3 different play styles

dreamhunk

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I think should really seperate the playing styles. In factions they sort of done it,but not really.

Just like there is a place for pvp, battle Island. There should be a place for hard core rpg players. Then a place for pvpve players. Seeing that Anet mess up on fractions. They should really have a place just for hardcore rpg. This place would have mounts and everything that hardcore rpg players would want. unfected by any pvp what so ever.

quickmonty

quickmonty

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Factions not fractions.


Maybe some more detail on what you are looking for?

fallot

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dreamhunk, you're really one dimensional. Is there anything else you talk about except how Guild Wars should be more of an RPG ? The term is used quite freely when describing games, there are no real guidelines as to its usage. If GW is advertised as a "CORPG" it doesnt mean that it requires what is generally considered to be "RP" content to justify that title. I understand that this is slightly off topic, but all of your posts bring up this issue.

dreamhunk

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There has been alot cool ideas for rpg that was thrown out for exmaple. I say that there should be a place in the game where hardcore rpg players have what they want. For a style of play that they like.

Quote:
Originally Posted by fallot
dreamhunk, you're really one dimensional. Is there anything else you talk about except how Guild Wars should be more of an RPG ? The term is used quite freely when describing games, there are no real guidelines as to its usage. If GW is advertised as a "CORPG" it doesnt mean that it requires what is generally considered to be "RP" content to justify that title. I understand that this is slightly off topic, but all of your posts bring up this issue.
this has nothing do with my thread and is way off topic! That is your point of view. But to must hardcore rpg players they would have a different point of view. I think there should be a place for all the cool ideas that rpg players wanted, I could give list. They were thrown out because of pvp balance. There should be an aera just for people playing styles that is what I am talking about

Kakumei

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Quote:
Originally Posted by dreamhunk
this has nothing do with my thread and is way off topic! That is your point of view.
I'm pretty sure it's not a 'point of view' that in pretty much every post I've ever seen of yours you mention something about 'harcore rpger' [sic].

I honestly have no idea what you're talking about--granted, your poor spelling contributes to that, but even overlooking that, you're awfully vague.

quickmonty

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It sounds like what you are asking for is a different game. Maybe GW is not the game for you.

dreamhunk

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Quote:
Originally Posted by quickmonty
It sounds like what you are asking for is a different game. Maybe GW is not the game for you.
if this game is not for me then there will be less people supporting gw. less people buying this game. How meny more people are there like me out there? I guess we will just go soppurt wow I have alot $$$ to spend I am more that willing to pay for the game I want

fallot

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Well, if you feel my previous post was off-topic, I'll address your suggestion.

Quote:
Originally Posted by dreamhunk
I think should really seperate the playing styles. In factions they sort of done it,but not really.

Just like there is a place for pvp, battle Island. There should be a place for hard core rpg players. Then a place for pvpve players. Seeing that Anet mess up on fractions. They should really have a place just for hardcore rpg. This place would have mounts and everything that hardcore rpg players would want. unfected by any pvp what so ever.
It completely escapes me why this should be implemented. If a player is looking for a certain type of content, he should find a game that caters to his needs. Drastically changing the entire game and further polarizing its communities seems like a poor idea IMO. If someone wishes to roleplay, they may do it within their circle of like minded people or they could try a different game as I mentioned before.

You mention mounts in your post. That is a good illustration of what I have just stated. Its the kind of content that is not expected of Guild Wars nor does it belong with the playstyle that this game promotes. Quite frankly, if you want mounts play a different game.

kryshnysh

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I'm confused. There have been a lot of cool RPG/PvE ideas thrown about, so you want to create an area where PvPers can't PvE? Or where the skills and rules of the game differ?

I'll assume the latter, where the rules of the game are different (i..e that this isn't just a post that should go in that sticky above...http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=12840)

/not signed

Stretching the programming, balancing, etc. across even more dimensions would detract from the rest of the game. There are limits to how much ANet can do, and I'd rather they improve the game universally rather than cater to each independent interest.

This would heavily detract from crossing over from PvE to PvP. "Nope, sorry, that rule isn't the same here. Go back to your PvE you n00b." (I remember seeing this with people playing AD&D vs. D&D back in the '80s, and that wasn't even PvP vs. PvE).

