Farm-Bot Invasion at Elona Reach International Dis1

Miraculix B.

Miraculix B.

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

in my kingdom cold

Just watch it for a few minutes. asian farm bots taking over international districts.

Lady Lozza

Lady Lozza

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

Oz

Angel Sharks

Me/N

You are joking right? This is the area I've been farming recently for a little extra gold for the factions release, if they do something to take that away from me... Death to all bots!!!
Oh well, if they put devourers there I can just move on to one of the other spots in the desert. Hydra aren't that bad after all, once you learn to count the meteors...

Darkaan

Darkaan

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jan 2006

Near Bremen (Germany)

My Soul In Your Eyes [LoVe]

R/E

Hello dear GW-guru-community,
I searched for a similar thread, but didn't found one.
In the international districts of Elonas Reach are a lot of Mo/W, who spawn on two different places and run on a weird way (they all run against the wall) to the merchant. After that they disappear and a few minutes later the same Monks respawn at Elonas Reach and run exactly the same way to the merchant.
I couldn't believe it until i saw it with my own eyes. See for yourself, if you should disbelieve.


p.s.: I am sorry for my English, it's not the best

Cyan The Archer

Cyan The Archer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

Denmark

R/

What the f... are you talking about? I dont see ANY problem bots at Elona atm..

























Gonzo

Gonzo

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2006

Netherlands

Defenders of the Blackblade [DotB]

W/

It's a lowprofit small farming area that goes to crap after the third zone. Highly doubt bots will be unleashed there.

Big_Iron

Big_Iron

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

The Edge

Tormented Weapons [emo]

I've been farming there with my 55 Necro and my Warrior a lot as well, but haven't seen bots. But I haven't been to the Int district either. I'll go check it out. I really hope it's not nerfed. You can't get rich there, but the farming is still decent.

Lady Lozza

Lady Lozza

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

Oz

Angel Sharks

Me/N

Does anyone know why the farmers insist on doing what they do in the ID dist? I mean if you are farming why don't you just do it in your home dist?

Big_Iron

Big_Iron

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

The Edge

Tormented Weapons [emo]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lady Lozza
Does anyone know why the farmers insist on doing what they do in the ID dist? I mean if you are farming why don't you just do it in your home dist?
Crossover with other districts. "25k, ok?"

Evilsod

Evilsod

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2006

England

Lievs Death Squad [LDS]

Just went for a quick look and saw much the same as that picture. A ton of Mo/W on the same spot.

Why send botters there? I used it to power level myself on my low level monk. The 'rewards' i got from massacring Minotaurs got me jack, could barely use it to cover the cost of the merchants scrolls.

Wildi

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

PvE is the Metagame

the Mo/K guys are bots they are running against the wall before they are able to talk to the npc, okay if you don't see this you must be 12 years old or something

Matsumi

Matsumi

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2006

Maybe Anet cut them a deal, and now that is the only district they can farm in. Or maybe it causes less of a stir that way, I don't know.

I saw a guy in Lion's Arch one day (American dist), he had 3 identicle male monks with him that were all standing in a row together. They looked like they had pre-searing armor on still, and a fishy guild tag that I've seen before on some of the more suspicious farmers in droks. When he decided to zone out of LA, before I could get a SS of it, he jumped up in the air and they all disappeared with him. Not really sure why he jumped before zoning, maybe just switching districts, but it was kind of strange, and late in the evening. He seemed to be checking out the faction characters there, but it was the strangest thing I've seen recently.

Lady Lozza

Lady Lozza

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

Oz

Angel Sharks

Me/N

But no one would seriously buy anything in Elona ID one. Why don't they just farm in their home dist, then jump to Droks ID for selling???
Ok, I don't know anything about how bot programs work, but surely this would make sense... or maybe not, like I said I know zero about bot programs, save that they are possible.

The Fox

The Fox

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

I run Elona's (VOB - shamless plug) all of the time and can stay that this goes beyond just the international districts. Actually, it's kind of annoying because it's harder to find people that are actually in the districts to give runs, because they are more spead out over multipule districts, due to the farmers crowding them out.

Matsumi

Matsumi

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2006

Wow, I guess I really had to go see for myself... I guess there really are bots. Kind of strange how they run in a square and bump into the walls until they are near the merchant.

