LA d1 traders

fgarvin

fgarvin

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2005

wsmcasey.....how does you dog maintain vacuum with his tail sticking out of his suit?

EDIT: Should have said "maintain pressure" but I'm dumb...

wsmcasey

wsmcasey

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Right behind you.

HeRo

W/Rt

Quote:
Originally Posted by fgarvin
wsmcasey.....how does you dog maintain vacuum with his tail sticking out of his suit?

Thanks for asking!

I shaved the base of his tail, and super glued a rubber washer to the base.

Uzul

Uzul

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Arctic Tundra

Pints N Quarts [PsQs]

Quote:
Originally Posted by kvndoom
Everyone? Nah, I think people who truly earned that gold are going to be more savvy in spending it. It took a LONG time for me to talk myself into buying Victo's shield. And even then I district-hopped in Tombs and LA until I got the absolute best deal I could find at the time.

Let's consider this: 1) several recent massive crackdowns on botters and sweatshoppers. Much harder for them to farm the gold they need.

2) people still buy gold off ebay, that will never change until Anet tells ebay to make them stop

3) people with tons of ebay gold don't value it because they didn't earn it, so they're quick to pay insane amounts of gold for weapons / upgrades

4) they buy these ludicrously expensive items from (guess who?) the botters and sweatshoppers

5) botters and sweatshoppers pool their collected gold, put it up for sale on ebay, repeat the viscious cycle. I have no doubt that they have a ton of mule accounts with a nearly infinite supply of perfect upgrades stashed away that they are now tapping into because of the recent nerfs and bans. How many +30 pommels and 10/10 Sundering Hafts do you think a full sweatshop, running chests, farming Griffons, and clearing UW 24/7 for almost an entire year could have in storage? Hmmmm... You gotta remember, these are businesspeople; WE are gamers. Their approach is different.
this is exactly what is happening. thanks for saving me a lot of typework...

Count to Potato

Count to Potato

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2006

Imagination Land

I Swear She Was Eighteen [Gwen]

W/

Another Black Friday is coming, inflation is too high 1k in like beta is like 10k now

Cybah

Cybah

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

Europe

Guardians Of Eternal Sands [GoeS]

W/

what I also hate is:

me: "wts 10% furious axe haft = 45k"

guy: "I buy"

me: "ok storage"

guy comes to storage, trade window got opened.

I put 10% furious on it.

guy: "how much?"

me: "I wrote 45k..."

guy: "nvm" and closes window.

fgarvin

fgarvin

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by wsmcasey
Thanks for asking!

I shaved the base of his tail, and super glued a rubber washer to the base.
I've sooo got the give that a try.

|pyro|

|pyro|

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

Me/

One stupi thing is when you ask them to offer a pric for let say high end item, valuable mods, they say 5k, yo usay be realisitc they spam you the 5k price, or you say 50k for that mod he say no ty, i say offer me your price, he nvm.

FFW

FFW

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Netherlands

I get kicked to much out of guilds to keep this up to date

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cybah
what I also hate is:

me: "wts 10% furious axe haft = 45k"

guy: "I buy"

me: "ok storage"

guy comes to storage, trade window got opened.

I put 10% furious on it.

guy: "how much?"

me: "I wrote 45k..."

guy: "nvm" and closes window.

This is one of the reasons I stopped with trading.......

Mr_T_bot

Mr_T_bot

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr Strangelove
Doesn't it seem like buy low sell high had gone a bit too far? Are these people actually managing to sell anything?
As long as this game has no auction house (or other consolidated way of selling player-acquired things across cities, districts and worlds) people will continue to make money like this.

Clone

Clone

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

I think this is just another thread of how screwed up this economy has gotten in the absence of an auction house. If only Anet would get the hint.

supaet

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cybah
what I also hate is:

me: "wts 10% furious axe haft = 45k"

guy: "I buy"

me: "ok storage"

guy comes to storage, trade window got opened.

I put 10% furious on it.

guy: "how much?"

me: "I wrote 45k..."

guy: "nvm" and closes window.
LOL, try to lower the price

Former Ruling

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Cedartown, Georgia

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by supaet
LOL, try to lower the price
The point is, The person clearly knew what he wanted for the mod, and then acted retarded when it came to buying it.

I hate:
1) When people ask to see the most random stuff, ALL THE TIME. I could be selling a Vamp Bowstring, and Literally before I get an offer I'll have 20 people Ask to SEE the mod then say they don't want it. WTF IS THIS It isn't like a mod has a skin or anything that can be different

2) When someone is spamming "W.T.S +30 Pommel 100k+XX Ectos" in all chat, then you say "WTS +30 Pommel", that same person that is spamming at 100+XX ectos PMs you and offers you like 50k for it... These got to be foreign retarded sweatshop workers...

Extra Story:
One time I was looking for one of the stupid little 1k SF greens, so I went to Warcamp and said "WTB [whatever it was]" and i get PMs like "10k", "9k, firm price", etc, So just to test how stupid these guys were I started saying "WTB [whatever it was], 10k" and you know, some of them were retarded enough to raise the price and say stuff like "15k and its yours".

