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sir lockt

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2006

The Netherlands

Lightning Strikes Twice

Mo/

21 Apr 2006 at 06:33 - 1

Today I checked the new screenies of the monsters in Faction. As we withnessed in the closing event, the monsters are airborne now, adding a new dimension to monster fighting!

http://www.guildwars.com/images/scre...en122-page.jpg

I really like such extra dimension, but was wondering if these monsters can attack ranged, so making warriors useless...

For me i would really like such an extra feature. It prevents tanking and make strategy more dept. What do you think about this?

Ishmaeel

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

21 Apr 2006 at 06:45 - 2

I don't think we will see truly airborne monsters in Factions. Remember (or know about) the dragon from the end of the FPE? Silly thing seemed to be flying but it was really an ordinary walking creature like the rest of us, just designed to be rendered afloat. People were able to bodyblock him.

True flying creatures would indeed be a nice touch for the PvE.

Hella Good

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

None, free and clear

21 Apr 2006 at 08:28 - 3

I have yet to see an actual flying creature in an RPG. And thinking that by now they would've come up with it (virtually all modern RPGs are 3D). But fear not, sooner or later there will be birds in the sky.

TheMosesPHD

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2006

Oregon

Mo Mo Patty Blinks [MoMo]

R/

21 Apr 2006 at 08:40 - 4

If they made flying creatures in the game then you'd get all the warriors running around with their swords waving around above their heads hoping one of the gargoyles would just fly a bit lower

Stranger The Ranger

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

Those Netherlands

Dynasty Warriors [DW]

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21 Apr 2006 at 09:03 - 5

Hmmm, nice, I hope it would make Rangers and Air Ele's more wanted in PvE(assuming they'll be weak against Lightning and Arrows)

Big_Iron

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

The Edge

Tormented Weapons [emo]

21 Apr 2006 at 10:07 - 6

Those new screens look great. And flying dragons! Woo hoo!

mega_jamie

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

UK

Warlords of Ruin

A/Mo

21 Apr 2006 at 10:11 - 7

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hella Good

I have yet to see an actual flying creature in an RPG. And thinking that by now they would've come up with it (virtually all modern RPGs are 3D). But fear not, sooner or later there will be birds in the sky.

I was doing Villainy the other day and got to the last section, and in the swamps i saw a butterfly flying around. If that counts.

Maybe full flying would be something they would bring in for ch.3. It would be interesting to require skill combinations cross class / player. So people would run around screaming "LFP Kill the sky beast, req. Ele with levitate ally or Mesmer with Imagined Wings"

It would add a great new dynamic to the game if they added stuff like that, so for certain missions some maybe considered 'lesser classes' are needed for the easy kill.

But then the radar may need to be 3D, so you can see the Z-axis Agro range as well.

/crawl to avoid arial agro, lol.

Sarah Arano

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

Singapore

The Runners Academy [LBS]

W/

21 Apr 2006 at 10:37 - 8

Quote:

Originally Posted by mega_jamie

Maybe full flying would be something they would bring in for ch.3. It would be interesting to require skill combinations cross class / player. So people would run around screaming "LFP Kill the sky beast, req. Ele with levitate ally or Mesmer with Imagined Wings"

I can imagine an ele using levitate ally, flinging the nearest warrior forward while he screams..

Nevin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2005

21 Apr 2006 at 11:00 - 9

Hmm, hopefully there will be hawks, eagles, ravens etc etc... Now for Rangers.

Synthos

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2005

21 Apr 2006 at 11:44 - 10

Im sure the warriors will still be able to hit it from the ground ;P

Braggi

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

21 Apr 2006 at 12:33 - 11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hella Good

I have yet to see an actual flying creature in an RPG.

Hm, Sacred comes to mind, had even a flying character in the AddOn. As the game logic was ISO (not 3D, so heigth was not an issue) it was rather levitating than flying as well, but came pretty close. You could fly over 'half go' areas like lakes or fences (basicly anything you could shoot over), but not over massive obstacles.

I of the Dragon, where you fly them in 3D, but thats not really an RPG.

Rancour

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Camp Rancor (Rancour :D)

I'm a free spirit (that's not what the guild is called, I just am)

W/R

21 Apr 2006 at 12:39 - 12

I agree, flying enemies/characters would rock. Would open up for some more character professions and skill types, as well as whole new combat mechanics.

