This thread is simple. List as many common misconceptions people have about Guild Wars. The purpose is simply to clear things up to new people or to people that are utterly confused.
I'll start it off with a few of mine that people just can't seem to understand.
You don't need to to meet the requirement on a staff for the energy bonus. This means you don't need to spend tons of money on a no req raven staff.
Attacks that hit are locational. For example if you don't have any armor on your head, you will be hit occasionally for a very large amount. This is because the attack has struck that location.
Gotta go for now... But keep this thread going to clear up the thoughts in people's heads.
Common misconceptions about the game...
d4nowar
Numa Pompilius
Common Misconceptions People Have About Guild Wars:
1) Guild Wars is basically Diablo3. The only similarity to Diablo is that it's an online MMORPG. WoW is more Diablo3 than GW is, in that WoW, like Diablo, is about levelling and loot, which GW isn't.
2) Guild Wars is basically Counterstrike: Fantasy. The only similarity is that there is a level playing field in the PvP arenas.
3) Guild Wars PvE campaign is short and boring. Unless you take shortcuts and/or get carried by high-level players, playing through the PvE campaign will take you over 100 hours, if you do all quests and explore the explorable regions you can easily double that. The quality of the quests etc is about on par with what you'd see in a single-player rpg.
4) Guild Wars is all about PvP; the PvE is just a tutorial for the PvP. Guild wars has two facets: PvP and PvE. They're connected but separate, to the point they're almost two different games. Neither exists for the other, they're just two sides of the same game.
EDIT: This one isn't a misconception, but it's something new players should know: There are no gimped builds in GW. Whichever combination of professions you select, you can solo the PvE campaign (with henches) and participate with reasonable success in PvP. You can also, later in the game, change secondary profession if you want.
1) Guild Wars is basically Diablo3. The only similarity to Diablo is that it's an online MMORPG. WoW is more Diablo3 than GW is, in that WoW, like Diablo, is about levelling and loot, which GW isn't.
2) Guild Wars is basically Counterstrike: Fantasy. The only similarity is that there is a level playing field in the PvP arenas.
3) Guild Wars PvE campaign is short and boring. Unless you take shortcuts and/or get carried by high-level players, playing through the PvE campaign will take you over 100 hours, if you do all quests and explore the explorable regions you can easily double that. The quality of the quests etc is about on par with what you'd see in a single-player rpg.
4) Guild Wars is all about PvP; the PvE is just a tutorial for the PvP. Guild wars has two facets: PvP and PvE. They're connected but separate, to the point they're almost two different games. Neither exists for the other, they're just two sides of the same game.
EDIT: This one isn't a misconception, but it's something new players should know: There are no gimped builds in GW. Whichever combination of professions you select, you can solo the PvE campaign (with henches) and participate with reasonable success in PvP. You can also, later in the game, change secondary profession if you want.
Kitty
Minion Degeneration won't get worse when you heal them with healingprayers.... or anything else.
Also, magical projectiles are just like any other projectiles: They can't fly through walls or other obstacles.
Also, magical projectiles are just like any other projectiles: They can't fly through walls or other obstacles.
Rayne Nightfyre
Hmm...
Then here is one common misconception that needs to be cleared out of people's heads:
A statement that is simply false. They do have many uses, and are a very, if not the most versatile class in Guild Wars. To play them effectively just takes some thought and preparation before going out into battle, as well as some quick reflexes and quick thinking. Plus a major focus of Mesmers is removing the pressure off of their teammates by taking the edge off of their foes' abilities. Many new and existing players do feel that 'other classes can do it better,' but generally that only applies when some sort of "trick build" or exploit is utilized. Mesmers really shine when in a group that plays the game without shortcuts or tricks, but they can still hold their own when using 'trick builds.' So in a nutshell, those who refuse to believe the usefulness of Mesmers in PvE only reflect their own limitedness in thinking. 
(This marks my last of many efforts in clarifying this misconception, and is not intended to start another rant)
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keep this thread going to clear up the thoughts in people's heads.
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Location: Primary mesmers have no use in PVE
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(This marks my last of many efforts in clarifying this misconception, and is not intended to start another rant)
LifeInfusion
Things I've heard:
"Ele's suck because they can't nuke anymore." <-- is that all that Ele's are good for
"Mesmers suck and all they do is use distortion" <-- the most shallow of the shallow
"Pets don't do any damage" <-- they do, but the AI is horrid so the pets aggro like crazy...