Theus

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

W/Mo

I make it a point to sell most rares for several k less than their worth.

I don't know about you,but the fact that I can gain 50x the amount of gold I can get from the Merchant i'm quite content at selling it at that price.

Its quite sad though,a game as recent as this using a prehistoric form of trading.

Sereng Amaranth

Sereng Amaranth

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Amazon Basin [AB]

Quote:
Originally Posted by zeno
know exactly wot you mean. I got a purple axe drop once with decent mods, put up msg willing to sale it for 1k. Immediately got a buyer. Then when he opened the trade window, he closed it promptly. His reason was:

buyer: "I thought it was gold."
me: "This is exactly as I advertised, skin+mods. I never said anything about it being gold."
buyer: "sorry I'm not buying."
me: "wth's the difference?"
buyer: *leaves*

wtf wot's up with vanity and ego on the american servers.....>_<
You can get some very nice purples. A guildie gave me a Brute Sword. r7, 13>50, 15-21. Sure its not max, but what is one friggin point, lol.

Winx.ZN

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

I have no problems trading in LA, actually its my favorite Stop N Shop place. The very reason you hate it (10 people selling a +30HP pommel for 100k) is the reason I like it.
Competition = GG. Go to where there is only 1 person selling it and you have no choice. In LA its chockful of them.
Say "Want To Buy : 10% DA Sword Hilt" and youll get ~10 pms. Add all those that you can fit into your group and say "Im paying 10k, whose got it."
What happenes a lot of the time is I get it for 7k since they are all there competing. Sometimes, a bunch of them leave, but the one guy who wants to actually sell his wares will sell it for what its "actually" worth.
They have those high prices for dumb people, but since you arent, you can bring them down to its actual worth quite easily.
Happy Shopping!
(and I wouldnt have given you that sword if you werent part of the Punch-Drunk Love group, hahahaha)


Quote:
Originally Posted by zeno
know exactly wot you mean. I got a purple axe drop once with decent mods, put up msg willing to sale it for 1k. Immediately got a buyer. Then when he opened the trade window, he closed it promptly. His reason was:

buyer: "I thought it was gold."
me: "This is exactly as I advertised, skin+mods. I never said anything about it being gold."
buyer: "sorry I'm not buying."
me: "wth's the difference?"
buyer: *leaves*

wtf wot's up with vanity and ego on the american servers.....>_<
Edit :
Oh, and vanity is the most expensive thing in life. Lexus is just a decked out Toyota, but its a "Lexus." Same goes for clothes and other "vanity" accessories. Its not just in America, its the world.
Pardon me if I dont only want my character to have good weapons but look good while I slaughter things too. (Watching my little man chop enemies into pieces wielding a req 8 15^50 gold dual gothic axe (I happen to like that skin) > watching him do it using collector hand axe). If I could buy him Ray-Ban Aviators and a Rolex Id do that too.

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

Don't like the prices don't buy the items..simple.

There is no rule where everyone has to follow "guru" prices its a free market and people are free to charge whatever they wish.

Yawgmoth

Yawgmoth

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

All this nonsense will happen until we get a *real* trading system, like an Auction House....
Where everyone will be able to check prices quickly,
where sellers will actually have to compete,
where anyone would get a huge choice of goods being sold,
where everything would be quick unlike the need to waste long hours on spamming just to sell or buy anything at a decent price,
where everyone would be able to buy what he needs without speaking to or hearing from those retarded, uber annoying LA/KC spammers, scammerrs, bots ...
But we didn't get ANY major trade system improvement since the introduction of the Rune Trader NPC, bleh /disgusted

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

The auction house is coming...Anet have given people what they have asked for before and this subject comes up daily.

A few examples..

1. Greens
2. guaranteed rune from salvaging
3. Rune trader
4. Increased drop rate
5. more events

the list goes on... the auction house will come in the next chapter probably with the first big update if they don't include it at the start.

big papi

big papi

Town Dweller

Join Date: Dec 2005

on the LOST island

[SMS]

i remeber this thread

right b4 factions came out and mod prices were crazy....

anyways gg on raising a 6 month old thread

Poison Ivy

Poison Ivy

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

Toronto

Hopping

Mo/A

Thread should be named American D1.

Mainly because I make money all the time in LA, my most sucessfull trade was buying a req.8 15^50 Fellblade for 90k and selling it for 100k + 12 ectos

Oh a GW forum

Oh a GW forum

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2006

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Herbalizer
i dont ever go to la unless i need a quick sale. the prices are disgusting and the buy low is non-existent when you have hundreds of well known campers there. long gone are the days of farmers not knowing what their stuff is worth and being able to pick up good deals several times an hour.
So you can't exploit new players anymore? My, what a shame...

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Oh a GW forum
So you can't exploit new players anymore? My, what a shame...
Don't cry for the newbies they would so the same thing to someone else if they got the chance...its a dog eat dog world being ruthless gets you to the top.

Tijger

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Mo/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sidra
What I want to know, is why the market in upgrades seems to have exploded in front of my eyes? I had never been much of a trader, but I never saw so many things going for so much at once.
Hold on, the fact that ppl are shouting prices doesnt mean they'll sell those mods for the stated price.

