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Teh Mighty Warrior

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2006

W/E

19 Apr 2006 at 00:00 - 1

As we all know, the price of Sigils has been falling for some time now. I remember when they were 48k+...now, I've seen them at 15k

. I, however, think that the price of sigils is going to rise, when Factions comes out. Guild leaders will rush to purchase the new halls, and will buy sigils from the trader. This is great news, since I have had 7 sigils sitting in the dust for quite some time now. How high do you think the price will rise? I, for one, hope to see it around 35k again.

Winterclaw

Wark!!!

Join Date: May 2005

Florida

W/

19 Apr 2006 at 00:05 - 2

Sigils are better low, and I remember them when they were at least 60-70K.

Konrow

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

NY, New York

Warlords of Earth [WAR]

19 Apr 2006 at 00:07 - 3

everyone and their mom already has guild hall or is in a guild that has one. and then everyone also had farmers to get money therefore the price won't matter. plus why should having a nice guild-hangout cost so much?

Teh Mighty Warrior

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2006

W/E

19 Apr 2006 at 00:14 - 4

So what's the point of winning halls if you only get 15k from sigils. Maybe you get a lucky drop here and there, but for the most part...

MelechRic

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

RA

[ODIN]

N/Mo

19 Apr 2006 at 00:16 - 5

Quote:

Originally Posted by Teh Mighty Warrior

So what's the point of winning halls if you only get 15k from sigils. Maybe you get a lucky drop here and there, but for the most part...

Maybe the point of winning is to have fun and a sense of accomplishment. You also get a decent amount of faction and some other nice drops.

Lampshade

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

USA

Xen of Onslaught

19 Apr 2006 at 00:17 - 6

ONLY 15K? I'm a PvP'er and thats like hitting the lotto.

Gmr Leon

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

19 Apr 2006 at 00:19 - 7

Where do you go to find them as drops?

Konrow

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

NY, New York

Warlords of Earth [WAR]

19 Apr 2006 at 00:21 - 8

Quote:

Originally Posted by GmrLeon

Where do you go to find them as drops?

you have to win halls

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

19 Apr 2006 at 00:23 - 9

Quote:

Originally Posted by Teh Mighty Warrior

So what's the point of winning halls if you only get 15k from sigils. Maybe you get a lucky drop here and there, but for the most part...

i just bought another for 16.5k

the days of sigel shortages are long over and too many are just like you holding sigils and watching the price drop until they cant stand it and sell some of them.

defrule

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2005

Volcano Insurance Salesmen [scam]

19 Apr 2006 at 00:25 - 10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Teh Mighty Warrior

So what's the point of winning halls if you only get 15k from sigils. Maybe you get a lucky drop here and there, but for the most part...

It's for fame not cash. The item drops are just a bonus.

Gmr Leon

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

19 Apr 2006 at 00:26 - 11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Konrow

you have to win halls

Halls=Heroes' Ascent,right?

TheMosesPHD

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2006

Oregon

Mo Mo Patty Blinks [MoMo]

R/

19 Apr 2006 at 00:29 - 12

Quote:

Originally Posted by GmrLeon

Halls=Heroes' Ascent,right?

correct

Fungus Amongus

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare] | [Rare] Alliance

19 Apr 2006 at 00:30 - 13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Konrow

plus why should having a nice guild-hangout cost so much?

I thought the same thing when I bought a guild hall for ~45K. My guild consisted of three people - me, myself, and I. I disbanded my one man band to join Fifteen Over Fifty. I am now part of a really cool guild that was about 8-10 people when I joined. I wasn't asked for a single gp when we decided on what hall to buy, but I would have been more than happy to shell out a few K towards the purchase (good thing because I had to swallow the ~45K loss of the sigil I bought for my own hall).

If you have a decent guild of five or more people, then the price isn't bad at all for a nice place to hang out and chat with freinds. One of the most valuable bonuses is the spam free chat.

eternal pho

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

The Licious Fame Farmers {TLG}

W/E

19 Apr 2006 at 00:32 - 14

do u HoH just for sigils to make money? if u really want money then pve for it?

Age

Hall Hero

Join Date: Jul 2005

California Canada/BC

STG Administrator

Mo/

19 Apr 2006 at 00:47 - 15

What is so upsetting of this I wished sup. runes would do the same thing come way down.I remember when Sigils were 90K back around the time the game came out and some even want to sell theirs guilds.

Cador

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Relax Its Just A [GAME]

R/E

19 Apr 2006 at 00:50 - 16

I was with a 5-10 man guild as leader mostly ukers and i was the farthest in game play in hte beggining, i asked for 2k a peice or more this was when sigils were 40k. so it took about a solid month or two and would of taken doiuble that if i hadnt gotten a great drop which was a perfect FDS of fortitude, sold it for 60k and buoght a hall

. Anyways im sitting on 5-10 sigils right about now i wont disclose exact number

leprekan

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Posers and Wannabes [nubs]

W/E

19 Apr 2006 at 01:39 - 17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Teh Mighty Warrior

So what's the point of winning halls if you only get 15k from sigils. Maybe you get a lucky drop here and there, but for the most part...