"He is 1337 because he has 15K/FoW armor" <-- just b/c someone has more expensive armor, doesn't mean they are skilled
"He has FoW therefore he is an Ebayer" <-- people don't have to ebay their gold
"Greens > golds" <-- greens can't be modded or dyed
"IDS > Droknar Crafter sword" <-- only if you plan on using Icy mods all the time
"Black dye is the best because it is the most expensive" <-- it is best for killing detail and money...
"Ele's suck because they can't nuke anymore." <-- is that all that Ele's are good for
"Mesmers suck and all they do is use distortion" <-- the most shallow of the shallow
"Pets don't do any damage" <-- they do, but the AI is horrid so the pets aggro like crazy...
"He is 1337 because he has 15K/FoW armor" <-- just b/c someone has more expensive armor, doesn't mean they are skilled
"He has FoW therefore he is an Ebayer" <-- people don't have to ebay their gold
"Greens > golds" <-- greens can't be modded or dyed
"IDS > Droknar Crafter sword" <-- only if you plan on using Icy mods all the time
"Black dye is the best because it is the most expensive" <-- it is best for killing detail and money...
Rayne Nightfyre
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"Mesmers suck and all they do is use distortion" <-- the most shallow of the shallow
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"Black dye is the best because it is the most expensive" <-- it is best for killing detail and money...
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Just as a notice to everyone posting here: Try to keep this thread strictly factual, so newer and misinformed players can refer to it knowing it will be reliable.
tomcruisejr
all rank9+ iwayers are ebayers.
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Konrow
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all rank9+ iwayers are ebayers.
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konohamaru heaven
"Rank means you are better than all others that have a lower Rank than you."
not true, its quite possible someone even at rank 0 can play as well as a rank 6 or 9 since every player can adapt better than others.
not true, its quite possible someone even at rank 0 can play as well as a rank 6 or 9 since every player can adapt better than others.
Raif Bahlaan
*10/10 sundering justifies an astronomical price*
I haven't tried all weapons, but from my experience it's not worth the money.
I haven't tried all weapons, but from my experience it's not worth the money.
Misc Merik
America wins favor with iway. O wait never mind iway doesnt do jack against people with semi functioning brains. GG europe keep on winning it maybe gradually just maybe we might put in a team that doesnt consist of mad hatchet pet sacraficing wars.
Rayne Nightfyre
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"Rank means you are better than all others that have a lower Rank than you."
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Rank 0 ftw.
jules
Uh... lvl 31?
Mister Furious
A big misconception is that elementalists are good at damage.
mint
Common misconception: There is nothing to do after you get level 20
lishi
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all rank9+ iwayers are ebayers.
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Rayne Nightfyre
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Uh... lvl 31?
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Kidding, I did that with a little editing in Paint.
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A big misconception is that elementalists are good at damage.
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Many of Fire Magic's spells show 100+ damage in their description, yet you're lucky if it hits for half of that (excluding against Ice Golems). That is due to a resistance to elemental damage by many creatures in the game, yet Fire still can deal a lot of damage especially if you keep your foes burning.
Air Magic almost seems to ignore armor, it usually hits for 90-100% of its listed potential. Perhaps that is due to the 25% armor penetration of many Air spells, which compensates for the elemental resistance.
The general focus of Elementalists' builds is damage, and with skill they are good at it. Spiteful Spirit basically ruined the concept of AoE damage, making it easier than what it should be.
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all rank 9 player are elitish,snob,and asshole , plus they sucks so take that leet rank 0 ...
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It would be easier to just rename this thread "The Big Controversial Argument Thread" if everyone's going to go that route. Again, try to keep opinions out, and make the point of this thread helping newer players to root out false information regarding gameplay.
Miakoda
Try not to reject those of lvl 15+ in areas such as crystal desert, just because they are not lvl 20 doesn't mean they:
a). Are more likely to die than a lvl 20.
b). Are less skilled than a lvl 20.
c). have no idea what they are doing.
Furthermore it is not required for every mission in the game to have two or more monks in the party, try not to reject other classes waiting around because some people would quit if you don't wait for half an hour for that monk to maybe show up..
If you communicate, it doesn't matter.
a). Are more likely to die than a lvl 20.
b). Are less skilled than a lvl 20.
c). have no idea what they are doing.
Furthermore it is not required for every mission in the game to have two or more monks in the party, try not to reject other classes waiting around because some people would quit if you don't wait for half an hour for that monk to maybe show up..
