I bought factions and combined the accounts. I have 2 new character slots.
I make a new character.
Where does the new character start? Tyria or Cantha?
Where do new characters start? Proph+Factions = ?
Fr_3_aK
Rex the Unloving
thats a good question, most likely cantha though, this is a very good question.
Eclair
You get to select whether to make a Cantha character or a Prophecies Character on creation.
Naqser
The BIG question though is, will you be able to start in Tyria with the 2 new proffesions? Like "I want to complete the Prophesies campaign with my new uber-ass-kicking assassin, and also start with it in the pre-ascalon part"
Of course Anet would have to put in new proffesion-only quest givers that reward you with new skills, but that isn't so hard, is it?
Of course Anet would have to put in new proffesion-only quest givers that reward you with new skills, but that isn't so hard, is it?
Fr_3_aK
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You get to select whether to make a Cantha character or a Prophecies Character on creation.
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sarcasteak
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Hella Good
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Originally Posted by Fr_3_aK
Any links to official statements to confirm this?
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I know you can travel back and forth regardless of your profession but I'm postive you can't do pre with Assa/Rts. Also since neither profession is core, the skills are Factions only, meaning you will not be able to obtain them as quest rewards from Prophecies. You can still do missions and such tho.
PvP char always start in GToBalthazar.
Snowman
Well, when you create a NEW character it gives you the option of chosing a Factions campaign or Prophecies Campaign!
Thats how it basically worked on the FPE, and they would start at the appropriate starting postions. (Pre-searing / Market place)
My question however is....
When your lvl 20 Phrophecies Charachter goes to cantha I assume that it will start at the starting place... but... and this is the important bit..
When your Factions character goes to Tyria, where will it land??.. Lions Arch?..
If it lands at lions arch then its gona be a bit dumb to have to travel BACKWARDS to ascalon!!..
Thats how it basically worked on the FPE, and they would start at the appropriate starting postions. (Pre-searing / Market place)
My question however is....
When your lvl 20 Phrophecies Charachter goes to cantha I assume that it will start at the starting place... but... and this is the important bit..
When your Factions character goes to Tyria, where will it land??.. Lions Arch?..
If it lands at lions arch then its gona be a bit dumb to have to travel BACKWARDS to ascalon!!..
Laibeus Lord
This was explained in the Gaile logs and during FPE.
Core Classes can both start in Tyria or Cantha
Faction-exclusive classes can only start in Cantha.
When creating a new character, RP or PvP, you get to select if you want to start in Prophecies campaign or Factions campaign.
If you choose Prophecies campaign, you can choose from the 6 core classes.
If you choose Factions campaign, you can choose from 8 classes, 6 core classes and the 2 new classes.
By this system, they can easily add new classes without patching the 'older' campaign and include the new classes. Again, the 2 new classes must not become available in the 'old' campaign character creation menu. (Unless they want to take the harder path in programming, it is still possible.)
You can expect come Campaign 3, if they will add a new class. The C3-classes can only be created in C3. But the C1 and C2 classes can be created in C3. OR only the core classes can be created in C3 <-- I think this one is more likely to happen, since they must keep the "selling value" of C2 up. Offering the "C2 selling value" to C3 will affect the sales of C2.
In other words, Marketing.
Now I can be wrong come final. But with the explanations, FPE and Gaile logs (and Jeff interviews as well), C2 classes can't be created in Prophecies campaign.
Core Classes can both start in Tyria or Cantha
Faction-exclusive classes can only start in Cantha.
When creating a new character, RP or PvP, you get to select if you want to start in Prophecies campaign or Factions campaign.
If you choose Prophecies campaign, you can choose from the 6 core classes.
If you choose Factions campaign, you can choose from 8 classes, 6 core classes and the 2 new classes.
By this system, they can easily add new classes without patching the 'older' campaign and include the new classes. Again, the 2 new classes must not become available in the 'old' campaign character creation menu. (Unless they want to take the harder path in programming, it is still possible.)
You can expect come Campaign 3, if they will add a new class. The C3-classes can only be created in C3. But the C1 and C2 classes can be created in C3. OR only the core classes can be created in C3 <-- I think this one is more likely to happen, since they must keep the "selling value" of C2 up. Offering the "C2 selling value" to C3 will affect the sales of C2.
In other words, Marketing.
Now I can be wrong come final. But with the explanations, FPE and Gaile logs (and Jeff interviews as well), C2 classes can't be created in Prophecies campaign.
Thallandor
Thats correct, Assassin and Ritualist primarys cant be created in GWP even if you link both chapters but can go to Tyria after they ascended and perfom all the skill quest as per normal. This exactually promotes linking since by doing those skill quest you will be able to get most skills for another secondary class than your original which you would otherwise have to buy if unlinked.
Laibeus Lord
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Well, when you create a NEW character it gives you the option of chosing a Factions campaign or Prophecies Campaign!
