Leavers...you suck you know that?

Gun Pierson

Gun Pierson

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

Belgium

PIMP

Mo/

This goes out to peeps who join a group and leave after a while for several reasons:

1) 'dinner is ready': Wtf don't start a coop. adventure if you know you're going to eat in 15-30 minutes. Or at least warn the others you're having dinner soon and ask if it's ok to be afk for 5-15 minutes if that's an option.

2) 'my comp crashed': Weird, mine never crashes. Put firewall, anti-spyware, anti-virus on your computer and get a good connection. You can download zone-alarm for free.

3) ...

I must admit I was forced to leave a group myself this week for the first time in almost a year. I got an unexpected visit from my boss and couldn't finish the game.

Bottom line: People should only leave for a serious reason otherwise they shouldn't start adventuring. If not you're selfish and wasting other's time. I consider getting an unexpected visit from a woman who wants to .... your brains out as a valid reason though.

Dr Strangelove

Dr Strangelove

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Dec 2005

Wasting away again in Margaritaville

[HOTR]

Please! Leave the poor dead horse alone! Hasn't he been beaten enough?

Gun Pierson

Gun Pierson

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

Belgium

PIMP

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr Strangelove
Please! Leave the poor dead horse alone! Hasn't he been beaten enough?
NO! The only thing that has been beaten enough are groups suffering from leavers.

Avarre

Avarre

Bubblegum Patrol

Join Date: Dec 2005

Singapore Armed Forces

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gun Pierson
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2) 'my comp crashed': Weird, mine never crashes.
Yeah, and you're the basis of what is supposed to happen. Thought obviously your complaint is invalid, my groupmembers never leave.

Your other points are fairly valid, but what's the purpose of this?

Gun Pierson

Gun Pierson

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

Belgium

PIMP

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Avarre
Yeah, and you're the basis of what is supposed to happen. Thought obviously your complaint is invalid, my groupmembers never leave.

Your other points are fairly valid, but what's the purpose of this?
As you have the luxury groupmembers never leave, the purpose of this is to hopefully make leavers aware it's not fun for the ones who stay behind and have to cancel a mission or whatever. Like doing a pet/barrage team in tombs and you get 2-3 leavers in the last rounds. Fun aye, wasted an hour. I like to finish what I start.

Bale_Shadowscar

Bale_Shadowscar

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Manchester, England

New Dragons [NDR]

Hehehe.. you know what you should do? Try and find the person again, and form a group with them and the rest guildies, then go into tombs/ta/mission/ w/e and win a few battles and then just gradually leave. That would be funny.

But on the otherhand, you can't always predict what happened to them if they logged out with no reason. As you said in your first post, you once had a situation where you had to leave, and error 7's aren't unheard of...

Avarre

Avarre

Bubblegum Patrol

Join Date: Dec 2005

Singapore Armed Forces

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gun Pierson
As you have the luxury groupmembers never leave, the purpose of this is to hopefully make leavers aware it's not fun for the ones who stay behind and have to cancel a mission or whatever. Like doing a pet/barrage team in tombs and you get 2-3 leavers in the last rounds. Fun aye, wasted an hour. I like to finish what I start.
Someone missed my point... I was explaining why your 2nd point is conpletely irrelevant.

Anyways, I said this thread has no purpose because it is the 10000th of its kind.

TheMosesPHD

TheMosesPHD

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2006

Oregon

Mo Mo Patty Blinks [MoMo]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gun Pierson
This goes out to peeps who join a group and leave after a while for several reasons:

1) 'dinner is ready': Wtf don't start a coop. adventure if you know you're going to eat in 15-30 minutes. Or at least warn the others you're having dinner soon and ask if it's ok to be afk for 5-15 minutes if that's an option.

2) 'my comp crashed': Weird, mine never crashes. Put firewall, anti-spyware, anti-virus on your computer and get a good connection. You can download zone-alarm for free.

3) ...

I must admit I was forced to leave a group myself this week for the first time in almost a year. I got an unexpected visit from my boss and couldn't finish the game.

Bottom line: People should only leave for a serious reason otherwise they shouldn't start adventuring. If not you're selfish and wasting other's time. I consider getting an unexpected visit from a woman who wants to .... your brains out as a valid reason though.
Alright eh, what do you want us to say? We understand. You just got royally screwed over by some noobass group(s) and it got you super pissed. You can't stand it because there is nothing you can do about it. I understand what it's like man, but please please please don't create one of these kinds of threads. Complaint threads always end in evil things.

Viruzzz

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gun Pierson
2) 'my comp crashed': Weird, mine never crashes. Put firewall, anti-spyware, anti-virus on your computer and get a good connection. You can download zone-alarm for free.
just because yours does not crash doesn't meaneveryone else can't have problems. FYI viruses are not the only thing that crashes your computer, actually they rarely do. most do bad things, but don't actually crash it..

if your connection is lost for just a little while you wont be able to get back. and some people have shitty connections. i crash a lot because of that once in a while(happens in bursts of a few days for me, whenever the provider is doing things, but some people have permanent problems)

Faer

Faer

La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Avarre
Someone missed my point... I was explaining why your 2nd point is conpletely irrelevant.

Anyways, I said this thread has no purpose because it is the 10000th of its kind.
I'll second both of those points...

I've been known to randomly drop out of missions and quests for no reason that the team knows of... It seems to happen most frequently when I am in a 2-man UW team, at the worst possible moment.

It's called an Error=07, and it sucks. Also, my computer doesn't have the greatest hardware right now. It's old, getting sluggish, and it's an ornery whale sometimes. I've got every protection you have and probably more, but that doesn't stop it from going *BOOM!* every now and then. Oh and, by the way, you shouldn't tell people to "get a good connection" because honestly, do you think they'd have an inferior one when it was possible to have the superior version?