If you communicate, it doesn't matter.
Misc Merik
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To add to your point dont knock people who have rank and dont act like an elitist jerk about it. Ive had that silly bambi forever now and rarely use it in towns just because people tend to get the wrong view of you when you do use it. If anything I just use it to get into R3+ balanced groups that are looking for a decent shock war. Other than that slight add on I couldnt agree more. Im lost in fow without some hardcore people in my team who know what monsters are doing down there. omg I just realized im not godly at everything... must fix that
HawkofStorms
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A big misconception is that elementalists are good at damage.
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I'd say the idea that there is a "best" secondary class for each profession. A lot of people in the Q&A boards ask that, and everybody tells them different things. There is a lot of flexability and there is no clear cut "best" secondary profession (although many builds do depend on secondaries, like Mo/Me using Inspired Hex in HA, trappers with mantra of resolve, etc).
There are plenty of builds people don't use often that can still work (Mo/N using draw conditions and then plague signet for condition removal + condition spreading for example).
Rayne Nightfyre
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To add to your point dont knock people who have rank and dont act like an elitist jerk about it. Ive had that silly bambi forever now and rarely use it in towns just because people tend to get the wrong view of you when you do use it. If anything I just use it to get into R3+ balanced groups that are looking for a decent shock war. Other than that slight add on I couldnt agree more. Im lost in fow without some hardcore people in my team who know what monsters are doing down there. omg I just realized im not godly at everything... must fix that
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Misc Merik
Agreed Im glad you summed it up better than I did. I could of just went on forever how the two balance each other out... o there im ranting again /end rant.
/end rant.
Evilsod
PvP rank will make you godly at PvE so therefore everyone must bow down to you.
Elitist pricks that seem to think this are too damn common. I remember seeing 'Rank 8 runner heading to xxxx' in LA once. He seemed to honestly think that Rank 8 made him good at running. If you run the flag maybe, but when your running the flag how often do you come up against 50 enemies?
Elitist pricks that seem to think this are too damn common. I remember seeing 'Rank 8 runner heading to xxxx' in LA once. He seemed to honestly think that Rank 8 made him good at running. If you run the flag maybe, but when your running the flag how often do you come up against 50 enemies?
Kakumei
This thread would serve a better purpose if it were a random 'did you know?' kind of thread, as the first post suggests, rather than a typical 'pve vs pvp' or 'rank is meaningless/not meaningless' thread.
On the 'did you know' front, since a lot of people seem to get this confused, using an EXPERT salvage kit on a MONSTER-DROPPED armor with a rune in it will ALWAYS yield the rune. However, attempting to expert salvage YOUR armor will NOT ALWAYS yield the rune.
On the 'did you know' front, since a lot of people seem to get this confused, using an EXPERT salvage kit on a MONSTER-DROPPED armor with a rune in it will ALWAYS yield the rune. However, attempting to expert salvage YOUR armor will NOT ALWAYS yield the rune.
Lexar
Most common misconception from outsiders to the game is that the levelling works like in other mmorpgs, and thus that because the level cap is at 20, that the game must be short.
They should in fact never have called it levels in the first place, maybe it would have gotten even more purchases. Almost on every forum, message board or whatever, there's always someone who thinks like this.
They should in fact never have called it levels in the first place, maybe it would have gotten even more purchases. Almost on every forum, message board or whatever, there's always someone who thinks like this.
Rayne Nightfyre
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PvP rank will make you godly at PvE so therefore everyone must bow down to you.
Elitist pricks that seem to think this are too damn common. I remember seeing 'Rank 8 runner heading to xxxx' in LA once. He seemed to honestly think that Rank 8 made him good at running. If you run the flag maybe, but when your running the flag how often do you come up against 50 enemies? |
Let's end the Rank vs. PvE argument.