Why many of us that are rank 10/11 don't hoh anymore. Anet needs to throw us a new map or two in HA. No money and same maps a few hundred times does not inspire me to HA. I remember when sigils were auctioned in LA starting at 100k

Konrow

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

NY, New York

Warlords of Earth [WAR]

19 Apr 2006 at 01:48 - 18

Quote:

Originally Posted by leprekan

Why many of us that are rank 10/11 don't hoh anymore. Anet needs to throw us a new map or two in HA. No money and same maps a few hundred times does not inspire me to HA. I remember when sigils were auctioned in LA starting at 100k

ah those were the days lol. my friend made so much moeny which meant i got some too. yea if they were still as pricey as back then, all the people would turn to farming and then people would complain about that

Pillz_veritas

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Fun Loving Gamers

R/Mo

19 Apr 2006 at 02:24 - 19

well with the price for each NPC you want in your hall being 1 sigil a month you can expect the price to go up to the 50k range.... I got 20 ^_^

Fluffyx

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Courtney PantsuLand

Death By Teazu [TEA]

W/Mo

19 Apr 2006 at 02:48 - 20

I'm glad how the price has dropped, the first one I bought was in the upper 50k. The next one was aroudn 25k. And now with this low price I can pretty much change our hall whenever I feel like it. Much easier for new guilds to get halls which is good as well

Mimi Miyagi

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Port Orchard, WA

The Second Foundation: [TSF]

19 Apr 2006 at 05:26 - 21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pillz_veritas

well with the price for each NPC you want in your hall being 1 sigil a month you can expect the price to go up to the 50k range.... I got 20 ^_^

And where, pray tell, did you read that sigils will be the cost for maintaining NPCs in a GH? Or you're just making things up?

Prices of sigils may raise slightly, but they will NEVER spike as high as they did before ANet retooled the market and increase the sigil drops.

But as everything else, the prices will continue to fall after the intiial rush with factions release. People will be more concerned with farming all the new items and skills to worry about new guild halls.

Makkert

Black Beast of Aarrrrgghh

Join Date: May 2005

The Netherlands

The Biggyverse [PLEB] // Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

19 Apr 2006 at 08:33 - 22

The funny thing is that your guildhall now costs as much as your 15k shoes...

Burton2000

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

A cardboard box in England

Men Of Substance [YMCA]

Mo/Me

19 Apr 2006 at 09:47 - 23

Yeah back in the day of sigils costing 100k from trader and my guild saved up for our first hall.We got it cheap from HA international what a joyous occation it was.I remember after every win we'd have a party in the jacuzzi that is in Hunters isle.

thelessa

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

Texas

Purple Puzycats

R/Mo

19 Apr 2006 at 11:41 - 24

I remember seeing them to 99K and thinking I was never going to get one. Bought mine when they were 20K.

Silent Kitty

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

Netherlands

[TYW] "The Young World"

A/Me

19 Apr 2006 at 11:45 - 25

Bought mine for 17K, and than nuked the place, because I didn't like the name of it. After that I rebuilt the place again for 18K, with the same name because I am crazy

Lykan

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

StP

R/

19 Apr 2006 at 12:39 - 26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pillz_veritas

well with the price for each NPC you want in your hall being 1 sigil a month you can expect the price to go up to the 50k range.... I got 20 ^_^

Whats that?

torquemada

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2006

guildless

19 Apr 2006 at 12:52 - 27

Just formed a new guild - we have high hopes of actually earning our Sigil - ah, the delusions of grandeur!

Olfin Bedwere

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

Stillwater, Oklahoma

W/Mo

19 Apr 2006 at 15:17 - 28

After read this thread I went and checked the Sigil trader and they were selling for 17k, went ot LA and bought one for 13k. I had quit paying attention to the cost as I never thought I`d have enough to afford one. Our "guild" consists of me and a friend who made the guild when he got the game for reasons I haven`t figured out.

Viruzzz

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

19 Apr 2006 at 15:18 - 29

you realise that every 10-15 minutes (i'm not sure exactly how long you have to wait between the battles) sigils drop in HoH, and the demand for them in the beginning was high due to the relative low supply, but a guildhall is permanent, so now there is little demand for them

linh

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Mo/

19 Apr 2006 at 15:24 - 30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Teh Mighty Warrior

So what's the point of winning halls if you only get 15k from sigils. Maybe you get a lucky drop here and there, but for the most part...