Thats how it basically worked on the FPE, and they would start at the appropriate starting postions. (Pre-searing / Market place) My question however is.... When your lvl 20 Phrophecies Charachter goes to cantha I assume that it will start at the starting place... but... and this is the important bit.. When your Factions character goes to Tyria, where will it land??.. Lions Arch?.. If it lands at lions arch then its gona be a bit dumb to have to travel BACKWARDS to ascalon!!.. |
Whatever level Prophecies Character can go to Cantha once it reach Lion's Arch (20% of the Prophecies Campaign). S/he will land on Kainen something town which is 20% of the Factions Campaign, not the training grounds for newbie chars.
Characters created in Cantha will start in the training grounds. Travel to kainen something village (20% of Factions Campaign) and you can go to Tyria via Lion's Arch which is 20% of Prophecies Campaign.
That's how it is ^_^
It isn't dumb, think "Role-Playing" or "Storyline".
Your Factions character is a citizen of Cantha-nation in Cantha-continent.
Your Prophecies character is a citizen of Ascalon in Tyria.
Gets?
^_^
Hanok Odbrook
I was wondering the same thing as well, but if the A and Rt can only start in Cantha, what's the incentive to even bring them to Tyria aside from showing off your linked account?
Clearly some updating to Prophecies must be done - if only to add the A and Rt skills to trainers and quests, and to add item drops for those professions, so why not just go the whole nine? That would at least encourage more linked accounts, and for new players, encourage the purchase of Prophecies more than just the storyline reason Gaile gave in a previous chat/post. If I was just coming into the game with Factions, I would want more of a reason to buy Prophecies and link my games than just to clear the Chapter 1 map. It's great if you're playing the core professions, but the nature of the game and the character slot issue encourage playing one or two main characters - what if yours are the A and Rt? What real incentive is there to buy Prophecies if there's no real benefit to bringing those characters to Tyria?
Hanok Odbrook
Real Millennium Group Guild
Truth * Knowledge * Peace
Clearly some updating to Prophecies must be done - if only to add the A and Rt skills to trainers and quests, and to add item drops for those professions, so why not just go the whole nine? That would at least encourage more linked accounts, and for new players, encourage the purchase of Prophecies more than just the storyline reason Gaile gave in a previous chat/post. If I was just coming into the game with Factions, I would want more of a reason to buy Prophecies and link my games than just to clear the Chapter 1 map. It's great if you're playing the core professions, but the nature of the game and the character slot issue encourage playing one or two main characters - what if yours are the A and Rt? What real incentive is there to buy Prophecies if there's no real benefit to bringing those characters to Tyria?
Hanok Odbrook
Real Millennium Group Guild
Truth * Knowledge * Peace
GranDeWun
I'm still looking for an answer to the question:
If a lvl 20 Canthan character sails to LA, how can that char move around?
For example, how can that character ever get to Dragon's Lair?
If a lvl 20 Canthan character sails to LA, how can that char move around?
For example, how can that character ever get to Dragon's Lair?
LordDeArnise
That's a good question, and maybe you can ask Gaile and the others about it. My guess is that it's probably not possible, although it would be nice to see how A's and Rt's fare against the Mursaat and Khilbron, or how they would size up in SF, Tombs, or ToA.
GranDeWun
The problem is that the flip side of the question affects ascended GW:P characters who go to Cantha - will they really be able to explore the entire region?
forever
It's already been said many times that GWP characters reaches Cantha at about 20% of the story line, so they can play the rest 80% of the content.
Snowman
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..... and you can go to Tyria via Lion's Arch which is 20% of Prophecies Campaign.
That's how it is ^_^ It isn't dumb, think "Role-Playing" or "Storyline". Gets? ^_^ |
basically a lvl 20 Canthan will travel to Lions Arch is what your saying?
your right 'dumb' is probably the wrong word ... but it will feel...er...weird having to physically run all the way to ascalon, and then do all the main quests BACK to lions arch, dont you think ?
And its not really following a storyline if you do run back to Ascalon then follow the story in order.
But I agree.. it might be even weirder if you traveled from cantha and started at Ascalon.. how would you get to ascalon, there is no seaport... maybe Hot hair balloon ^^
lyra_song
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I think so..
basically a lvl 20 Canthan will travel to Lions Arch is what your saying? your right 'dumb' is probably the wrong word ... but it will feel...er...weird having to physically run all the way to ascalon, and then do all the main quests BACK to lions arch, dont you think ? And its not really following a storyline if you do run back to Ascalon then follow the story in order. But I agree.. it might be even weirder if you traveled from cantha and started at Ascalon.. how would you get to ascalon, there is no seaport... maybe Hot hair balloon ^^ |
with side quests along the way
Snowman
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They will probably have a quest where you have to journey BACK to Ascalon
with side quests along the way |
I never thought of a quest that transports you...
It still want a Hot air baloon!
lyra_song
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YOU are a genius! xD
I never thought of a quest that transports you... It still want a Hot air baloon! |
Loviatar
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It still want a Hot air baloon! |
i STILL want a flying pig and i hereby reserve the name *pigasses* for him.fireball afterburner for fast escape as well
an assassin on pigasses
Dr Ripley
Either that, or when you land in L.A., Ascalon City would be unlocked already for your Canthan character. You'd just have to port there and start the quests like normal...
