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RTSFirebat

The Humanoid Typhoon

Join Date: May 2005

UK

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

R/

24 Apr 2006 at 15:36 - 1

Hello.

A quick question for anyone who plays on the European server, mainly English speakers.

When I first starting playing Guild Wars I moved to the American servers within days of starting. It had nothing to do with the favour (Had no idea what it was at the time), it was due to the complete lack of English speakers to be found.

With the introduction of English districts some time ago, I know hear talk of many of the outlaying outposts being complete empty all the time.

My question is, is it time for me to move my character back to the Euro servers? I'm feed up of my massive ping? And with Factions coming up, I'm thinking its time to find a nice euro Guild to join.

So could anyone tell me is it really worth it? And how populated are the Euro servers these days?

Marodac Evilbane

Site Contributor

Join Date: Nov 2005

The Netherlands

Rite of Passage

E/Mo

24 Apr 2006 at 15:47 - 2

The major towns have up to 8 districts, the smaller outposts 1-2. People are aplenty, it's finding the ones you want in your team

The higher level missions can be a problem if you play in the afternoon (GMT'ish) (Aussies went to bed and a lot of Euro's went to school/work), but a guild can make up for that.

I still need to visit American servers to make a good comparison though.

Medion

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Netherlands

24 Apr 2006 at 16:39 - 3

First off, I have never been in American Districts, so I can't give you a really good comparison. What I can tell you:

It happens rarely people speak another language than English in the english districts, though there are some sentences spoken in other common languages who don't have a seperate server (such as Dutch). Not too many though in my opinion.

There are empty towns such as Seeker's Passage, but in mission towns it should be no problem finding an 8 man team, this is not to say those 8 people are the people you want to join with though

.

Chilly Ress

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Oct 2005

Kinetic Fusion [kF]

Me/

24 Apr 2006 at 17:20 - 4

again, first off, wrong section. Post questions in the QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS section. But, to answer your question, Euro server has less people in general, although they do seem to ALWAYS have favor

DarkGanni

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

Malta

[CuTe]

E/

24 Apr 2006 at 18:20 - 5

At Night Most Missions On Euro Servers Are Empty (thats around 3am GMT+1 in my case).

Count to Potato

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2006

Imagination Land

I Swear She Was Eighteen [Gwen]

W/

24 Apr 2006 at 18:27 - 6

It must be really annoying to have all the germans, french and all the other euros in the same district. Shound't they make it English Euro channel

DarkGanni

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

Malta

[CuTe]

E/

24 Apr 2006 at 18:37 - 7

What really annoys me is being in a group and everyone speaks different language and then i wonder "how the heck there could be teamwork". Maybe thats why i like American dists more than euro ones

Vermilion

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

NY

24 Apr 2006 at 20:34 - 8

I started in American Districts, and after a few wasted territory changes Im left in Europe with one switch left. I can't say much about the population; the times I am on mostly are not the most active for the majority of European players..
=lots and lots of empty dis's. Not a problem if you are European though...

As far as languages..well you certainly get more people talking in different lanuges..but not in any significant number from what Ive seen.

Witchblade

Polar Bear Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

24 Apr 2006 at 20:37 - 9

euro chans at night are totally empty, gl trying to complete a mission

gou

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2005

globally warmed england

the discarnate

24 Apr 2006 at 21:44 - 10

I have 2 accounts, one on each server.
The temple of the ages is a good example.
For weekdays:
On the usa server when europe has favour there is anything between 4 to 10 districts of people (most of them waiting for favour). At the very same time europe is lucky to fill 3 english districts and 2 each of german and french.
The majority of whom are 55's who speak no european languages *ahem*.
When USA has favour Euro districts empty out completely while i'm sure you have seen for yourself upwards for 16 districts on the USA server (all full).

Another amusing example is the OTT THK monk strike, usa server you couldnt make a team becuase of the "event", on the euro server you couldn't make a team because there wasn't enough people to fill one

The rest of tyria is similarly distributed population wise and it's not uncommon for somone in the group to say "warp us to the international district we might find some there" , whereas some might see this as a bad thing, it does mean groups are far more accepting on euro servers. Pug snobbery on the usa servers means that regardless of the larger player pool, you will find it just as hard to find a team for the most part on either server.

