Math Question

WiLdFiRe111

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

Melbourne, Australia

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19 Apr 2006 at 08:20 - 1
I was wondering, if I had 9 or less max health and I had Protective Spirit, would I take 0 or 1 damage each attack? Ie, does damage round up or down? Thanks.

Makkert

Makkert

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19 Apr 2006 at 08:26 - 2
I believe the answer is '1 damage'. I remember having a 55 monk that after dp had 1 hp, and he died taking 1 damage.

widowdaballa

widowdaballa

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TeXaS

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19 Apr 2006 at 08:35 - 3
Yeah, even if you could get 10 hp, you take 1 dmg. I'm not totally sure about this, but yesterday i was 55ing, and died, and came up with a way to get 11 hp, I think i kept my runes on, but carried a +XXhp offhand

WiLdFiRe111

Frost Gate Guardian

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19 Apr 2006 at 08:38 - 4
Yep, I just tried this Thanks everyone, it would have been awesome just to have used PS.

brokenkey

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19 Apr 2006 at 09:30 - 5
Similarly, with enchantment mods (eg enchantments last 17% longer), are these accurate to the 100ths of a second, or are the rounded up or down to the nearest second?

Eg PS lasting 21 seconds, add in a 17% mod =24.57s or 25s or 25s ? If it rounds up, then there's no difference between a +17% mod and a +19% mod.

Ishmaeel

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

19 Apr 2006 at 09:59 - 6
Quote:
Originally Posted by brokenkey
Similarly, with enchantment mods (eg enchantments last 17% longer), are these accurate to the 100ths of a second, or are the rounded up or down to the nearest second?

Eg PS lasting 21 seconds, add in a 17% mod =24.57s or 25s or 25s ? If it rounds up, then there's no difference between a +17% mod and a +19% mod.
Damage is rounded but durations are not (Or at least they have a higher precision). There are skills with 3/4 second activation, remember.

Metanoia

Metanoia

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19 Apr 2006 at 10:12 - 7
I'm pretty sure enchantment durations are rounded to the nearest integer. Don't quote me on that though, I could be mis-remembering things.

fenix

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19 Apr 2006 at 12:20 - 8
At 17 HP when 55ing, I was taking 1 dmg per hit with Prot Spirit, so I have no idea how they round in GW....

Former Ruling

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R/

19 Apr 2006 at 12:51 - 9
At 8 HP (55 with DP) you take 1 dmg >_<

meerkats

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2005

19 Apr 2006 at 12:59 - 10
the best health to have using prot spirit is 19hp you will still take one damage each hit.

Rayne Nightfyre

Rayne Nightfyre

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19 Apr 2006 at 12:59 - 11
It would be nice to know their standards on rounding, I have always wondered this also.
With Prot Spirit, it rounds down to the nearest 10. Examples...
  • 50-59 HP= 5 damage.
  • 40-49 HP= 4 damage.
  • 30-39 HP= 3 damage.
  • 20-29 HP= 2 damage.
  • 1-19 HP= 1 damage.
  • 0 HP = dead.

I believe skills' durations are rounded down to the nearest whole second, and skills' casting times down to the nearest quarter-second (with Fast Casting). That's not confirmed, it's just what I believe is true and correct me if I'm wrong.

Ishmaeel

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

19 Apr 2006 at 13:33 - 12
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rayne Nightfyre
I believe skills' durations are rounded down to the nearest whole second, and skills' casting times down to the nearest quarter-second (with Fast Casting). That's not confirmed, it's just what I believe is true and correct me if I'm wrong.
A quarter-second precision for time rounding sounds about logical but perhaps they went as far as 1/8 or 1/16 seconds.

One thing: I have made some experiments with Energizing Wind and Quickening Zephyr and skill durations did not seem to be rounded down to integers. Granted, it's hard for a human being to perceive small fractions of seconds but after repeated timings, you can at least feel that something seems to take just a bit longer than 19 seconds but not exactly 20 seconds either.

So, I am pretty sure both activation (casting) and duration times have more precision than whole seconds.

Edit: Meh, I was talking, of course, about the skill recharge times while I was babbling on above. Durations are something else entirely. That said, I still have no reason to believe that durations would be rounded down while activation and recharge times appear to be fractional.

meerkats

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2005

19 Apr 2006 at 14:34 - 13
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rayne Nightfyre
  • 50-59 HP= 5 damage.
  • 40-49 HP= 4 damage.
  • 30-39 HP= 3 damage.
  • 20-29 HP= 2 damage.
  • 1-19 HP= 1 damage.
  • 0 HP = dead.
If you only have one health point you will die immediately if you get hit, even if you have +10 health regen and prot bond on. but yes it still is only 1 dmg.

Viruzzz

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

19 Apr 2006 at 15:06 - 14
Quote:
Originally Posted by talon
At 17 HP when 55ing, I was taking 1 dmg per hit with Prot Spirit, so I have no idea how they round in GW....
quite simple..
max hp/10 rounded down
but with a minimum of 1 damage

also, i think some skills go through prot spirit because they are not considered "damage" but rather "lose health"

Ishmaeel

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

19 Apr 2006 at 15:10 - 15
Quote:
Originally Posted by Viruzzz
...i think some skills go through prot spirit because they are not considered "damage" but rather "lose health"
You are right. Lifestealing skills are not affected by the PS at all. The same is true for degens caused by poison, bleeding and hexes.

Viruzzz

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

19 Apr 2006 at 15:15 - 16
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ishmaeel
You are right. Lifestealing skills are not affected by the PS at all. The same is true for degens caused by poison, bleeding and hexes.
well its obvious that degen is not affected. if it was you wouldn't be able to use mending and healing breeze with PS, also its the easiest way besides vamp skills to kill a 55 monk in arena

Ishmaeel

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19 Apr 2006 at 15:52 - 17
Quote:
Originally Posted by Viruzzz
well its obvious...
Right. Just added that last bit for the sake of completeness.

TheArrow

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19 Apr 2006 at 16:08 - 18
IIRC, Protective Spirit doensn't work if you have less than 5 health. It's been a while since I've tried to get just under that so I don't really remember.

Haggard

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19 Apr 2006 at 17:16 - 19
Prot spirit rounds down, but cant round down to 0, only 1. 'Perfect 55 health' is 19 for this reason.