So we'd now like for THK Spanish PvE and PvPvE, so both can have 4 people in them, neither wanting to move to the other because of the difference in rules (which they are unfamiliar with/dislike)?

I'm a pretty hard core PvEer, and I feel this would heavily detract from me even being able to PvP, interact with PvPers, and meet with people who don't want to PvP.

dreamhunk

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I am being attack because of somthing I beleave in but no matter i personly think anet think anet would have to go a certen rounte no matter what just to stay a float. The game will change, in long run because people will keep asking for what they want or they will just give up and move on.

fallot

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Quote:
Originally Posted by dreamhunk
I am being attack because of somthing I beleave in but no matter i personly think anet think anet would have to go a certen rounte no matter what just to stay a float. The game will change, in long run because people will keep asking for what they want or they will just give up and move on.
Unfortunately, it seems you consider every opinion that doesnt mirror your own to be an attack. You've presented a suggestion to the community. The community seems to disagree. I dont see where you are being attacked in any way.

Why would ANet have trouble "staying afloat" as you put it if the majority of people do not agree with your vision of the game ? This game is directed towards a certain demographic, it cant cater to the needs of every single gamer. Once again, I invite you to change games, simply because it would be better for you. Guild Wars seems to lack what you find important in a game, this is a logical step.

As to your doomsday scenario of a mass exodus of players from Guild Wars, I feel that is unfounded. At this point, everyone understands what Guild Wars offers as a game and the response to Factions seems to be generally positive as well (at this moment). ANet's vision for the game is clear and I dont think they will change its direction for a small amount of players.

dreamhunk

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Quote:
Originally Posted by fallot
Unfortunately, it seems you consider every opinion that doesnt mirror your own to be an attack. You've presented a suggestion to the community. The community seems to disagree. I dont see where you are being attacked in any way.

Why would ANet have trouble "staying afloat" as you put it if the majority of people do not agree with your vision of the game ? This game is directed towards a certain demographic, it cant cater to the needs of every single gamer. Once again, I invite you to change games, simply because it would be better for you. Guild Wars seems to lack what you find important in a game, this is a logical step.
the funny thing, is it not majority that ask the same thing over and over agin. I was called a noob for saying I idea i have asked. Can you count the number of threads on mounts for example. mounts is just one example even on different threads.

actionjack

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sign the Petition for RP district thread?

It could be a interesting idea, but really need to add on more details (how it could be done, what could go in there, what would be the different between each, what would the benefit, and possible negative effect of such spread... etc) before it can be judge.

BeowulfKamdas

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sounds like you want to play either World of Warcraft or Elder Scrolls Oblivion.

Mandy Memory

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Quote:
Originally Posted by BeowulfKamdas
sounds like you want to play either World of Warcraft or Elder Scrolls Oblivion.
Both great games, I recommend them if you want any of the ideas you asked for. GW is not a hardcore PVE game.

fallot

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Quote:
Originally Posted by actionjack

It could be a interesting idea, but really need to add on more details (how it could be done, what could go in there, what would be the different between each, what would the benefit, and possible negative effect of such spread... etc) before it can be judge.
dreamhunk, I'd like to see you address this post please. Some details on your proposal would go a long way towards cementing your credibility. Real concrete details, which should have been in the original post in the first place.

Evilsod

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I'm probably not the only 1 who is thinking but, what the hell are you talking about!?

It sounds like you want a battle isles for PvE, surely thats what Tyria is? Minus the low level arenas and everything is PvE content, what in gods name are you on about?

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He wants mounts. That's it, no more, no less.

Sorry, dreamhunk, Guild Wars isn't about mounts.

(It's the only certain thing that has been mentioned in any of the posts.)

Magnus_1

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Maybe its just me, but I always thought that hardcore roleplaying requires certain things from the people playing; one of the most important of these things is literacy, and the ability to communicate an idea. Perhaps you could work on learning to convey your opinions more effectively, dreamhunk. Maybe then we would know what you are talking about and be able to respond to you, instead of guessing at what you mean.

dreamhunk

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No, I am just not going to post more on my idea. I have already pull out CE for factions. I kinda like the tittle of noob. No point posting when I have been insulted. I am just going to get a different game.