Chuba

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Finland

New Dragons [NDR]

24 Apr 2006 at 21:54 - 11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Count to Potato

It must be really annoying to have all the germans, french and all the other euros in the same district. Shound't they make it English Euro channel

The European Districts are actually divided into subdistricts according to the major languages, like English, German and French etc. But sometimes people from other districts come to the English ones as this division thins the population even more.

sno0zer

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2006

24 Apr 2006 at 22:32 - 12

The language thing only becomes a problem whenever you get someone who doesn't speak english n stays in the background. When you really need those guys they tend to NOT be there. For example, I was running one of the earlier mishs 3 man, one of the dudes doesn't say much then BAM when we're in trouble n spam the map while he's running somewhere else he just goes I'VE GOT A CHAR WITH 2MIL EXP! I'M NO NOOB!! and says that over and over and over again.
If you don't know how to communicate, just say that you suck at english and stay humble

Haggard

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

Urmston, Manchester, UK

Greener Pastures [DVDF]

W/Rt

24 Apr 2006 at 22:55 - 13

There are many europeans who speak perfect english. Being an englishman myself, 2 of my best friends in GW are a norwegian and a dutch guy. Both speak such it so well I would never guess it wasn't their mother tongue.

That said, you do get a lot of people who can't speak english particularly well - and then those who for all we know can speak it yet still attempt to do their trading with caps lock and '30K OK'.

RTSFirebat

The Humanoid Typhoon

Join Date: May 2005

UK

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

R/

25 Apr 2006 at 07:15 - 14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chilly Ress

again, first off, wrong section. Post questions in the QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS section. But, to answer your question, Euro server has less people in general, although they do seem to ALWAYS have favor

I posted it here since there are more people from different servers in this section. So first off don't tell me how to post ^_^ Check out the colour of name? Yep I been here for a while

Anyways thanks for your input.

nitrile

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

25 Apr 2006 at 08:10 - 15

I've played entirely on euro english servers (which indeed are divided from French, German etc) and not had many issues either with languages. Occasionally some dutch, polish, swedish or german (the French seem to keep to themselves) but it's just not generally an issue. Certainly less of an issue than english school dropouts typing in an illiterate text message fashion. I've never been tempted to move to american servers. As has already been said, I'll agree late night (1-6am) missions and outposts are all near deserted but most of the day, evenings and in ToA (usually 4-5 districts in the last week; only first two matter though) when with favour it's not a problem at all to find people, and I think sorrow's furnace is still staffed all hours, but I bored of that a while ago. I've little doubt factions districts will be packed 24/7 for longer than it'll take to play it through, there is no general dearth of players. But, I'd advise that if you've been on US servers since the beginning and know people that play on US servers you should probably wish to stay there, where you can play with them. Not to give an unreasonably bad impression but lag isn't that uncommon even to the "local" servers and if that's all that bothered you, don't expect great things.

Blitzy

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2006

Destiny Forsaken

Mo/W

25 Apr 2006 at 08:16 - 16

No issue at all, as long as you're not on at 3-6am GMT (there are still others around of course), then I find nowhere an issue. Most places are heaving (ie, multiple English districts).

Lexar

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Organised Spam

W/

25 Apr 2006 at 08:38 - 17

The major towns might have a few districts but the smaller outposts, think ice cave, or outposts in the maguuma jungle are pretty empty even during daytime. And just forget about a PUG if you play at night. Actually my impression is that usually there's more german districts than english ones, and more or less about an equal number of french districts as there are english ones. There's always only one spanish or italian district. Maybe 2 of them at the ToA. Yes, Droknar and Lion's Arch, Ascalon, they're not like that, but really how much time do you want to spend in trade spam anyway?

baz777

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

South East England

Leader: Lady Hairy Armpits S[mell]

E/

25 Apr 2006 at 10:52 - 18

Some areas, (particularly some of the missions), do appear to be less populated on the Euro server than when I started the game. All very time dependant.