Lady Lozza

Lady Lozza

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

Oz

Angel Sharks

Me/N

Yeah I just saw it too. FYI there are some in EU as well, just not as many.

Vlad Titanskin

Vlad Titanskin

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

W/

lyra_song

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

I farm Elona regularly. Meh...oh well...i got other places to farm.

NERF IT!

jackie

jackie

/retired

Join Date: Dec 2005

On the Beach

They are spreading like a disease

Canadian Bacon

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

Ontario, Canada

Kingdom of Tyria [KoT]

I think bot farming has started the evolution from annoyance to cancerous lump on the underbelly of society. It seems you can find them everywhere, and Anet really has to get moving on fixing this.

Gli

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Hahaha they look like demented ants, all moving in the same weird pattern.

dandahead

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2006

Wish you could body block them.

Exoudeous

Exoudeous

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

Honor Warriors

E/

they are all over the normal districts too

they better not mess elona farming up, im like reallllly close to getting fissure armor.

nimloth32

nimloth32

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Celestial Order

W/Mo

well, asian are famous for bots..>.>..it seems that they cannot farm the proper way...>.>..i have seen in many games..where there is farm, there is always bots..for asian..especially chinese..sigh..

.killjoy

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

Mo/Me

Just went there 10 mins ago i saw atleast 11 or the [love] guild guys with same first name on the char.
In droks. for the lead atm is [gold] guild farmin trolls lol
What i dont understand is everyone blames chinese and euros for having bots but why cant anyone get there hands on one?uh? i know many hacker forums for games nvr seen a bot that works well or doesnt have keylogger.

Matsumi

Matsumi

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2006

yep, there's about 5 other guilds that are running them too. I won't mention the names, but I've counted a total of about 6-7 guilds that seem to be running them.

Exoudeous

Exoudeous

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

Honor Warriors

E/

no, do mention the names, the more people that report them the better

Dr Strangelove

Dr Strangelove

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Dec 2005

Wasting away again in Margaritaville

[HOTR]

I say let them keep it, elona has incredibly low profit potential, maybe 200 gold per run at most, and anti-farm kicks in very quickly. Unless, of course, they're using as crop rotation from troll runs, in which case I say burn em all. The farmers really do seem to pick the worst places to farm. Me, I take the frost giants and tengu just past the trolls in the shiverpeaks, or just clear most of the map outside dunes of despair.

jackie

jackie

/retired

Join Date: Dec 2005

On the Beach

Luckily there is many spots in Tyria & Beyond that you have to be little bit more tactical while farming like FoW forest/cave.

Stockholm

Stockholm

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

Censored

Censored

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by .killjoy
What i dont understand is everyone blames chinese and euros for having bots but why cant anyone get there hands on one?uh? i know many hacker forums for games nvr seen a bot that works well or doesnt have keylogger.

They make them, anywhere on the internet today you have chines hackers trying to get in to computers. I sat one day and traced the IP's that pingd my computer and 84 % where traced to china. China has the highest % of hackers vs. users today so making a couple of bot's is no problem.
The bot's you download is full of keyloggers, yes they steal your account and resell it or trancefer your possesions to some1 else and delete your characters, and you can do nothing since you where trying to run a bot.
For the chines it's big bussines to run bot's and sell the gold on ebay, it brings real dollars in to the chines economy and gives ppl a job.

Exoudeous

Exoudeous

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

Honor Warriors

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr Strangelove
I say let them keep it, elona has incredibly low profit potential, maybe 200 gold per run at most, and anti-farm kicks in very quickly. Unless, of course, they're using as crop rotation from troll runs, in which case I say burn em all. The farmers really do seem to pick the worst places to farm. Me, I take the frost giants and tengu just past the trolls in the shiverpeaks, or just clear most of the map outside dunes of despair.
not really, yuo can make more then 200 gold per run after the antifarming code starts. otherwise its closer to 1k, and when I did it with my 55 ele, it took 3 minutes a run.

zaza

zaza

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

Tiger Tail

N/R

I went to Elona, and guess what i saw...




BOTS!!!!

Winterclaw

Winterclaw

Wark!!!