I mean my ideas are not important!

fallot

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Quote:
Originally Posted by dreamhunk
No, I am just not going to post more on my idea. I have already pull out CE for factions. I kinda like the tittle of noob. No point posting when I have been insulted. I am just going to get a different game.

I mean my ideas are not important!
Either you are living in some other dimension, or you seriously misunderstand other people's posts. You haven't been insulted.

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Originally Posted by dreamhunk
I am just going to get a different game.
I believe that would be the decision that benefits you most. Good luck with any other games that you play.

Ken Dei

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This is nothing more then a shameless thread to improve post-count, he can't articulate, refuses to explain anything, and considers every arguement not in his favor to be an attack. If he wants to leave, good ridence, he disgraces his fellow RPers. I hope this thread gets locked soon.

Zui

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ken Dei
This is nothing more then a shameless thread to improve post-count, he can't articulate, refuses to explain anything, and considers every arguement not in his favor to be an attack. If he wants to leave, good ridence, he disgraces his fellow RPers. I hope this thread gets locked soon.
Amen.

To the OP: If you want people to listen to your ideas, first think of a good idea, that doesn't radicaly change the game and isin't impossible to impliment without doing so. Know what your idea is. Explain your idea so that others can understand it.

Most importantly, if you want mounts go play World of Warcraft. You get mounts there after you've spent a riduclous amount of time grinding to level 40 and level 60. The last thing I personaly want is for GW to become WoW. If such a thing happened I would quit GW as if I wanted to be playing WoW I'd be playing WoW, not GW. Please note this paragraph is the only such one in this entire thread(so far) that can be remotely construed as an "attack" on you.

BahamutKaiser

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RPG may have come from Role Playing games, but in reality just about any game is role playing as something your not, and RPG is the generic term for games which involve level and power gain.

I would like to see more diverse content too, but we already have hardcore PvE areas, Sorrows Furnace is one, Temple of Ages is another. The only thing battle island did is bring all the end game arenas into one location which will most likely be accessible in all expansions, aside from small additions.

False claims of absense to promote your interest in content you want in particular is immature, truthfully. And the fact that you would leave a good game just because some other players don't agree with your interests just proves Anet isn't loosing a dedicated customer.

I left FFXI because they were cheap on the CoP expansion and ignore/overlook continuous support for a more functional game, not because it didn't have stuff we wanted, but because the current combat system was weak and unbalanced. I'm leaving FFXI because they are about 2 years behind the improvements neccessary to address significant flaws, and it will likely never be completely functional. Guild Wars may be lacking a few additions, but it has a expansion model which allows for regular and vast improvement and addition, aside from the fact that they have already and continuously ensure that it is functionally balanced. Pretending to pass off GW just because they haven't provided an "addition" you would enjoy.... Yet, is simply weak on your part. The game works fine, and there is enjoyable content for PvP and PvE, your just being a greedy child.

Just because nobody here agrees with you, doesn't mean that a good activity you enjoy woln't be considered and added, and just because your going to leave, doesn't mean that Anet will bend over for an apparent minority of shallow behaving players.

dreamhunk

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See that is your views, GW was a rpg in in first place. I was more or less thinking about a place where these ideas were first thrown can still have a place. This not a debate over if gw is a rpg or not. I am saying there is alot of people who want these things. People are still going to keep asking for it. I am not too worry too as well because anet has to go that route any way. If they don't people would only get bored with the game. So in the long run anet is going to have to have strong rpg content if it wants to stay afloat. people can fight and kick as much as they want, but it alll comes down to what is going to make the game stay. As for chaning the game it is not. If anet doesnot change it will slowly fall in sales. Games like wow will only eat up the market. GW already has a bad rep among rpg players, so it is going in as a under dog.

I think that anet has side track alot from what they had promised this game would be. I really don't need to post on this topic because people will only keeping asking for what they want.