Mordakai
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What real incentive is there to buy Prophecies if there's no real benefit to bringing those characters to Tyria?
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But any of the core classes will need to get to Prophecy to get access to all the skills.
GranDeWun
Additional quests to get to specific areas sounds plausible - let's hope it's true. Dragon's Lair, currently, can only be reached via the process of Ascending; you can't walk there. So if a Canthan character is ever going to kill all those dragons, it will require a special quest to get there.
(typing + hurry != spelling)
(typing + hurry != spelling)
lyra_song
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Additional quests to get to specific areas sounds plausible - let's hope it's true. Dragon's Lair, currently, can only be reached via the process of Ascending, you can't walk there. So if a Canthan character is ever going to kill all those dragon's. it will require a special quest to get there.
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melonella
The incentive fo Canthan characters to get back to Tyria is beating the 20 missions and getting 20 easy skill point. Thats not so little.
UndeadRoadkill
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Additional quests to get to specific areas sounds plausible - let's hope it's true. Dragon's Lair, currently, can only be reached via the process of Ascending; you can't walk there. So if a Canthan character is ever going to kill all those dragons, it will require a special quest to get there.
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LifeInfusion
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Either that, or when you land in L.A., Ascalon City would be unlocked already for your Canthan character. You'd just have to port there and start the quests like normal...
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rofl
EternalTempest
Side note from the radio interview that's realted to the topic.
C1 character ascended coming to Cantha start 1/5-1/4 of the way in to the content (leaving 4/5-3/4) for C1 to experience.
C1 character ascended coming to Cantha start 1/5-1/4 of the way in to the content (leaving 4/5-3/4) for C1 to experience.
Dove_Song
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C1 character ascended coming to Cantha start 1/5-1/4 of the way in to the content (leaving 4/5-3/4) for C1 to experience. |
In English he means:
If you bring one of your current Characters to Cantha it will Start 1/5 of the way through Cantha chapter....in a town that is Cantha's counterpart to Lion's Arch called "Kaineng Center". We know this as "The Marketplace" from the Preview event. ONLY ACSENDED CHAPTER 1 CHARCATERS CAN TRAVEL TO CANTHA.
If you make a Cantha Character, ASCEND IT, you can travel to Lion's Arch via the "Kaineng Center".
I have no idea if you can start an assasin in Chapter One from the begining Pre-searing.
GranDeWun
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A Canthan character can't do the Ascension trials and get to Dragon's Lair the way Prophecies characters do?
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Lord Osiric
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Thats correct, Assassin and Ritualist primarys cant be created in GWP even if you link both chapters but can go to Tyria after they ascended and perfom all the skill quest as per normal. This exactually promotes linking since by doing those skill quest you will be able to get most skills for another secondary class than your original which you would otherwise have to buy if unlinked.
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Mordakai
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I have no idea if you can start an assasin in Chapter One from the begining Pre-searing.
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Assassins and Ritualists can only go to Cantha after they've ascended.
Snowman
Walking from Lions arch back to ascalon... that will be just, weird!
not only that I can see LA being flooded with
"running to Ascalon 5k"
meh.
not only that I can see LA being flooded with
"running to Ascalon 5k"
meh.
Beat_Go_Stick
Running to Ascalon, 4.5k!!! Show money!! 1/6
ign: I Queue
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EDIT: yes, this was a joke (for those of you getting ready to flame).
ign: I Queue
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EDIT: yes, this was a joke (for those of you getting ready to flame).
TheMosesPHD
Gaile said in her last chitty-chat that you will be able to buy FoW armor for your assassin/ritualist? Not sure but I think that's what she meant here when she said:
Gaile Gray: Fow Armor is FoW armor. I don't see that changing.
Gaile Gray: However, if you mean for Rit and Assassin, then I would assume so.
pigdestroyer
the question is, new characters are going to team up with lvl 20 characters since early missions?
because as said before tyria characters are able to travel to cantha...
how are they gonna balance the enemies for both new chars and lvl 20 chars?
because as said before tyria characters are able to travel to cantha...
how are they gonna balance the enemies for both new chars and lvl 20 chars?
Mordakai
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the question is, new characters are going to team up with lvl 20 characters since early missions?
because as said before tyria characters are able to travel to cantha... how are they gonna balance the enemies for both new chars and lvl 20 chars? |
That's how it will balance out.
JoDiamonds
It makes sense that if you are in Lion's Arch, you can (eventually) do all the quests in Tyria. You can walk nearly everywhere. Of course you can get to Dragon's Lair -- you ascend to do so. You jump into the middle of the Prophecies storyline. Why would someone think it works otherwise? Did ANet ever imply that you wouldn't be able to do quests or missions on other continents just because you started elsewhere?
UndeadRoadkill
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"Re-Ascended Characters"? Maybe, but that would be odd.
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At any rate, I don't see a reason why Canthan characters would be locked out of doing the ascension missions, I don't know why people have been assuming this.