Playing HOH for rare items and sigils has ruined the meaning of winning it. Thats why most top guilds play GVG now, it is also higher level.

eudas

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

Tx, USA

The Infinite Monkeys [TYPE]

W/

19 Apr 2006 at 17:07 - 31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pillz_veritas

well with the price for each NPC you want in your hall being 1 sigil a month you can expect the price to go up to the 50k range.... I got 20 ^_^

could you provide a link or direct me to more information about this? i'm interested in information about NPC's in the guild halls, and startup/maintenance costs for such.

eudas

Haggard

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

Urmston, Manchester, UK

Greener Pastures [DVDF]

W/Rt

19 Apr 2006 at 17:14 - 32

Yup, the first OWEL guild hall was 90k and took us a month to save up for. Now I could get one from half an hour of farming.. I suppose its kind of better this way, but having a hall doesnt fell like an accomplishment anymore

Mimi Miyagi

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Port Orchard, WA

The Second Foundation: [TSF]

19 Apr 2006 at 19:22 - 33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Haggard

Yup, the first OWEL guild hall was 90k and took us a month to save up for. Now I could get one from half an hour of farming.. I suppose its kind of better this way, but having a hall doesnt fell like an accomplishment anymore

That's because it's not, and I doubt it ever should've been. The only reason why Sigils cost so much 8 months ago was simply greed. It wasn't because you "earned" it, but due to poor supplies, and insanely greedy players. The actual # of players that won a Sigil via HoH was miniscule compared to the # of players playing GW. HoH was being held by a small # of teams for hours at a time, the players hoarded their Sigils, and as time crawled on, and more and more people started playing GW and wanted to join/start a guild, the costs of Sigils skyrocketed.

Yet isn't the GH the core of GW, honestly? If guilds are supposed to be at war, having a guild hall is the centerpiece of actually making that happen. You couldn't GvG without one. Until ANet fixed the Sigil market, things were just out of control. Paying 100K PLUS 5-7 gold unIDed items for a GH? That was nuts.

I know guys that still have accounts full of Sigils - they should've sold them when they were at 70-80K each. Now they are not worth much more than a couple of ectos and take up valuable storage space. IMO Sigils should be around 10-20K each, simply to make buying a GH taking a tad more effort than designing a cape, but just expensive enough where people don't just buy them on a whim.

EternalTempest

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

United States

Dark Side Ofthe Moon [DSM]

E/

19 Apr 2006 at 21:40 - 34

I expect a new "spike" when they start adding the new stuff to the guild halls - I can see a farmer who wants "guild storage" of the guild of one.

I'm all for the low prices. The culture has changed where a guildhall was a high status symbol.

Teh Mighty Warrior

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2006

W/E

19 Apr 2006 at 21:59 - 35

The point is, PvEers have a way to make their money, we don't. From what I have heard about pve, you can get 40k in a matter of hours. The only way for PvPers to make money is from sigils. 15k is NOTHING. I'm not asking for the price to jump to 90k+ again. But 25-30k would be nice, it would actually be worth winning halls.

Mustache Mayhem

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

BEN

R/N

19 Apr 2006 at 22:20 - 36

remember bought the first hall for 80k.. was around last april- but yeah winning halls for sigils should be better- it's down to 15k nowdays?

??Evan??

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

Tombs

In Soviet Russia Altar Caps You [CCCP]/Ruthless Amazons [ego]

W/E

19 Apr 2006 at 22:33 - 37

Quote:

Originally Posted by linhlh

Playing HOH for rare items and sigils has ruined the meaning of winning it. Thats why most top guilds play GVG now, it is also higher level.

no , most people stopped playing tombs because of IWAY. I have about 30 sigils sitting on one of my characters because of the low price. The rare items and sigils are earned and it does not ruin the meaning of anything, tombs is a tournament and win you win a tournament you get a prize. correct?

makosi

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

"Pre-nerf" is incorrect. It's pre-buff.

Requirement Begins With R [notQ]

Me/

19 Apr 2006 at 22:33 - 38

Didn't Anet change the HoH chest so that it reveals 3 instead of 1? From that, the amount of sigils in the economy will treble and the price will be divided in to 3.

<I know thats an obvious statement but nobody has mentioned it yet>

UltimaXtreme

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2005

19 Apr 2006 at 22:37 - 39

i got like 50 sigils left over from like 5 months ago x.x hopefully it goes up >:^D

??Evan??

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

Tombs

In Soviet Russia Altar Caps You [CCCP]/Ruthless Amazons [ego]

W/E

19 Apr 2006 at 22:37 - 40

Quote:

Originally Posted by makosi

Didn't Anet change the HoH chest so that it reveals 3 instead of 1? From that, the amount of sigils in the economy will treble and the price will be divided in to 3.

<I know thats an obvious statement but nobody has mentioned it yet>

Yes, they changed that very early in the game. IMO when storage and that kind of stuff comes out for guild halls it should cost more sigils to add them to your guild hall. Example: 5 sigils for a storage 8 sigils for a preist of balthazar 10 sigils for a skill trainer