Join Date: May 2005

Florida

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by lyra_song
I farm Elona regularly. Meh...oh well...i got other places to farm.

NERF IT!

:`(

I don't have many other places to farm. Don't nerf it.

Ristaron

Ristaron

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2005

Canada, eh?

Legion Of Valhalla

E/

ANet... all you need is two or three people watching Elona for an hour to get at least a dozen names of bots.

Please, they're so obvious about it, it's frustrating that you're still not taking an incredibly aggressive stance against them... they're ruining our economy.


/apocalyptic rant

God Apprentice

God Apprentice

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

Mo/N

Go to Droks and from the portal face towards the merchant and watch the neverending stream of Mo/W run for the portal lol

Hockster

Hockster

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2005

Anet knows, and regularily runs sweeps. But it's a lot harder to prove it, and it must be proven for the accounts to be banned. Also, most of the devs are involved in Factions with the release less than a week away.

God Apprentice

God Apprentice

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

Mo/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by zaza
I went to Elona, and guess what i saw...




BOTS!!!!
I have not been to Elonas lately Ill take a look I 55 outside of Augury, will look next time im over in the desert.

Stupid bots ruin stuff D:

chessyang

chessyang

Not far from Elite

Join Date: Apr 2006

Florida

W/



hum.....

God Apprentice

God Apprentice

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

Mo/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by .killjoy
for the lead atm is [gold] guild farmin trolls lol
I seen that tag the other day My first thought was .......bot

Wessels

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2005

Boyz from the Dwarf

Mo/N

Quote:
I think bot farming has started the evolution from annoyance to cancerous lump on the underbelly of society. It seems you can find them everywhere, and Anet really has to get moving on fixing this.
I'm pretty much fed up with comments like these . Do you comprehend why these pro-farmers are there???? Did you all ever stop and think
why gold is being sold on the net ???

Do you have the slightest idea who these people ( yes: people ) are ??

i suggest you read this article :

http://www.iht.com/articles/2005/12/...ess/gaming.php

in full.

he only reason these people are there is that it is their job . They gather gold for those of us purchasing that gold from the sites . If there wasn't a demand to purchase gw-gold those folks wouldn't be there in the first place ( or at droknar , augury etc. ) . If you read that article you can also see what they themselves earn doing this : a measly US$250 /month .

Next question is : why do people want to purchase gold in the first place ??? I have yet to see anyone addressing this very basic question . Let's see :

- A-net introduced über-items ( greens ) and FoW armor to have some kind of "top -of- the game " rewards for dedicated players .

However ( and here's the reason gold is being sold ) : there is no accomplishment involved at all in acquiring these items . The only way to get your hands on FoW-armor or on some rare green is to farm those areas pretty much constantly ( no skill involved : going in- and - out all the time using same builds all the time ) to get "lucky" . This prevents people who play the game normally from ever getting their hands on those items .People who do normal questing, helping guildies etc. will never get FoW-armor because they don't farm constantly to get the materials or gold .

And this regardless of how much they have played , skillpoints,xp etc.

They are being "penalized" for playing normally . Those items are available only to those who:

- do nothing but farm ( the distinction between these people and bot-farmers is very hard to make , only difference is they don't get paid for it and they don't offer it on the net )
-are so disgusted in the end they decide to purchase gold of the net .

Check out deldrimor war camp local chat ( or TOA local chat ) , these places are filled with pro-farmers , and again: because they don't sell it for real cash on the net we accept it .Try getting someone to do an actual quest in those places !

If I ever see someone trying to "block" exits at droknar or any other place I'll pretty much tell him/her what I think of that in local chat .Those farmers are doing their job in ensuring a supply of glod because there is a demand for it .No demand = no need for pro-farmers .

So leave them alone .


The only way this can be remedied is to totally rethink the meaning of "accomplishment " .Would A-net care to explain to me what's so great ( in terms of skill , great playing etc. ) about going into UW/FoW time and time again , with exact same builds , not for doing quests but to harvest and farm ???

They have stated repeatedly they don't condone people soloing any area ( UW was prime example ) but at the same time they ensure the only way to amass materials or gold for FoW armor is to do exactly that.

Klmpee

Klmpee

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Florida USA :)

[Anti]

W/E

i find that funny :P