Lastly I am in no mood to fight debate on a topic. I can stand on my own to two feet and bring facts. I am known to have bring solid facts to the table. I just choose not because this has been debated 1000 times. Any time anything comes up about rpg. There are people fighting agisnt it. I would like to remind people this is an rpg game. Anet did say they will focus on what is fun about rpg.

also if you have a problem with my grammer then don't try reading it.

quickmonty

quickmonty

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I see GW being what it was from the start. Changes have been made to improve and balance the game, but it is still the same game as the day I purchased it.

Putting ideas here is fine. Whining and throwing fits just because someone doesn't agree with you will earn you no respect.

I will repeat what others have said, and I mean no disrepect to you by saying this. It sounds like GW is not the game for you.

dreamhunk

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Quote:
Originally Posted by quickmonty
I see GW being what it was from the start. Changes have been made to improve and balance the game, but it is still the same game as the day I purchased it.

Putting ideas here is fine. Whining and throwing fits just because someone doesn't agree with you will earn you no respect.

I will repeat what others have said, and I mean no disrepect to you by saying this. It sounds like GW is not the game for you.
one thing I am not whining. I am saying there should be 3 different styles in gw. Also when this game came on on beta. Anet did prominse to focus on rpg! agin that is your view.

why is there a petition about rpg? when anet promised they would have focused on what is fun about rpg. It says alot about the views about rpg players

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=12840

Kakumei

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Quote:
Originally Posted by dreamhunk
also if you have a problem with my grammer then don't try reading it.
Hahaha.

Hahahaha.

So if you're not prepared to make your posts legible, why should we bother to read them in the first place--and thereby give a shit what you have to say?

dreamhunk

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kakumei
Hahaha.

Hahahaha.

So if you're not prepared to make your posts legible, why should we bother to read them in the first place--and thereby give a shit what you have to say?
off topic bout but that doesnot bother me one bit.

Kakumei

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Quote:
Originally Posted by dreamhunk
off topic bout but that doesnot bother me one bit.
I quoted you. I don't know how much more on-topic you can get.

I'm not trying to bother you, I'm asking a legitimate question. Why should we listen to you if you don't care enough about your message to make it legible?

quickmonty

quickmonty

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Quote:
Originally Posted by dreamhunk
one thing I am not whining. I am saying there should be 3 different styles in gw. Also when this game came on on beta. Anet did prominse to focus on rpg! agin that is your view.

why is there a petition about rpg? when anet promised they would have focused on what is fun about rpg. It says alot about the views about rpg players

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=12840
That was a well thought out and well written pettition. Why didn't you just sign it and move on rather than start another thread?

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...d.php?t=116806
Alright people, as has become more obvious to me recently this forum needs a bit more organization. It's becoming very difficult and quite a hassle to keep ideas organized. Things such as repeat threads, threads with titles that have nothing to do with the suggestions, multiple suggestions in one thread---these sorts of things make it difficult for both moderators and the community to keep track of ideas that've been suggested here. Because of this, here are the new guidelines we'd like everyone to keep in mind and follow.

Always use the search button before posting a new thread to see if your ideas been suggested before.Always check the stickied Index of Ideas to see if your idea can be found in there.
If your idea is a slight change of another suggestion that's already been suggested, don't post a new thread on it, post it in the existing thread and continue the discussion over the general idea.
Make sure your thread titles list your idea. Don't post threads with vague titles like "Greatest Suggestion Yet" when only in your post do you discuss your suggestion. Make sure your thread title states your idea, to keep things organized and less confusing.
Do not post "A Few Ideas" threads. If you have more than one idea ---first double check with the search button and the index thread to make sure they're fresh suggestions, and create a seperate thread for each one with a relevant title.
If you don't feel like creating a seperate thread for each suggestion you have, post all of them in the Index of Ideas thread stickied at the top of the forum.
Of course, keep this to suggestions only. Not builds, not rants or PvP vs PvE discussions, etc. This is the suggestions forum.
Use the Search Button and check the Index thread to make sure you're not repeating an idea.
Do it again.

There they are, stick to them so this forum can be kept as organized and straight forward as possible. Not only to make it easier for us as a community, but also easier for devs to read and respond.

dreamhunk

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Quote:
Originally Posted by quickmonty
That was a well thought out and well written pettition. Why didn't you just sign it and move on rather than start another thread?