As for language, I belong to a guild with members from right across Europe and all speak good English. You do find occasionally the odd, say polish speaking guild, advertising for members.

scarredangel

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Dec 2005

Apocalyptic Riders

N/

25 Apr 2006 at 11:08 - 19

i guess it all depends on what time you are playing most as to what districts will suit you best, personally i am on between 4pm and 12pm (roughly) most days and i have never had any problems in towns or mission towns, although , if you were playing between 1am and noon id say your probably best on the us servers

Lady Lozza

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

Oz

Angel Sharks

Me/N

25 Apr 2006 at 11:18 - 20

I'm on the EU servers and I've never really had any problems getting into a group for anything, as the Europeans seem to play at roughly the same time that I do.

Blaster The Warrior

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

W/Mo

25 Apr 2006 at 11:23 - 21

i play on europe and i think europeans are kinda noob sometimes in pve :S and i luv to play pve but pvp europeans are quiet good. but if you are european and you like to go uw and stuff you better go europe cause mostly favour on our times. and most of the people play at the same time.

Rayinzar

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2006

Europe

Blue Moon Shadow {CAT}

Me/R

25 Apr 2006 at 11:28 - 22

I'm currently at Ehlonas, and other than the first couple of Maguuma missions, it's been very easy to get into a group for most things, barring the really small quests. Often you can make a random quest group that bounces along from quest to quest, repeating some so that everyone can finish their minors

Pretty much everyone can speak English too, that or they say nothing at all. Ever.

Gonzo

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2006

Netherlands

Defenders of the Blackblade [DotB]

W/

25 Apr 2006 at 11:41 - 23

The only language problems I've had on the euro servers is being in a group and somewhere near the end of the mission somebody pops the "Where are you guys from?" and everybody anwsers "Holland" followed by a quick "Why are we speaking English?".

Snowman

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2005

Wales, UK

Devils Scorpions

W/E

25 Apr 2006 at 12:23 - 24

Very interesting subject you've brought up actually RTS, im glad you posted it here and not in Q&A..

(I think Q&A is mainly newbie questions)

I've been rushing through the game with a new Nec I made, I personally havnt found any problem with getting teams tbh!

As for the language, well, Im not sure.. some people are very quiet, I suspect they dont speak english so they just follow along... in any case I find it interesting to have a mix of people when completing the mission isnt that important.

The reason why I think this subject is interesting is because ALOT of people are coming back from American servers who are really EU, I think we have proved our worth with holding favor often..

I've always maintained that IF everyone in EU STAYED on the EU server, then it would never have been a problem in the first place... however I think that even Americans are coming over to the EU side now. and there have always been alot of Canadians.

After saying all this, I still do actually beleive that through the sheer population size of America there are definatly more districts and definatly more english speakers!

I have guildies and friends who I will be going through Factions with, and when they arnt available I really enjoy doing it with henchies (oo err).

It really depends on how much you depend on PUGS!.. but I would love to see more EU'ers back on their home server

wheel

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

Topeka, Kansas

Tyrian Fo Lyfe [word]

25 Apr 2006 at 13:42 - 25

On a related sidenote, if you're experiencing lag problems, run this tool (ftp://ftp.guildwars.com/diag/netinfotool_allos_gw.exe) once when you're experiencing lag and again when you're not experiencing lag (if you have times where you're not lagging). Attach the text files it outputs here (http://support.plaync.com/cgi-bin/pl...nduser/ask.php) and submit it. This way, Anet can further debug where the issues are occuring at.

RTSFirebat

The Humanoid Typhoon

Join Date: May 2005

UK

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

R/

25 Apr 2006 at 14:06 - 26

Quote:

Originally Posted by wheel

On a related sidenote, if you're experiencing lag problems, run this tool (ftp://ftp.guildwars.com/diag/netinfotool_allos_gw.exe) once when you're experiencing lag and again when you're not experiencing lag (if you have times where you're not lagging). Attach the text files it outputs here (http://support.plaync.com/cgi-bin/pl...nduser/ask.php) and submit it. This way, Anet can further debug where the issues are occuring at.

