Warning to Ventrilo Users

Hello, this is a warning for all guilds who use public vent servers during GvG. Our guild, We Step On Puppies (rank 25 at the time) went up against edit. At 6:54, we had them heavily DPed, and were just about to push up, when we heard our leader say. "What the heck? I can't move!" Thinking it was just another server lag spike, we sit for a couple minutes waiting for the lag to pass. Then all I could hear was 'PAGE FROM *garbled* *more garble*'

We were being cheated. We were being attacked by bots spamming us with pages, and even though our leader had them off so he couldnt hear them, it still registered them and made him lag. We frantically called for vent admin via comments for assistance, and they booted the spammers who then changed their IP and re-logged.

By this time, when I put Guild Wars back up, edit had re-taken the flag stand and had our leader overextended, and he could not move. Our monks were now being paged, valiantly trying to keep our leader alive. I was also suffering a great amount of lag, and could not hear a single spike because I did not have pages turned off, nor had the time to do so. edit was able to deal an incredible blow to our Morale, and get a morale boost (I was the flag runner and was lagging so bad I couldn't even get back to the flag to pick it up), and pushed back to our keep, taking out some body guards before we were able to repel them. The vent admin had finnally seemed to have stopped the problem temporarily. However, it was now too late to take the victory.

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To give an idea on the amount of pages we recieved, the vent admin could not even open the log of the pages. It crashed the vent admin's computer.

I think its sad that someone would stoop to this level to interfere with a game.

Admin Edit: We do not allow the posting of names.

PuP has since moved to a private ventrilo server.

hmmmmmm u on dial up or something cause i admin for a vent server off of my own comp gets pages all the time and never lagged that bad lol i have dsl and a walmart special comp lol. and 2 if ur leader had his pages turned off he wouldn t even receive the send so anyone that had it turned off wouldn t had laged the same as e1 else would have if that is the reason.

pay a private channel?

No, we don't lag when we get 1 page. We get lagged when we get one hundred thousand of them in 5 seconds.

People can page you from any channel, not just private ones. We were sponsored by the company, we had the best you could get.

would be an awful trend. if it ever becomes one.

are you guys investigating it more, who those ppl were?

(identify ip or something, send it to gw support. maybe it can or is tied to someone ingame...)

pitty... TS however has no such prob, so there you go... use whatever you feel comfortable with I guess...

EDIT: name removed

If it was them and it was from an outside source they could just deny it and you have no proof.

This is very unfortunate to hear about. Not exactly surpised considering this is a competative game. Anything competative will have cheaters.

that's pretty sad...if you see it once we'll see it again until something is done about it

Wow, I was watching this match on observer, it kinda makes sense now.

Sucks that that guild would stoop to such a level, but it sounds like a certain member in their guild.

Sorry to hear that. =/

This isn't really a VT or TS problem. This is a security problem. All the more reason to make these types of servers private.

If you have an open server, then anyone can log in and cause trouble. SO to solve this, MAKE your guildmates create an account on the VT or TS server and have the Admin of the server approve all accounts. Those that are not approved cannot log on.

Now if you can't make a Vent server private, then this would really be a Vent only problem.

One of the reasons why i think arenanet should add voice comm ingame

If they do add it expect to pay for it.

While your idea of reporting the IP is a good one it won't work. People who tend to do these sort of things generally have the good sense to use anonymous proxies. The fact that they changed IP's(not feasible unless you are on a dynamic IP network such as a dial up connection) indicates that they were swapping and bouncing between proxy servers. Odds are the IP they used to blast them wasn't even the one that they were playing from. It does suck but doesn't Vent have some sort of setting to limit the number of pages you recieve in a certain amount of time? I don't condone cheating but I have to admit this is a rather creative way to exploit the bandwidth intensive voice chat programs to win the matches.

Not feasible if they want to keep it free. Voice com is bandwidth intensive and bandwidth costs money. Good idea but I don't see it happening.

"I don't condone cheating" lmao

maybe u didn t understand me it s unfortunate if this in fact did happen but if u have pages turned off no matter the amount of pages sent to u will make u lag AT ALL. it is one of the reasons for having ur paging turned off. so i don t think the ppl were laging that had it off because of that. r they in the same community vent as u that they would know. and last u can host off ur own comp if it really becomes a problem and it costs u nothing.

Hey I don't... What's so funny?

Theres always the chance it might not have been the guild you were playing - having a '9th member' of your GvG team to electronically knockout the opposing side sounds a little extreme. That's what mesmers are for

i know who you guys were playing and it sounds like something they would do; anyways GL in the season.

If vent is configured so that PM blocking is Client side, then the client is instructed to ignore all messages it recieves, but they are *still* recieved, thus can *still* cause lagging.

This is why you do not use public Vent servers for GvG. Sure, it may have been underhanded but it's almost impossible to prove that the guild themselves did it even if they really did.