I just chuckle when I see someone shouting 100K+ecto for an upgrade

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

An asking price should never be what you actually want for the item, the asking price should always be higher to compensate for any haggling that may occur.

I highly doubt that most spammers ever sell at their asking price, knock of 20-30% and you get a more realistic selling price in most cases.

arcanemacabre

arcanemacabre

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Kryta Province

Angel Sharks [As]

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Admins Bane
Don't cry for the newbies they would so the same thing to someone else if they got the chance...its a dog eat dog world being ruthless gets you to the top.
Which is exactly why I'm not at the top, not even close. Despite what people like that would have you believe, it has nothing to do with how intelligent you are, or how much you know about the market. It has everything to do with not giving a crap about who you step on to make it to the top.

No, not all newbies would do the same, I was a newbie once, and I'm still not doing that. Just goes to show how small some people's worlds really are.

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

Lol morals and ethics are all well and good but they are traits that don't bode well in the business world.

Jessica Pariah

Jessica Pariah

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

Warrior's Isle

LF PvP/GvG Guild.

Quote:
Originally Posted by big papi
everything is inflated in la d1 zealous axe mods are priced at 25k! im sure people are dump enough to buy them but i see the same people selling the same thing for the same price for days

just buy stuff on here its easier
I don't want to be rude, but if the server reaction time or whatever else is lagging the **** out of us was a bit faster, we could actually make bids and dont get errors/time-outs.

Oh by the way, there are some bid snipers on this site. I bid +100g, they offer +100g in 0.1 sec, riiiiiight..

Greetings, Jessica
IGN: Ayumi Massacre

arcanemacabre

arcanemacabre

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Kryta Province

Angel Sharks [As]

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Admins Bane
Lol morals and ethics are all well and good but they are traits that don't bode well in the business world.
LOL at applying buisness world ideals in a video game where the currency is generated constantly and infinite. The richest people in this game are the heads of Chinese sweat shops. How does that fit into your model of video game economics?

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

Quote:
Oh by the way, there are some bid snipers on this site. I bid +100g, they offer +100g in 0.1 sec, riiiiiight..
lol people will watch an item closely if they want to own it, its all part of the game.

Quote:
LOL at applying buisness world ideals in a video game where the currency is generated constantly and infinite. The richest people in this game are the heads of Chinese sweat shops. How does that fit into your model of video game economics?
The chinese are good for business...they create more stupid people willing to pay full price.

Ebayers=credit card idiots in real life, they see the cash and there eyes light up they spend spend spend making everyone around themseleves richer whilst making themseleves poorer in the long run.

I own 3 business and I love the credit card idiots

big papi

big papi

Town Dweller

Join Date: Dec 2005

on the LOST island

[SMS]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jessica Pariah
I don't want to be rude, but if the server reaction time or whatever else is lagging the **** out of us was a bit faster, we could actually make bids and dont get errors/time-outs.

Oh by the way, there are some bid snipers on this site. I bid +100g, they offer +100g in 0.1 sec, riiiiiight..

Greetings, Jessica
IGN: Ayumi Massacre
Usually when i respond to a post I check the date to see when that person postsed. If that person made that post 6 months ago chances are you should just leave it .

AWiggin

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Oct 2006

We Rage[QUIT]

W/E

Lol, why would anyone listen to the FFA? (Foriegn Farming Association aka EBay Gold sellers) Of course they are going to spam high prices, it's all about the gold, but generally they are easy to drive down.
As for those posted mod prices, those are the exception, not the rule. A zealous is 5k, tops, you can buy them all day at that price. All elemental mods are 1-2k, and all you have to do is spam WTB Icy hilt a couple times, and you'll have 10 pm's to choose the lowest price from.

With the advent of Nightfall, and the rumored ability (See PcGamer) to salvage inherant damage mods, I would imagine common 15^50 weapons will start jumping in price.

Ender

MMSDome

MMSDome

Raged Out

Join Date: Sep 2005

yea its terrible and I see people selling crap for 100k+ectos, its terrible what people think they will get. Thats why i cant stand to go to Lions Arch.

Franco

Franco

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2006

England

VoB

Me/

lol you should go to ascalon international district, thats where all the dumb ebayers pick up their money, so everyone is always there ready to rip them off, and good, they deserve it.

Y.T.

Y.T.

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2005

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rayne Nightfyre
It's extremely painful to average gold makers like myself who need a relatively common weapon mod and have to shell out tons of platinum. There needs to be a way to stablize the economy, I feel a Weapon Upgrade Trader would be a good way to do that. Weapon upgrades are really the only thing I notice that are ridiculously overpriced, and I do believe it would only help the economy if these prices were regulated somewhat.
i agree. plus upgrade trader will not only stabilize the prices but also reduce the time we have to spend hopping between diff towns/distr yelling WTB (personally thats the part i hate the most)

back to OP - i'm staying away from LA1, if i have to sell/buy smth there r droks amer1, and we have KC amer1 now.... so why bother arguing about prices with chinese farming bots? i'd rather support the local economy