Perhaps an idea for chapter 4?

GentleBreezes

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2006

Cheltenham, England

21 Apr 2006 at 12:46 - 13

The pics thay released looked really good

Tbh, if they look half as good in game as they do on there, i'll be happy...

GranDeWun

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

21 Apr 2006 at 12:58 - 14

All part of the conspiracy to get more rangers into PUGs...

sir lockt

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2006

The Netherlands

Lightning Strikes Twice

Mo/

21 Apr 2006 at 13:05 - 15

Quote:

Originally Posted by GentleBreezes

The pics thay released looked really good

Tbh, if they look half as good in game as they do on there, i'll be happy...

I think the quality is similar to what i've seen in the FPE, so I think you will be happy

You are right.. they where bodyblocked in the FPE, so they are still considered "on the ground"

The extra dimension would add so much to the game... a dragon ele, trowing fire-balls to the ground, while only ranged units can deal with it... that would be nice...

Rebirther

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Join Date: Aug 2005

England, UK

Clan Dethryche

Mo/Me

21 Apr 2006 at 13:11 - 16

hum isn't that the dragon from the alliance battle map? "salt flats" or something like that? located on the central capture point of that map. heres a screen i took a while ago. dragons are cool. remember this creature killed 5 players on its own! granted they were all casters (emo/mesmer and couple of monks) but thats not the point

ace/

fiery

Banned

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maryland

InYurFace Gaming [IYF]

R/

21 Apr 2006 at 13:35 - 17

Blah rangers? You mean Rangers don't need others!

Mordakai

Grotto Attendant

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Kyhlo

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21 Apr 2006 at 13:57 - 18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hella Good

I have yet to see an actual flying creature in an RPG. And thinking that by now they would've come up with it (virtually all modern RPGs are 3D). But fear not, sooner or later there will be birds in the sky.

Isn't EverQuests new expansion all about flying creatures? That's how they are selling it, anyway...

dreamhunk

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2006

:P

E/Me

21 Apr 2006 at 18:51 - 19

It is about time we had air born creatures. however they need to be truely air born and we need air born weapons. Like boomarangs and stuff. Maybe air fighting skills for professions.

TheMosesPHD

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2006

Oregon

Mo Mo Patty Blinks [MoMo]

R/

21 Apr 2006 at 20:46 - 20

Yes, levitation...because the only thing better than 4 warriors 2 trappers and 2 necros running towards you, is 4 warriors 2 trappers and 2 necros flying at you. Sounds balanced to me :O

Raiin Maker

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

England

Blood On The Worlds Hands

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21 Apr 2006 at 20:50 - 21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hella Good

I have yet to see an actual flying creature in an RPG. And thinking that by now they would've come up with it (virtually all modern RPGs are 3D). But fear not, sooner or later there will be birds in the sky.

They have them in WOW (World Of Warcraft).

SisterMercy

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2005

Sisters of Mercy

22 Apr 2006 at 02:46 - 22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hella Good

I have yet to see an actual flying creature in an RPG. And thinking that by now they would've come up with it (virtually all modern RPGs are 3D). But fear not, sooner or later there will be birds in the sky.

TES:Morowind had. It was annoying too, because you could only view first-person, and only knew the birdies were there when you heard the caw and saw the red flashes of your blood.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Synthos

Im sure the warriors will still be able to hit it from the ground ;P

Yeah, I didn't see any indication that the z-axis glitch has been addressed (in fact, saw to the contrary). From what I heard, it results from part of the fundamental architecture of the game, and not likely possible to change.

shadow-violet

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Gate

E/

22 Apr 2006 at 03:46 - 23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarah Arano

I can imagine an ele using levitate ally, flinging the nearest warrior forward while he screams..

now just imagine what you could do with him when he makes you mad

Radu Deucalion

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2006

Tribal Instincts

Mo/

22 Apr 2006 at 23:27 - 24

They should make it so grounded melee characters do less (half) dmg to fliers, and could also make another profession, something like a lancer, or dragoon, a meleer using spears. Kind of a cross between a warrior and a ranger, can have skills that "throw" the spear as a ranged attack with whatever modifiers (+dmg or status effect) but shorter range than arrows, plus do increased damage to fliers, like monks do to undead