DJ Josh
your char should have xxxx in there skill bar-play with skills find what build you like and ignore the noobs that try to tell you how to play(this comes from someone trying to get me to change my mo/w to mo/me,until i reminded them that,as i only use monk skills when playing in groups,all i needed to do was heal and keep everyone alive,which of course i did,this was in thk and i ended up being the only monk half way through).
and about the time it takes to fully do the game,my me/mo is only 88.5 hours old and has done every quest/mission + sf/tombs and a few trips to uw/fow.so god knows where the 100+ hours comes from.also my monk is a little younger and as done more,content wise,than my mesmer.
i should also add that i have never,on all 6 chars,been run or used an overpowered team as i like to play my games to there fullest and don't like shortcuts.
and to mesmers being s***,i have never had so many people begging(yes literaly)me join there guilds for being,as they put it,awsome as when i played through with my mesmer.i have never been one to dis any profesion but i admit i never realy understood how powerful and useful the mesmer was until playing 1 through the game.
and about the time it takes to fully do the game,my me/mo is only 88.5 hours old and has done every quest/mission + sf/tombs and a few trips to uw/fow.so god knows where the 100+ hours comes from.also my monk is a little younger and as done more,content wise,than my mesmer.
i should also add that i have never,on all 6 chars,been run or used an overpowered team as i like to play my games to there fullest and don't like shortcuts.
and to mesmers being s***,i have never had so many people begging(yes literaly)me join there guilds for being,as they put it,awsome as when i played through with my mesmer.i have never been one to dis any profesion but i admit i never realy understood how powerful and useful the mesmer was until playing 1 through the game.
Misc Merik
Another misconception at least when im trying to convince new people to join is in fact loot. My friend is a huge WoW player and instantly asks me where is the best loot in this game when he logs on. All I can really tell him is there is no "godly" items just preference on items appearence. He didnt grasp that and in about 3 months I bought his account off him for 15 bucks, because he was in desperate need of gas money.
Rayne Nightfyre
Lol, it is indeed somewhat hard for players of other games such as WoW to grasp the new concepts brought in by ArenaNet. Regarding armor and loot, basically it comes down to apperance vs. performance. If you want both, you'll likely be after a very rare item. If you want just performance, it's easy to get your hands on an item that gets the job done equally as well as a more rare item.(Examples: Fissure armor vs. Droknar's armor, 15^50 Crystalline vs. 15^50 Droknar's crafter sword).
jackie
Common misconseption: Guild Wars owns your soul... Wait damn they are right
DJ Josh
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Common misconseption: Guild Wars owns your soul... Wait damn they are right
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Rayne Nightfyre
Sadly, that is a simple truth. 
Misc Merik
Anet had to nerf my soul before they could take it. Apparently it was overpowered.
VGJustice
Misconceptions that I've seen people make (take note, I go to the gameFAQs boards):
1) Guild Wars is/isn't an MMORPG
Boy, this one gets fun. On the one hand, it isn't an MMO as every area is instanced, and even towns are limited to the number of people that can be in each district. On the other hand, how often can you play with people living in different countries at the same time? If you go to the International districts, you can team up with people from every country in the world at the same time. You could, in theory, chat to every single player in the whole game that's online at the same time you are.
I honestly think that this one comes down to personal belief, but maybe I'm just crazy?
2) Gold weapons give better damage than a similar Purple/Blue/White weapon, and that's why they are worth more. (taken from the GameFAQs boards, where this was imediatly put to rest)
I have never in my life heard a more crazy statement. This actually made me laugh out loud. Gold weapons are worth more because of a few reasons. Mostly, the mods on the weapons will generally be higher than a similar non-gold weapon, and a lot of it is bling value. But, that's it.
3) Such-and-such class is worthless in PvP/PvE
In my experience, people who say this have no earthly idea what they are talking about, and generally spend too much time in one side or the other. Every class combination has something to offer to both PvP and PvE. It may just take some effort to find what their role really is, and put them into the right place.
4) I don't have enough gold to do what I need to do. (In reference to just playing the PvE content of the game, not farming)
Heh. I was playing with my Monk, and for the first time I beat Thunderhead Keep with her, I was using an Ascalon Quest Reward staff, Droknar's Forge tattoos (800g each), a collector's head tattoo (I found the 5 things I needed for the trade), and Minor Runes. The only reason I had to do it twice was because I forgot to reinfuse my armor, and even then I was able to survive direct hits with Spectral Agony. This assumption is totally baseless. The only reason that people think that Money = Good Character is because they see the prices for weapons in Ascalon and Lion's Arch, and never learn how useful the stuff that's just GIVEN to you really is. It's a shame, really.
5) Sundering is a good mod.
No, it really REALLY isn't.
6) Vampiric is a bad mod.
See above.
I think every other minor misconception has already been noted. Probably not, but whatever.
