which he was not complaining about, by the way.

To stay on topic and to (hopefully) avoid a flame war in this otherwise-helpful thread, I would like to thank the OP for the advice. Sometimes, I too find myself staring at a computer screen for quite a few hours in a day. While this is not every day, I do not wish to have poor eye sight a few years down the line.

Thanks again.

Theos

Theos

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There is a "quick" remedy for such loss of clarity in eye-sight. Over the summer or some long break period, go off on a vacation away from TV's, Computers, and the like. Your eyes will start to heal from the endless strain a computer puts on them. Afterall this is a temporary, as in not irreversable, problem your eyes may incur.

Also try to stay atleast two feet away from your monitor and, as has been said, take hourly breaks where you can go outside and run or something. Your eyes will thank you.

natus

natus

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Join Date: Jul 2005

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My eyes are made of pixels :F

well, usualy, i just take a break, go outside...jump :/

Str0b0

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Join Date: Feb 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by kunt0r
I found my eyes got sore after using LCD's for gaming. I'm no eye expert but I think it's because LCD's have ultra slow refresh rates (25ms~) so the motion blur gets pretty bad in FPS's or games like GW, and I think that's why. I found I was trying too much to focus on the blurry screen.
You must be using an antique LCD then because the new ones don't do that anymore. They fixed the refresh rate problem and now motion blurring and trails are non existent. I've got a fairly new Sony LCD flat panel, it's about a year old actually, and it has no motion blur. It runs at about 16ms I believe.

fiery

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Also don't play in the dark, turn on some lights or your eyes will be fixated on the screen.

lyra_song

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sometimes when a good song pops up in my playlist i stop playing and dance >.>;;

twicky_kid

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Quote:
Originally Posted by floppinghog
your monitor is the closest thing to staring into a light bulb. what do you expect?

best thing you can do for your eyes is not look at it up close, making your eyes focus on a distance object and then back is a fools tale. it doesnt magicly help your eyes, your eyes re-focus thousands of times a day; think about it.
That has been proven by experiments it does prevent eye strain.

If you focus on an object (far or near) for long periods of time it will cause your eyes to get "stuck."

If you stare at something very close you will become near sighted. If you focus on things far away you will become far sighted. Its not a myth its very true.

I could read the clock on my kitchen stove (about an inch high display) about 20 ft away less than 3 years ago. Now that I'm on a computer for about 16 hours of my day I can no longer see at that range. Mainly because I did not know about these types of exersices and the dmg being done to my eyes.

Jas D

Jas D

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Join Date: Feb 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ghettochild2600
How many hours a day do you spend sitting at a computer? I spend around 10-14 hours a day on a computer for about the last 3 years and I have noticed my eye sight getting worse all the time If the same thing is happening to you keep in mind these few helpfull exorcises.
1.Look away from your computer every 45-60 minutes and try to focus on a object 100ft away do this for 5 minutes then try to focus on a object 10ft away do this everyday.
2.move your computer monitor alittle farther back every day or 2 this can also help.
3.Take a Break.
These 2 exocises will help you results are not emmediate of course and could take you up to a year to start seeing any diference but it will help keep your eye sight from worsening.

hope that helps
OR.. you can mind your own business.

Hunter Sharparrow

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Quote:
If you stare at something very close you will become near sighted. If you focus on things far away you will become far sighted. Its not a myth its very true.
I've spent most of my life outdoors where more things are far away then close up yet I am partially near sighted.

The biggest eye killer when in comes to monitors and tv's is the radiation they emit. Light is a form of radiation but sometimes objects that emit light also emit other (more damaging) forms of radiation (like UV rays and even x-rays). You can buy screens for your monitor to shield against such radiation. Or you can put on sunglasses but only the kind that block out UV radiation (the cheap kind that only dim light wont work). Remember to blink also. Sometimes when your focused on the game your body will sometimes not subconsiously blink as it should since you are in a shallow hipnotic state. Too much air can damage the eyes so you must keep a consious mind open.

Quote:
OR.. you can mind your own business
He makes a considerate post and all you can do is be rude.
I can see why you picked "Jas" it's short for "Ja** **s"

Ghettochild2600

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2006

at my computer

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jas D
OR.. you can mind your own business.
Wtf is are you talking about? I wasnt telling people what to do or how to spend there lives I was simply giving out usefull infomation.

Banin Galori

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Join Date: Dec 2005

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ghettochild2600
Wtf is are you talking about? I wasnt telling people what to do or how to spend there lives I was simply giving out usefull infomation.
Don't mind him. Some people are rude, and you just have to live with it.

I believe you do bring up a good point. Obviously, computer games aren't the cause of ALL eye problems, but staring at a monitor too long probably is a bad idea. It's not that you're always looking at something near. It's that you're staring at the monitor so intensely during gaming, for prolonged periods of time. The result is what happens when you do something too intensely for too long - it starts to damage your eyes.

Of course, I'm pretty sure there has been no study done to prove this. Still though, if it's hurting, don't you think your body is trying to tell you something? Never hurts to take a break once in a while.

Lord Oranos

Lord Oranos

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Join Date: Aug 2005

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Ignore the troll, thx for the info... I wish someone wouldve told me a couple years ago though >.<

aeroclown

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Alleji
My eyes are fine, but then I don't play 14 hours a day, don't sit in complete dark and have an LCD monitor.

I find that having light on in your room while you play helps a lot with your eyes. A brightly-glowing monitor in complete darkness is very disruptive.
That is not an Absolute. It actually makes it worse. CVS or computer vision syndeom is a common problem among computer users. It caused by eye fatigue. There are glasses that help but what really helps is a proper view distance, and the correct lighting. In an enviroment where you use a computer the light should be as much as 80% less that of normal lighting in your room, otherwise your eyes begin to figit and fight glare that you may or may not even notice to start with.

Do A Little research, its a real condition. And Raster Burn does occur, which is the real reason your eyes have that burning sensation, then you couple that with eye fatigue and you get lots of fun things like back pain, neck pain, and headaches.

anonymous

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord Oranos
Ignore the troll, thx for the info... I wish someone wouldve told me a couple years ago though >.<
Yep this info wouldve been useful a few months for me, glasses coming in in a few days, of course now I take breaks as to not worsen my eyes but the damage had already been done. :'(

Ghettochild2600

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2006

at my computer

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I allready got a pair of glasses but I dont wear them while sitting close to the computer becuase I can still see the screen better without them Im far sighted to Things far away are real blurry for me every time I put my glasses on it seems like they focus worse everytime I was thinking of mabey LASIK but im not shure yet how much it will help me out.

LifeInfusion

LifeInfusion

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Join Date: May 2005

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I have Near and farsightedness. There is something called a "break", you know?

Like closing your eyes and stretching? Or shutting GW done for an hour or two?