Illogical Drops

Dj Tano

Dj Tano

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Dont you guys think it just looks silly when you kill a spider and it drops a staff or even a hammer? Or when you go out and kill a matle knight and he gives you a bow? And doesnt it just look stupid when a griffon drops 100g?

I think drops should be a bit more logical. Instead of making a minotaur drop a hammer, make him drop a horn or a bit of meat wich you can sell at the merchant. Make a seeker drop a bow and a knight drop a sword. Also make only logical enemies drop gold. A griffon does not take gold with him because he doesnt need it, a dwarf instead does.

MAKE DROPS LOGICAL!!!

Lady Lorwinia

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

In this universe. In north america. That should keep you pedophiles guessing^^

R/Me

Amen!

Phoenix Avenger

Phoenix Avenger

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2005

Wisconsin

Eternal Knights

E/Mo

hellz yeah!

quickmonty

quickmonty

Ancient Windbreaker

Join Date: May 2005

Thinking about this. There you are ..... say, a monk. Some mobs have just been killed and you pick up some "silly" drops. Silly for you ..... griffon wings, hammers, monsterous eyes. Next battle you die. Monsters gather around and say ..... "Why is a monk carrying all that silly stuff?"

And how do you know a griffon doesn't need gold. He has to have some coinage in his pocket after a hard day so he can stop off and have a cold one with his buddies.

saneo

saneo

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2005

lol, nice one, i wouldn't mind having the armors drop runes with the correct class on them, but that would probably be abused

Eden2k5

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

It's little known fact that Griffons are loansharks!

Dj Tano

Dj Tano

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

The thing with other mobs having picked up loot is a smart answer to this, but be serious for a moment, and youll see i have a point...

BahamutKaiser

BahamutKaiser

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Heightened state of mind.

P/W

Same Reason Dragons Horde gold.....

If you organize the drops based on what the creature is, players who normally have a chance of getting what they need will have to go to specific enemies instead of simply fighting hard enemies to get what they want. And players will go around trying to kill specific enemies in order to get what the want instead of "any" hard monster.

Could you imagine if the only drops you got from the minotaurs in underworld were Minotaur hides and warrior runes?

Zhou Feng

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

CATS

Mo/Me

Well not really. In every rpg drops are ridiculously illogical. I mean Rats having gold and/or weapons?

Dj Tano

Dj Tano

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

I know there is a game where drops are not just random stuff but i cant remember its name. And i think even Oblivion has got specific drops hasnt it?

Nivryx

Nivryx

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

Kenya

Mo/

eh...i can deal with what you consider 'illogical' drops...however, i can't deal with what i consider 'illogical' drops...

after farming in various areas for quite some time you get some odd golds....such as my max stone summit shield req 8, +1 water magic (20%)...sure....it would be worth a decent amount if i found someone who needed it....but i dont see many warrior/ele's looking for a water magic shield...

then my all time favorite. gold drop from chest in ring of fire. Insightful Fire Staff of Fortitude...forget the mod stats except....max damge req 11 (fire magic) then a completely random Halves cooldown time 10% (req 10 Air Magic (WTF?!))

to me, THATS illogical...lets put air req on a fire staff! gg!

Hunter Sharparrow

Hunter Sharparrow

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

Jeepers Kreepers

R/Mo

/signed

The gold must have been carried by the last adventurer that was eaten whole.

LifeInfusion

LifeInfusion

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

in the midline

E/Mo

That would make monk bosses even more fun for mesmers to kill and warrior's the most annoying thing to get drops for. Lol

I think it is okay, but you can only make it logical to an extent.

TGgold

TGgold

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Flying Gophers

Rt/P

I always thought birds were attracted to shiney objects...so maybe the griffs do have reason to have gold ^_~

Dougal Kronik

Dougal Kronik

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2005

Ontario, Canada

Glengarry Fencibles

R/

OK, I agree that the creature drops should be logical.

But when I was in the Crystal Desert in the Prophet's Path going from Amnoon Oasis to Augury Rock with second Character, I came across the usual Jade Scarabs that popped up from the ground. While I was fighting them I noticed one of the scarabs had something on it's front left leg. Looked like a boot at first. I was thinking, "What the h*** is that on that scarab?" When it died it dropped a Grim Cesta - the one that looks like a glove. (Wish I took a screenshot of it!)

So, don't be surprised if the drops are logical to the powers that be!

sh4ft3d

sh4ft3d

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

A long time ago, in a galaxy far far away...

Frank Ought To Monk [FotM]

W/

I don't know, runes would drop precipitously in price if only class-specific runes dropped. It would be awesome for Monks and Wars, and Necros aswell. No more complaining about high rune prices anymore!

R A C

R A C

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2005

In my parent's basement

R/Mo

/not signed. The curent system is fine.

lyra_song

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

Warrior / Ranger type bosses drop warrior or ranger items
Casters drop caster items
Monks drop monk items
Necros drop necro items
Mesmers drop mesmer items

runes are randomish

Bah Lloomee

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2006

It should be made logical to an extent.

I like the randomness of the drops, it keeps things exciting. If I knew what was going to be dropped before I even killed something, it would start to get boring.

I do agree with what Nivryx is saying, those kind of off the wall upgrade combinations can get ridiculous.