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...d.php?t=116806
Alright people, as has become more obvious to me recently this forum needs a bit more organization. It's becoming very difficult and quite a hassle to keep ideas organized. Things such as repeat threads, threads with titles that have nothing to do with the suggestions, multiple suggestions in one thread---these sorts of things make it difficult for both moderators and the community to keep track of ideas that've been suggested here. Because of this, here are the new guidelines we'd like everyone to keep in mind and follow.

Always use the search button before posting a new thread to see if your ideas been suggested before.Always check the stickied Index of Ideas to see if your idea can be found in there.
If your idea is a slight change of another suggestion that's already been suggested, don't post a new thread on it, post it in the existing thread and continue the discussion over the general idea.
Make sure your thread titles list your idea. Don't post threads with vague titles like "Greatest Suggestion Yet" when only in your post do you discuss your suggestion. Make sure your thread title states your idea, to keep things organized and less confusing.
Do not post "A Few Ideas" threads. If you have more than one idea ---first double check with the search button and the index thread to make sure they're fresh suggestions, and create a seperate thread for each one with a relevant title.
If you don't feel like creating a seperate thread for each suggestion you have, post all of them in the Index of Ideas thread stickied at the top of the forum.
Of course, keep this to suggestions only. Not builds, not rants or PvP vs PvE discussions, etc. This is the suggestions forum.
Use the Search Button and check the Index thread to make sure you're not repeating an idea.
Do it again.

There they are, stick to them so this forum can be kept as organized and straight forward as possible. Not only to make it easier for us as a community, but also easier for devs to read and respond.
off topic but I starting nothing! i would say your one of the people who was off topic. No offense I am was talking about a place where hardcore rpg players can have what they want. A place where the ideas where that were throwen out can be, with out pvp affecting it. have it so it is locked off from the other gaming aeras. I am talking about having the 3 different gaming styles in the game.

quickmonty

quickmonty

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Quote:
Originally Posted by dreamhunk
off topic but I starting nothing! i would say your one of the people who was off topic. No offense I am was talking about a place where hardcore rpg players can have what they want. A place where the ideas where that were throwen out can be, with out pvp affecting it.
Just responding to your post. And informing you as to the guidelines for this forum.

dreamhunk

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Quote:
Originally Posted by quickmonty
Just responding to your post. And informing you as to the guidelines for this forum.
ok cool but no offense I but I always stay on topic. My ideas are alot more different than other peoples so I can't see it being here in the fourms! it should be noted to other people who were off topic!

the rules should also say no name calling or putting down too as well I have freedom of speech!

i think you should reread who stated what!

Kakumei

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Quote:
Originally Posted by dreamhunk
ok cool but no offense I but I always stay on topic. My ideas are alot more different than other peoples so I can't see it being here in the fourms! it should be noted to other people who were off topic!

the rules should also say no name calling or putting down too as well I have freedom of speech!

i think you should reread who stated what!
Free speech doesn't apply on a privately owned forum.

dreamhunk

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kakumei
Free speech doesn't apply on a privately owned forum.
your off topic on my thread!

Kakumei

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Quote:
Originally Posted by dreamhunk
your off topic on my thread!
You're so dumb it hurts.

dreamhunk

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kakumei
You're so dumb it hurts.
what does that have to do with the 3 gaming styles!

fallot

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kakumei
You're so dumb it hurts.
He is right though. This is off-topic.

Quote:
Originally Posted by dreamhunk
I can stand on my own to two feet and bring facts. I am known to have bring solid facts to the table. I just choose not because this has been debated 1000 times.
Could you post some of these facts in this thread ? I've read a lot of your posts on a different forum, but they dont contain facts. They do contain a lot of speculation, most of which I believe is unfounded. However, if there is anything of value I may have missed, I'd like to see your points brought forth in this thread.

Huntmaster

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Quote:
Originally Posted by dreamhunk
Anet did prominse to focus on rpg!
Please, give me solid evidence that Anet has done nothing to focus on the rpg aspect of the game. I mean, SF doesn't count right? Neither does Tombs? Or how about that huge map called "Cantha?" Thats all PvP?