No. Duh. It's called lack of resources, be they money or availability. Not everyone has the luxury of a local DSL/Cable/Sattelite provider. And I'm damn sure not everyone can afford the broadband bills.

Yeah. Those people that start what they can't finish, or just leave for the hell of it, need to give it up and quit with the nonsense. However, this thread is like the bajillionth of its kind, so give it a rest already and post in one of the other ones...

Don Zardeone

Don Zardeone

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gun Pierson
2) 'my comp crashed': Weird, mine never crashes.
Since when does GW run on mac?

O.o











O....k.....
leavers suck indeed but comps crash, connections get lost, people die, children are hungry and Bush is stupid

Whatcha gonna do?


(no seriously, does GW run on linux maybe? How come he never crashes? O.o?!)

Gli

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gun Pierson
I must admit I was forced to leave a group myself this week for the first time in almost a year. I got an unexpected visit from my boss and couldn't finish the game.
OMG why even start a group if you have any responsibility in life at all that might call you away from your computer? You're just a leaver like everyone else and you for that you suck like all of them, except you obviously suck a bit more for the hypocrisy in your post.

Juicey Shake

Juicey Shake

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

CA

in it for the trimmmm

R/

whaaat. in before the lock, haah. flamefesttt....

Edge Martinez

Edge Martinez

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

NC

DKL

Quote:
Originally Posted by Don Zardeone
comps crash, connections get lost, people die, children are hungry and Bush is stupid

Whatcha gonna do?

cry, find them, cry, feed them, cry

QoH

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

Divine Beings

R/

This happens to everyone, get over it.

Makkert

Makkert

Black Beast of Aarrrrgghh

Join Date: May 2005

The Netherlands

The Biggyverse [PLEB] // Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gun Pierson
NO! The only thing that has been beaten enough are groups suffering from leavers.
Seriously, this has been beaten to death allready. After that, it was necro-ed several times, only to smithe the undead horse again.

It's almost a fact of GW Pugging. You can ask the questions if they will have diner soon or otherwise leave, but that's about it. It's a fact that Real Life can kick sometimes, as well as ragequitters in GW.

As for the rant on connectionfailure, it CAN happen. But I shouldn't defend it, all these arguments were also allready beaten to death.

R.I.P.

please...

Pr1nc355SaRa

Pr1nc355SaRa

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2005

UK

Here Be Dragons

sometimes i have to leave because of error=7 thingy. but i can't find anyway to help that.

i will purposely leave a group if people try and tell me how to run my build, or if we all have 60dp. or if everyone is yelling at the monks, i hate that.

but i do say before i leave (apart from the error msg thing) unlike people who just leave without giving reason.

led-zep

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gun Pierson
This goes out to peeps who join a group and leave after a while for several reasons:

1) 'dinner is ready': Wtf don't start a coop. adventure if you know you're going to eat in 15-30 minutes. Or at least warn the others you're having dinner soon and ask if it's ok to be afk for 5-15 minutes if that's an option.

2) 'my comp crashed': Weird, mine never crashes. Put firewall, anti-spyware, anti-virus on your computer and get a good connection. You can download zone-alarm for free.

3) ...

I must admit I was forced to leave a group myself this week for the first time in almost a year. I got an unexpected visit from my boss and couldn't finish the game.

Bottom line: People should only leave for a serious reason otherwise they shouldn't start adventuring. If not you're selfish and wasting other's time. I consider getting an unexpected visit from a woman who wants to .... your brains out as a valid reason though.
maybe they leave cos you are annoying and have to make an excuse so the dont hurt your feelings?
cant understand why people whine about leavers then admit they have left a group too.

Pr1nc355SaRa

Pr1nc355SaRa

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2005

UK

Here Be Dragons

oh, i also leave games because i have a baby and when he wakes up, obviously he comes before me playing a game.

are people with lives and families aloud to join your co-ops???

Silent Kitty

Silent Kitty

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

Netherlands

[TYW] "The Young World"

A/Me

I never leave, unless the party is no longer fun. People might be yelling at each other or someone decided to screw up the bonus. Or when people blame me for them dieing all the time. I can't think of any more reasons, but the "No fun" part covers most of it. Real live comes in its way too, but I always warn when that happens.
Sometimes, when things get sour, I simply go my own way, cleaning our tracks of trash

Tainek

Tainek

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

[Rage]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Don Zardeone
Since when does GW run on mac?

O.o











O....k.....
leavers suck indeed but comps crash, connections get lost, people die, children are hungry and Bush is stupid

Whatcha gonna do?


(no seriously, does GW run on linux maybe? How come he never crashes? O.o?!)
mines usually run in linux using WINE, but my computer is perfectly stable even running windows, running windows i restart by choice every 3 days , linux never needs rebooting

keeping a 24/7 stable pc isnt hard

Sekkira

Sekkira

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2005

Canberra, AU

I rarely get err 7's. Sometimes my connection dies because my ISP is retarded. I also understand that NVidia Video Cards aren't on a friend-like basis with Guild Wars. It seems it's not an unusual thing for the client to just disappear from existance apparently. Or event freeze up, mess the screen and require a reboot.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tainek
keeping a 24/7 stable pc isnt hard
Try doing that with a Microsoft OS. Really. 24/7.

Big_Iron

Big_Iron

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

The Edge

Tormented Weapons [emo]

Yes, leavers suck. But people's computers DO crash, the game crashes and internet connections drop. It's a fact of life. Let's move on.

Lasareth

Lasareth

Aquarius

Join Date: Jun 2005

Somewhere between Boardwalk and Park Place

Not that this topic needed to be open to begin with, but since we're going off on all sorts of tangents, closed.