Rayne Nightfyre

Rayne Nightfyre

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Acolytes of Lyssa [AL]

Me/A

/Not signed

I understand what the OP is getting at, but if I farm Mountain Trolls with my Mesmer, I don't want only Mesmer items dropping (Warrior and Ranger items tend to sell for more). There is nothing wrong with the way it is now.

Sidra

Sidra

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2006

CT

NITE

R/

/not signed. I can see your point, but the only thing that I can see worth changing here is matching the halve recharge/cast/cooldown/whatever attribute with the REQ ATTRIBUTE

actionjack

actionjack

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2005

Kali

W/E

Not Sign

its a good idea.. and in game, its already in somewhat logical drops (where a warrior mob will drop warrior stuff...)

The reason I would make is that It would make some mob better than other. (thought with time, they could rearrange the mob appearence to balance it out more)

But the main reason is it take away the excitment of treasure hunting. For most part, we all like to find unknow drops, hoping it would be some goodie item. Taking away some of the weapon drops drain that excitment.

lightblade

lightblade

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

The Etereal Guard

Me/Mo

/NOT signed

If you look closer before you kill the spider, you'll notice the spider have 8 legs, 6 is on the ground and 2 is holding the staff.

VERY LOGICAL

sarcasteak

sarcasteak

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2006

Kaineng Center

[Moe]

N/

/not signed.

Of course, I'd very much appreciate it if that darn Avicara who carried a Vampiric Felblade actually DROP that Felblade instead of a Long Sword, but ehh, the whole illogical drop system is a necessary evil for the sake of balance.

Anyone who complains about getting worthless Staves and Bows that take up too mmuch inventory space should try using normal Salvage Kit on said worthless items to get lots of Wooden Planks and open up space. =\

Zui

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

The Benecia Renovatio [RenO]

Mo/

/not signed

Minoutars use hammer skills. It's somewhat logical they can drop hammers.

White Mantle Knights are warriors. Plenty of human warriors bring a bow for pulling.

Also, if you made the drop system work by what the monster is carrying, people would be non-stop farming Jade armors for Murassat Hammers and Tengu for Fellblades, Jade Bows for Murassat-skinned Horn Bows... It'd make many currently rare and prized items loose value, and the only to compensate for that would be to reduce the quality drops from monsters even more...

TheLordOfBlah

TheLordOfBlah

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2006

California

None

Mo/N

I already find drops are sorta like that. For instance if you go and kill hydras, they drop lelmentalist weps. I think the drop system is fine.

shardfenix

shardfenix

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2005

Il Power Overwhelming Il [HaX]

Or when you kill a gargoyle boss and 2 skulls pop out...
/signed

mega_jamie

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

UK

Warlords of Ruin

A/Mo

surely all griffons should drop 2 wings, or atleast give you the option to hack them off if you have a sword or axe or something. And if you want a monstrous eye so much, just pluck them out.

Would be quite amusing new dynamic to run around deficating corpses for collector pieces.

Lord Cooper

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Black Death Knights

E/

actually hydras dont just drop ele weapons. ive a had a gold axe gold hammer numerous bows and god knows how many fiery dragon swords.

making mobs drop profession specific items wouldnt work. imagine rune farming the ettins.. all you would get are warrior runes. that means a MUCH higher chance to get that superior absorb or superior vigor. it would seriously devalue these items

spellsword

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

Its a game, it doesnt have to be logical.

Reve2uk

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2005

W/N

u see most of the creatures holing the items, like when u go close to gaints a tiny hammer apears in there hand :P

the most annoying thing is that you can get golds that have no DMG mod, that is the most annoying thing that they need to fix about drops........ y be gold if it has no mod ????


... oly logical drop thing they should change is the SF bosses, some times they drop random stuff and when you are tying to get there weopon its like wtf????? he dosen't even have a sheild???

MysticoN

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2005

The Lord of the guilds

N/R

Imo logical drops would make people gather at the same places ..f.ex if ecto only had been dropped by a certain enemy .. dont you think every hardcore farmer would gather at that same spot ? .. would create unbalance in the system and economy imo

Don Zardeone

Don Zardeone

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

/not signed


what would be cool though, boobietrapped drops

ZeBigBird has dropped a vial of dye(red).
Someguy: wooo cool a red dye
You have picked up the dye(Molotov cooktail)
Someguy: what the...

BOOM

hehe

Use it when people are farming too much. Exploding 55monks everywhere yay!



edit: lol I wrote it correctly as RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOtail..

Drow Lor

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2006

California

SBD

/not signed

What I find irritating is finding drops that have nothing to do with my character...if Im using a warrior I get grim cestas and idols and crap like that...the drops should seem to coincide with the specialty...it does not. I like the gold, not the amount. I suppose I dont have any complaints with the current system...

Be thankful that the creatures aren't dropping "duece"

Arkantos

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

In about any game, monsters drop gold, and that should stay like that. But say when a troll drops a raven staff, its just odd. Also, some monsters wield weapons. I was in Kryta today and I saw this:


Someone PLEASE tell me why an inferno imp would have a skeleton shield

quickmonty

quickmonty

Ancient Windbreaker

Join Date: May 2005

off hand item ..... self defense

I see nothing wrong with that.

GentleBreezes

GentleBreezes

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2006

Cheltenham, England

I'v got no problem with theway things are dropped... i like teh randomness of it.

One thing I don't understand is why Ether Seals drop swords (maybe it's just me that finds that weird)...

jackie

jackie

/retired

Join Date: Dec 2005

On the Beach

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