1) Guild Wars is/isn't an MMORPG
Boy, this one gets fun. On the one hand, it isn't an MMO as every area is instanced, and even towns are limited to the number of people that can be in each district. On the other hand, how often can you play with people living in different countries at the same time? If you go to the International districts, you can team up with people from every country in the world at the same time. You could, in theory, chat to every single player in the whole game that's online at the same time you are.
I honestly think that this one comes down to personal belief, but maybe I'm just crazy?
2) Gold weapons give better damage than a similar Purple/Blue/White weapon, and that's why they are worth more. (taken from the GameFAQs boards, where this was imediatly put to rest)
I have never in my life heard a more crazy statement. This actually made me laugh out loud. Gold weapons are worth more because of a few reasons. Mostly, the mods on the weapons will generally be higher than a similar non-gold weapon, and a lot of it is bling value. But, that's it.
3) Such-and-such class is worthless in PvP/PvE
In my experience, people who say this have no earthly idea what they are talking about, and generally spend too much time in one side or the other. Every class combination has something to offer to both PvP and PvE. It may just take some effort to find what their role really is, and put them into the right place.
4) I don't have enough gold to do what I need to do. (In reference to just playing the PvE content of the game, not farming)
Heh. I was playing with my Monk, and for the first time I beat Thunderhead Keep with her, I was using an Ascalon Quest Reward staff, Droknar's Forge tattoos (800g each), a collector's head tattoo (I found the 5 things I needed for the trade), and Minor Runes. The only reason I had to do it twice was because I forgot to reinfuse my armor, and even then I was able to survive direct hits with Spectral Agony. This assumption is totally baseless. The only reason that people think that Money = Good Character is because they see the prices for weapons in Ascalon and Lion's Arch, and never learn how useful the stuff that's just GIVEN to you really is. It's a shame, really.
5) Sundering is a good mod.
No, it really REALLY isn't.
6) Vampiric is a bad mod.
See above.
I think every other minor misconception has already been noted. Probably not, but whatever.
d4nowar
Flagrunning isn't important. - If you say that maybe concider why you are in a rank 2000+ guild...
Two boon prot backline with blood ritual and OoB is the best monk setup you could possibly have. - Same as before.
Yes I've actually heard both of those...
Two boon prot backline with blood ritual and OoB is the best monk setup you could possibly have. - Same as before.
Yes I've actually heard both of those...
The Renegade Healer
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d4nowar
Runes stack with each other. - Just dead wrong.
VGJustice
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Runes stack with each other. - Just dead wrong.
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Hunter Sharparrow
ah that reminds me.
The rune of absorbtion stacks with the absorbtion on certain armor....no.
The absorbtion on certain armor stacks with itself....no.
The absorbtion on certain armor only works if you have the whole set....no.
If someone has only one part of their body covered with armor that has absorbtion as part of the bonus or an absorbtion rune put on that piece then it only works if that piece is hit....no and no.
The "non-stacking" is only if you put a rune on a piece of armor that has the same bonus as the rune(eg. putting absorbtion on knights boots won't stack but puting the absorbtion on plate gloves and wearing knights boots they will stack)....no.
I've heard that the absorbtion on certain armor works against elemental damage as well as physical while the rune only works against physical. I don't think this is true but I don't know for sure. Also that the absorbtion on say droks ascalon or knights is equal to a major absorbtion so unless you can buy or find a superior any other absorbtion on your armor would be a waste of space and money. Again, just heard not sure if it's true.
The rune of absorbtion stacks with the absorbtion on certain armor....no.
The absorbtion on certain armor stacks with itself....no.
The absorbtion on certain armor only works if you have the whole set....no.
If someone has only one part of their body covered with armor that has absorbtion as part of the bonus or an absorbtion rune put on that piece then it only works if that piece is hit....no and no.
The "non-stacking" is only if you put a rune on a piece of armor that has the same bonus as the rune(eg. putting absorbtion on knights boots won't stack but puting the absorbtion on plate gloves and wearing knights boots they will stack)....no.
I've heard that the absorbtion on certain armor works against elemental damage as well as physical while the rune only works against physical. I don't think this is true but I don't know for sure. Also that the absorbtion on say droks ascalon or knights is equal to a major absorbtion so unless you can buy or find a superior any other absorbtion on your armor would be a waste of space and money. Again, just heard not sure if it's true.
DJ Josh
non-stacking=2 runes of the same type do not stack.e.g.you can't get 28 death magic from having 5 superior death runes equiped.and sup abs does stack with ascalon/knights,at least it does for me(mine is equiped on my ascalon boots).