Thanks, but luckily lag is not a major issue 95% of the time, unless in massively busy towns, and that's just loading. Its odd even with a 1000 ping it never effects anything in GvG or PvP battles

kryshnysh

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

Valkyrie Einherjar

Mo/

25 Apr 2006 at 14:46 - 27

I've not been on the Euro servers. I just remember hearing at 8 pm GMT this past Sunday. 'We're getting organized in the Spanish districts [of THK] since they are empty' was the word from our allies before we all moved to International (25 people in International THK probably set a record

)

Its a few weeks outdated, but you could use search.

(no offense, I've just always wanted to provide a link for somebody who obviously knows more than me

)

The real reason I point it out is people seem to have even more information in those posts (4, 7, 13, and 21 in particular). It also has a decent bit of Halls tangents, but good with the bad...

I went back and checked out the reverse thread on search here and wow, that was a lot of districts in post 10. 23 districts in Ascalon!

Uzul

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Arctic Tundra

Pints N Quarts [PsQs]

25 Apr 2006 at 15:04 - 28

the latest lag-ventures made me think about "returning home" as well... and although i really dislike the attitude of a lot of people in the american districts: whenever i checked the connectoin with my 2nd account to the european server i saw the same crap, just in a smaller multi-lingual edition...
i am at home in the international districts anyway, but i am going to wait for factions-release: still optimistic that the lag-issue will be solved.

re: network-tool
several times a day, for 2 weeks in a row - updating my support-ticket every few days.

Nibor

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

The Gathering Of Tweakers [GOT]

Mo/Me

25 Apr 2006 at 15:13 - 29

Maybe it's just me, but it seems that there are more people in the outposts and towns than a couple of months ago. I only play in the english districts and play sometimes in PUGS with people from different nations.

Most of the time there isn't a language problem because everybody seems to speak english well enough. The situation described by Gonzo also happend to me a couple of times.

I haven't trouble finding a group for quests or missions ever, but maybe I'm just playing at the right times

Btw I'm Dutch too

Snowman

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2005

Wales, UK

Devils Scorpions

W/E

25 Apr 2006 at 15:14 - 30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Uzul

although i really dislike the attitude of a lot of people in the american districts: whenever i checked the connectoin with my 2nd account to the european server i saw the same crap,

Yea, I think this is always going to be a problem on any game, however, I usually find that the MORE people there are the more Scamming and Spamming goes on!

It think the secret is a good active guild and a strong friends list, no matter where you are.

I'll be your friend if your coming over to EU, im always doing stuff

makosi

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

"Pre-nerf" is incorrect. It's pre-buff.

Requirement Begins With R [notQ]

Me/

25 Apr 2006 at 15:17 - 31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blaster The Warrior

i play on europe and i think europeans are kinda noob sometimes in pve :S and i luv to play pve but pvp europeans are quiet good. but if you are european and you like to go uw and stuff you better go europe cause mostly favour on our times. and most of the people play at the same time.

That was a mega over generalization - considering that you have a w/mo too. By posting a comment like that you may aswell roll around in petrol and play with matches because you at a severe risk of being FLAMED.

Divinus Stella

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Wales

Steel Phoenix

25 Apr 2006 at 16:10 - 32

Quote:

Originally Posted by RTSFirebat

Hello.

A quick question for anyone who plays on the European server, mainly English speakers.

When I first starting playing Guild Wars I moved to the American servers within days of starting. It had nothing to do with the favour (Had no idea what it was at the time), it was due to the complete lack of English speakers to be found.

With the introduction of English districts some time ago, I know hear talk of many of the outlaying outposts being complete empty all the time.

My question is, is it time for me to move my character back to the Euro servers? I'm feed up of my massive ping? And with Factions coming up, I'm thinking its time to find a nice euro Guild to join.

So could anyone tell me is it really worth it? And how populated are the Euro servers these days?

Now Europe has favour all day a lot of the Euro players on American servers have moved back, also a fair amount of Americans have moved onto Euro servers aswel, theres always plenty of people around in large cities and some of the smaller outposts have groups of regular people, much like the "boat crew" in Lions Arch.
European players tend to be more friendly also, i tried American servers for a while and found it in general, unfriendly.